If the South had won the war

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

There are 16 changes that would be in place if the South had won the Civil War:

1. Every thing is admissible in court, no exclusions or exceptions. It is the jury's job to figure it out.

2. One person's rights do not trump "We the People."

3. The Ten Commandments would still be hanging in the court houses.

4. Kids would say, "Yes, sir" and "Yes, m'am."

5. There would be a "None of the above" choice on election ballots.

6. The Washington capital would be relocated on the Mississippi so it would be flushed every now and then.

7. There would be more Tent City prisons. If tents are good enough for troops defending our country, tents are good enough for prisoners.

8. Death row inmates would have an expiration date of less than six months.

9. Prayers and pledges of allegiance would still be in schools.

10. The GPS anklet would be a 50 pound ball and chain.

11. The Wall Street dudes who caused the money problem would be on a pea farm earning payback.

12. The food above the Mason Dixon line would taste better.

13. It would be OK for police to staple pants in place.

14. States would only be allowed one senator.

15. The Southern Gentleman Law would prevail; opening doors, removing hats inside and women would have an hour-glass figure.

16. John Wayne would have been one of our presidents.

http://www.thetowntalk.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/201004130245/OPINION/4130315

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

The only thing you could say for sure is things would be different. You pull at a single thread, and the entire tapestry will begin to unravel. One definite change we could speculate on is that there would have been no Woodrow Wilson, the Progressive Racist from the South, that put us firmly on the disastrous course we have been on for the last 90 years.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Interesting thread.

On a global scale:

World war 1 would have likely gone into the 1920's and there may not have been a second world war.

The Soviet Union might still exist.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Interesting thread.

On a global scale:

World war 1 would have likely gone into the 1920's and there may not have been a second world war.

The Soviet Union might still exist.

Mexico would be a lot bigger too.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Mexico would be a lot bigger too.

Interesting. Why do you say that? California was already a state in 1850, as was Texas in 1845. The Gasden Purchase was made in 1854. That pretty much put the Continental US at it's current borders, prior to the Civil War.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Interesting:

Jefferson Finis Davis (June 3, 1808 – December 6, 1889) was an American military officer, statesman and leader of the Confederacy during the American Civil War, serving as the president of the Confederate States of America for its entire history, 1861 to 1865.

A West Point graduate, Davis fought in the Mexican-American War as a colonel of a volunteer regiment, and was the United States secretary of war under Pres. Franklin Pierce. Both before and after his time in the Pierce Administration, he served as a U.S. senator representing the State of Mississippi. As a senator he argued against secession, but believed each state was sovereign and had an unquestionable right to secede from the Union.

Davis resigned from the Senate in January 1861[1] after receiving word that Mississippi had seceded from the Union. The following month, he was provisionally appointed president of the Confederate States of America and was elected to a six-year term that November. During his presidency, Davis was not able to find a strategy to defeat the more populous and industrially-developed Union, even though the South only lost roughly one soldier for every two Union soldiers on the battlefield.

After Davis was captured May 10, 1865, he was charged with treason, though not tried, and stripped of his eligibility to run for public office. This limitation was posthumously removed by order of Congress and President Jimmy Carter in 1978, 89 years after his death. While not disgraced, he was displaced in Southern affection after the war by its leading general, Robert E. Lee.

Secretary of war

Pierce won the election and in 1853 made Davis his secretary of war.[10] In this capacity, Davis gave Congress four annual reports (in December of each year), as well as an elaborate one (submitted on February 22, 1855) on various routes for the proposed transcontinental railroad, and promoted the Gadsden Purchase of today's southern Arizona from Mexico. The Pierce Administration ended in 1857. The president lost the Democratic nomination, which went instead to James Buchanan. Davis's term was to end with Pierce's, so he ran successfully for the senate, and re-entered it on March 4, 1857.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Davis

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[Saddle Bronc 124]

There are 16 changes that would be in place if the South had won the Civil War:

1. Every thing is admissible in court, no exclusions or exceptions. It is the jury's job to figure it out.

2. One person's rights do not trump "We the People."

3. The Ten Commandments would still be hanging in the court houses.

4. Kids would say, "Yes, sir" and "Yes, m'am."

5. There would be a "None of the above" choice on election ballots.

6. The Washington capital would be relocated on the Mississippi so it would be flushed every now and then.

7. There would be more Tent City prisons. If tents are good enough for troops defending our country, tents are good enough for prisoners.

8. Death row inmates would have an expiration date of less than six months.

9. Prayers and pledges of allegiance would still be in schools.

10. The GPS anklet would be a 50 pound ball and chain.

11. The Wall Street dudes who caused the money problem would be on a pea farm earning payback.

12. The food above the Mason Dixon line would taste better.

13. It would be OK for police to staple pants in place.

14. States would only be allowed one senator.

15. The Southern Gentleman Law would prevail; opening doors, removing hats inside and women would have an hour-glass figure.

16. John Wayne would have been one of our presidents.

http://www.thetowntalk.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/201004130245/OPINION/4130315

#5, #6, #11 and #14 are good things to have.

#12 is false--since all nice food in US is cooked by later-immigrant communities, such as desis (which last-I-checked, Southerners ARE NOT).

#16 is false, due to JW's being Iowa-born grandson of a UNION veteran.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Interesting. Why do you say that? California was already a state in 1850, as was Texas in 1845. The Gasden Purchase was made in 1854. That pretty much put the Continental US at it's current borders, prior to the Civil War.

With the crumbling of the Union, those states that were fought for would be vulnerable to Mexico's ambitions.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

#5, #6, #11 and #14 are good things to have.

#12 is false--since all nice food in US is cooked by later-immigrant communities, such as desis (which last-I-checked, Southerners ARE NOT).

#16 is false, due to JW's being Iowa-born grandson of a UNION veteran.

Having a capital city that floods often is good? Why?

As for food, southern food is freakin' awesome. And yes, Indian and Thai and Middle Eastern and Ethiopian food rocks as well!

And you know what, nothing - I repeat, nothing - beats a good ol' fashioned burger.

When it comes to food, thou shalt not discriminate. Thou shalt stfu and eat.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Having a capital city that floods often is good? Why?

As for food, southern food is freakin' awesome. And yes, Indian and Thai and Middle Eastern and Ethiopian food rocks as well!

And you know what, nothing - I repeat, nothing - beats a good ol' fashioned burger.

When it comes to food, thou shalt not discriminate. Thou shalt stfu and eat.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

With the crumbling of the Union, those states that were fought for would be vulnerable to Mexico's ambitions.

The last time I checked Texas fought for its own independance from Mexico and won. Pretty sure they could have done it again.

I can't say what the ambitions would have been for California, Arizona, and New Mexico though. I'd be willing to bet they'd handle their own as well, especially if they're an ally with Texas and surrounding states.

[Kevin and 10]

NASCAR would be America's past time, not baseball.

[Nina~ 431]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3KQgulBzh0&feature=related

[scandal 951]

There was a whole feature film devoted to this very question a few years ago, by Spike Lee called CSA. It had moments of brilliance, but on the whole I didn't think it was very good. Some of the commercial segments are very funny, however.

http://www.csathemovie.com/

[ready4ONE 5,400]

The only thing you could say for sure is things would be different. You pull at a single thread, and the entire tapestry will begin to unravel. One definite change we could speculate on is that there would have been no Woodrow Wilson, the Progressive Racist from the South, that put us firmly on the disastrous course we have been on for the last 90 years.

Your preconceived bias' are showing. It is virtually impossible to know what the USA would be like had the South won. At what cost would the win have come? How much of the then separate Nations would have been able to protect themselves from outsiders seeking to attack?

Woodrow Wilson may well have still existed, and became either the head of the South, or more likely [since this is all PURE speculation] the two sides would have joined once again at some point after the conflict was over.

Since there has been a great deal of very positive, very productive, and wonderful things that have occurred in the last 90 years, your 'disastrous course' seems a bit in need of fleshing out or at least, as I have briefly stated, correction.