Cant we just use DS-3025 as Vaccination Supplement

[kaydee457 13]

just because some ppl get away with it, doesn't mean you definitely will. what officers let slide is up to them... total crapshoot.

i wouldn't risk an RFE for something like that. a doctor can fill one out in minutes and if you are lucky you can get it done cheaply.

mine was $35... if i'd skipped it and got an RFE, the days or weeks lost for the delay would far surpass a few measly bucks.

but, its totally up to you if you feel like taking that chance. you might be one of the lucky ones. *shrugs*

good luck

The I-693A is a supplemental to your vaccinations. It is only required for vaccinations that were not given in-country due to unavailability or in some cases it's required for booster shots.

I/we submitted none because my wife had all the required vaccinations at her medical in Ethiopia.

[motu 5]

It all depends on your situation - I thought about it - My wife is learning English and won't know enough to work for another year or so - so what if we take a chance and at the worst it would mean a delay of couple of months because of the RFE. It didn't matter to us and we didn't do the I693a, we just sent in the vaccination worksheet from the medical in her home country (Colombia.) We were not asked about the I693 at all.

In my opinion, if you can take a delay of a few months (if they RFE you) - then you can take a chance. It is definitely not a requirement no matter what several posters here believe.

Good Luck

Edited August 4, 2006 by motu

[~Jackie~ 30]

We had that decision to make when it came time to AOS on a K3. We went to the interview without a new medical and it was not asked for. The medical done in the beneficiaries country, is valid for one year is what we were told.

Jackie

[Leasel7 0]

The I-693A is a supplemental to your vaccinations. It is only required for vaccinations that were not given in-country due to unavailability or in some cases it's required for booster shots.

I/we submitted none because my wife had all the required vaccinations at her medical in Ethiopia.

Well first of all, I-693A is a supplement to the medical examination form used by civil surgeons here in the US. I don't believe it is considered a supplement to DS-3025; there are some immigrants going through adjustment of status who did not have a medical examination in their native countries, so they have to have the medical done here in the US, hence the I-693 and I-693A.

According to the USCIS National Benefits Center -- which is where I-485's go for processing -- even though I-693 is not required as part of the I-485 submission for K visa applicants who had a medical examination within the past year, the I-693A is still required:

Are Medical Examinations (Form I-693) and Affidavits of Support (Form I-864) required at the time of filing the I-485 package?

Yes, the Affidavit of Support (if required) and complete Medical Examination should be filed with the I-485 package. The NBC will send a Request for Evidence if either of these Forms is not included with the initial I-485 filing, which will delay the processing of your case. The I-864 and I-693 Forms should include any supporting evidence requested by the instructions.

All applicants required to submit Form I-693 Medical Examination are also required to submit a Supplemental Form to I-693 (immunization record). Applicants who last entered the United States as a K nonimmigrant (I-94 Arrival/Departure Record and/or non-immigrant visa page in passport shows K-1, K-2, K-3, or K-4 as admission code) are only required to submit the Supplemental Form to I-693 (immunization record) with Form I-485. K nonimmigrants are not required to submit Form I-693 (medical examination).

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/fieldoffices...faq.htm#medical

No mention of the "you can use DS-3025 if all your vaccinations are complete" concept here....

[anguang 0]

for me, I just sent my DS-3025 form to INS, and got approved without interview.

[kaydee457 13]

The I-693A is a supplemental to your vaccinations. It is only required for vaccinations that were not given in-country due to unavailability or in some cases it's required for booster shots.

I/we submitted none because my wife had all the required vaccinations at her medical in Ethiopia.

Well first of all, I-693A is a supplement to the medical examination form used by civil surgeons here in the US. I don't believe it is considered a supplement to DS-3025; there are some immigrants going through adjustment of status who did not have a medical examination in their native countries, so they have to have the medical done here in the US, hence the I-693 and I-693A.

According to the USCIS National Benefits Center -- which is where I-485's go for processing -- even though I-693 is not required as part of the I-485 submission for K visa applicants who had a medical examination within the past year, the I-693A is still required:

Are Medical Examinations (Form I-693) and Affidavits of Support (Form I-864) required at the time of filing the I-485 package?

Yes, the Affidavit of Support (if required) and complete Medical Examination should be filed with the I-485 package. The NBC will send a Request for Evidence if either of these Forms is not included with the initial I-485 filing, which will delay the processing of your case. The I-864 and I-693 Forms should include any supporting evidence requested by the instructions.

All applicants required to submit Form I-693 Medical Examination are also required to submit a Supplemental Form to I-693 (immunization record). Applicants who last entered the United States as a K nonimmigrant (I-94 Arrival/Departure Record and/or non-immigrant visa page in passport shows K-1, K-2, K-3, or K-4 as admission code) are only required to submit the Supplemental Form to I-693 (immunization record) with Form I-485. K nonimmigrants are not required to submit Form I-693 (medical examination).

http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/fieldoffices...faq.htm#medical

No mention of the "you can use DS-3025 if all your vaccinations are complete" concept here....

Well, there are very, very few people that fall into that category. The fact is that the supplemental is what it says; it's a supplemental to the medical and vaccinations given in country.

Some of you people make this process so difficult!

[rebeccajo 14]

Lets see....USCIS says.

... Applicants who last entered the United States as a K nonimmigrant (I-94 Arrival/Departure Record and/or non-immigrant visa page in passport shows K-1, K-2, K-3, or K-4 as admission code) are only required to submit the Supplemental Form to I-693 (immunization record) with Form I-485. K nonimmigrants are not required to submit Form I-693 (medical examination).

kaydee457 says....

Well, there are very, very few people that fall into that category......

Now Im thinking about kaydee's comment.....

There are? I've been sitting here staring at this screen for 10 minutes and I think it pretty much means just exactly as highlighted.

Edited August 5, 2006 by rebeccajo

[Debby 0]

just because some ppl get away with it, doesn't mean you definitely will. what officers let slide is up to them... total crapshoot.

i wouldn't risk an RFE for something like that. a doctor can fill one out in minutes and if you are lucky you can get it done cheaply.

mine was $35... if i'd skipped it and got an RFE, the days or weeks lost for the delay would far surpass a few measly bucks.

but, its totally up to you if you feel like taking that chance. you might be one of the lucky ones. *shrugs*

good luck

The I-693A is a supplemental to your vaccinations. It is only required for vaccinations that were not given in-country due to unavailability or in some cases it's required for booster shots.

I/we submitted none because my wife had all the required vaccinations at her medical in Ethiopia.

SOME People are just plain LUCKY I guess. I had all my immunisations done in Australia as well prior to arriving here on a K-3 visa. On AUGUST 1st at our interview we were given an RFE for an I-693A so no approval at the interview no RFE prior to the interview. I guess it just depends on the actual person conducting your interview and even with my husband and myself stating and showing that all immunisations were current and given and asking WHY that was not acceptable we were sent away with our RFE. Maybe it would of gone better for me if I had of come from Ethiopia rather than Australia.

Debby

[kaydee457 13]

This is an ongoing argument. Luck has nothing to do with this process. The fact is that the form is a supplemental to be used to add, or append to the original vaccination record of the applicant.

The instructions are ambiguous in this regard but so are they in many other instances involving other topics.

The fact that I, and others did not submit a supplemental has nothing to do with "luck" but rather that we were in compliance having had all the required vaccinations and not requiring any supplemental follow ups.

Simple....Why make this so difficult?

From Merriam Webster

Main Entry: 1sup·ple·ment

Pronunciation: 's&-pl&-m&nt

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English, from Latin supplementum, from supplEre to fill up, complete -- more at SUPPLY

1 a : something that completes or makes an addition b : DIETARY SUPPLEMENT

2 : a part added to or issued as a continuation of a book or periodical to correct errors or make additions

Edited August 5, 2006 by kaydee457

[Leasel7 0]

This is an ongoing argument. Luck has nothing to do with this process. The fact is that the form is a supplemental to be used to add, or append to the original vaccination record of the applicant.

Where do you get that I-693A is supplemental to the "original vaccination record of the applicant"? Have you actually looked at the form? It is labeled "SUPPLEMENTAL FORM TO I-693" and "Adjustment of Status Applicant's Documentation of Immunization". This form is intended to be used for all AOS applicants, not just the K visa applicants who have already had a medical examination prior to entering the country, so in many cases I-693A is the only record of vaccinations that exists for an AOS applicant so far as USCIS is concerned. It looks very much like the vaccination record my husband got at his K-1 medical examination and is supposed to record all the required immunizations, not just the ones obtained since arriving in the country.

The instructions are ambiguous in this regard but so are they in many other instances involving other topics.

They don't seem ambiguous to me; everything I've read says that a K visa applicant for AOS must submit I-693A. What is ambiguous is how the instructions are enforced -- some get away with using DS-3025, others get RFEs.

The fact that I, and others did not submit a supplemental has nothing to do with "luck" but rather that we were in compliance having had all the required vaccinations and not requiring any supplemental follow ups.

So those who get RFEs for not sending I-693A are just unlucky? Please show me which instruction defines I-693A as a supplement to another vaccination record that does not have to be submitted with an AOS application if all vaccinations are complete, despite guidance provided by the National Benefits Center on the USCIS website.

[Debby 0]

This is an ongoing argument. Luck has nothing to do with this process. The fact is that the form is a supplemental to be used to add, or append to the original vaccination record of the applicant.

The instructions are ambiguous in this regard but so are they in many other instances involving other topics.

The fact that I, and others did not submit a supplemental has nothing to do with "luck" but rather that we were in compliance having had all the required vaccinations and not requiring any supplemental follow ups.

Simple....Why make this so difficult?

From Merriam Webster

Main Entry: 1sup·ple·ment

Pronunciation: 's&-pl&-m&nt

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English, from Latin supplementum, from supplEre to fill up, complete -- more at SUPPLY

1 a : something that completes or makes an addition b : DIETARY SUPPLEMENT

2 : a part added to or issued as a continuation of a book or periodical to correct errors or make additions

So I take it that you and your wife submitted an I-693A form then. That is the only thing that I was missing as I was in COMPLIANCE having also HAD ALL THE REQUIRED VACCINATIONS and not requiring any supplemental follow ups.

I am glad that you find this process so simple and others of us have a problem at the interview stage after waiting years to get there.

I really can't understand anyone stating that this is SIMPLE.

And since it is MY INTERVIEW I am speaking of and what happened with ME your immigration facts don't apply to ME nor it seems to the IMMIGRATION INTERVIEWER in MY case.

Thanks,

Debby

[Debby 0]

Oh so sorry kaydee457 I have just looked at your timeline and discovered you actually didn't have an interview I can understand now how you could know what my interview officer would say/do.

Debby

[rebeccajo 14]

From Merriam Webster

Main Entry: 1sup·ple·ment

Pronunciation: 's&-pl&-m&nt

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English, from Latin supplementum, from supplEre to fill up, complete -- more at SUPPLY

1 a : something that completes or makes an addition b : DIETARY SUPPLEMENT

2 : a part added to or issued as a continuation of a book or periodical to correct errors or make additions

ROFLMAO.

I want to be in the room when an AOS petitioner whips out a dictionary and begins to argue with their AOS adjudicator.

This is an ongoing argument.

Yes it is. With you. You do this community no service by constantly dispensing this advice.

[aussie angel 0]

i just sent in a copy of vac doc from my original. in my cover letter i put copy, orginal sent with k1 envelope at customs and i was approved about 2 months ago with out interview

[Kathryn41 3,205]

I did not submit the vaccination supplement with my AOS application. I did include the vaccination worksheet copy that I received at my K-1 medical. I have had either the vaccination or the actual illness so required no vaccinations. on the form my panel physician had written "vaccinations complete - may qualify for waiver". After I started reading about people getting RFEs for the supplement, I took my information to one of the approved physicians and got the supplement completed, intending to bring it with me to the interview. Of course, shortly after that I was approved without an interview - and without an RFE. I assumed they had granted 'the waiver' - and I still have the supplement in my files.