Carter Downplays Castro Succession Rumors

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Jimmy Carter...

Now, as a Christian, how can you be regard a devout Christian in such a disrepectful way???

who is a devout Christian?? Jimmy C??? If he's a devout Christian, I'm the Pope.

Edited August 4, 2006 by VivaMexico

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a southern baptist and a deacon

[VivaMexico 0]

a southern baptist and a deacon

like i said...

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a southern baptist and a deacon

like i said...

[incanada1234 0]

Jimmy Carter...

Now, as a Christian, how can you be regard a devout Christian in such a disrepectful way???

who is a devout Christian?? Jimmy C??? If he's a devout Christian, I'm the Pope.

[Alex+R 0]

Why is Jimmy Carter not a Christian? Am I missing something?

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Why is Jimmy Carter not a Christian? Am I missing something?

Nothing in this thread has proved is 'devout'. I don't doubt that he is Christian though.

[VivaMexico 0]

Why is Jimmy Carter not a Christian? Am I missing something?

Nothing in this thread has proved is 'devout'. I don't doubt that he is Christian though.

There a lot of people who call themselves Christians.

[Alex+R 0]

Why is Jimmy Carter not a Christian? Am I missing something?

Nothing in this thread has proved is 'devout'. I don't doubt that he is Christian though.

There a lot of people who call themselves Christians.

I have just always heard him described as a devout Christian. What has he done that was not Christian that you guys are referring to? (Was there some story I missed?)

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Why is Jimmy Carter not a Christian? Am I missing something?

Nothing in this thread has proved is 'devout'. I don't doubt that he is Christian though.

There a lot of people who call themselves Christians.

What has he done that was not Christian that you guys are referring to? (Was there some story I missed?)

I think you will find that the primary reason many of the posters on this thread consider him to be less than devout is that he is a Democrat, a party associated with the murder of wittle babies in the womb.

[VivaMexico 0]

Why is Jimmy Carter not a Christian? Am I missing something?

Nothing in this thread has proved is 'devout'. I don't doubt that he is Christian though.

There a lot of people who call themselves Christians.

What has he done that was not Christian that you guys are referring to? (Was there some story I missed?)

I think you will find that the primary reason many of the posters on this thread consider him to be less than devout is that he is a Democrat, a party associated with the murder of wittle babies in the womb.

His central theme of late is that America is under attack by a sinister force -- conservative Christians. he does not believe in a world of moral good and evil. "The most important factor is that fundamentalists have become increasingly influential in both religion and government, and have managed to change the nuances and subtleties of historic debate into black-and-white rigidities and the personal derogation of those who dare to disagree." Essentially Jimmy is a subscriber to the liberal theory that there is no right and wrong, just endless shades of gray.

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Essentially Jimmy is a subscriber to the liberal theory that there is no right and wrong, just endless shades of gray.

It is much easier to avoid having to have positions on issues if you believe that way. Try it sometime.

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Jimmy Carter...

Now, as a Christian, how can you be regard a devout Christian in such a disrepectful way???

tsk, tsk. But I'm sure if you'd think he's a saint if he were only a Republican.

Here's what the former President has to say about the Christian Right:

Former President Jimmy Carter, America's first evangelical Christian president, still teaches Sunday school at his Baptist church in Plains, Georgia, and he and his wife, Rosalynn, continue their human-rights work in developing nations through the Carter Center at Emory University. In recent months, the Carters toured Togo, Ghana, and Mali to raise awareness of the public-health needs of those nations. In February, Carter spoke about the role of evangelical Christianity in democratic politics with Prospect writing fellow Ayelish McGarvey.

Republicans have been extremely successful at connecting religion and values to issues like the fight against terrorism, abortion, and gay rights. Democrats have been far less adept at infusing our issues -- compassion, help for the poor, social justice -- with any sense of religious commitment or moral imperative. Why do you think that is?

When I was younger, almost all Baptists were strongly committed on a theological basis to the separation of church and state. It was only 25 years ago when there began to be a melding of the Republican Party with fundamentalist Christianity, particularly with the Southern Baptist Convention. This is a fairly new development, and I think it was brought about by the abandonment of some of the basic principles of Christianity.

First of all, we worship the prince of peace, not war. And those of us who have advocated for the resolution of international conflict in a peaceful fashion are looked upon as being unpatriotic, branded that way by right-wing religious groups, the Bush administration, and other Republicans.

Secondly, Christ was committed to compassion for the most destitute, poor, needy, and forgotten people in our society. Today there is a stark difference [between conservative ideology and Christian teaching] because most of the people most strongly committed to the Republican philosophy have adopted the proposition that help for the rich is the best way to help even poor people (by letting some of the financial benefits drip down to those most deeply in need). I would say there has been a schism drawn -- on theology and practical politics and economics between the two groups.

What has attracted conservative Christians to a party that protects corporate interests and promotes an aggressive foreign-policy agenda? How do those square?

There is an element of fundamentalism involved, which involves the belief on the part of a human being that [his or her] own concept of God is the proper one. And since [he or she has] the proper concept of God, [he or she is] particularly blessed and singled out for special consideration above and beyond those who disagree with [him or her].

Secondly, anyone who does disagree with [him or her], since [he or she is] harnessed to God in a unique way, then, by definition, must be wrong. And the second step is if you are in disagreement with [his or her] concept of the way to worship, even among the Christian community, is that you are inferior to [him or her]. And then the ultimate progression of that is that you’re not only different and wrong and inferior but in some ways you are subhuman. So there’s a loss of concern even for the death of those who disagree. And this takes fundamentalism to the extreme. This is an element of the fundamentalist cause in this country. If you are a wealthy white man, then you are naturally inclined to think that the poor are inferior and don’t deserve your first consideration. If you are a wealthy white man, then you also take on the proposition that women are inherently inferior. This builds up a sense of prejudice and alienation that permeates the Christian right during these days.

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How do you think the fundamentalist Christian right has misrepresented Christianity, as well as the democratic process?

Well, what do Christians stand for, based exclusively on the words and actions of Jesus Christ? We worship him as a prince of peace. And I think almost all Christians would conclude that whenever there is an inevitable altercation -- say, between a husband and a wife, or a father and a child, or within a given community, or between two nations (including our own) -- we should make every effort to resolve those differences which arise in life through peaceful means. Therein, we should not resort to war as a way to exalt the president as the commander in chief. A commitment to peace is certainly a Christian principle that even ultraconservatives would endorse, at least by worshipping the prince of peace.

And Christ reached out almost exclusively to the poor, suffering, abandoned, deprived -- the scorned, the condemned people -- including Samaritans and those who were diseased. The alleviation of suffering was a philosophy that was enhanced and emphasized by the life of Christ. Today the ultra-right wing, in both religion and politics, has abandoned that principle of Jesus Christ’s ministry.

Those are the two principal things in the practical sense that starkly separate the ultra-right Christian community from the rest of the Christian world: Do we endorse and support peace and support the alleviation of suffering among the poor and the outcast?

http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?sectio...;articleId=7572

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I don't disagree with Jimmy that peace is a fundamental tenet of Christianity, although I believe that Christ and the Church support military action in certain circumstances. Jesus' message was not entirely about peace though. You cannot take one part of Christianity and ignore other fundamental moral values.

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Why is Jimmy Carter not a Christian? Am I missing something?

Nothing in this thread has proved is 'devout'. I don't doubt that he is Christian though.

There a lot of people who call themselves Christians.

What has he done that was not Christian that you guys are referring to? (Was there some story I missed?)

I think you will find that the primary reason many of the posters on this thread consider him to be less than devout is that he is a Democrat, a party associated with the murder of wittle babies in the womb.

You're an @ss sometimes.