global warming

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I don't know who this Hoffman guy is but he is quoting a study from the journal "Science" which is a reputable source.

Sorry, but that's not from a reliable source even if you believe he's referencing from a science journal.

It's not that hard to find a body of science that studies climate:

The American Meteorological Society

American Geophysical Union

American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS)

World Meteorological Organization

[Nina~ 431]

I don't know who this Hoffman guy is but he is quoting a study from the journal "Science" which is a reputable source. The graph at the botom gives the timelines.

I have to agree with gallstones. Hoffman is not a reputable source for scientific data or analysis. He is a career conservative politician who ran for Congress in NY's 23rd congressional district and lost narrowly to Bill Owens. Moreover, he has a degree in accounting (not science).

[JohnSmith2007 353]

Sorry, but that's not from a reliable source even if you believe he's referencing from a science journal.

It's not that hard to find a body of science that studies climate:

The American Meteorological Society

American Geophysical Union

American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS)

World Meteorological Organization

So your saying that the graph is in error? Why is that? Are you the type that thinks anyone that is a skeptic is also automaticly a lier? If you want I can find the same graph from the Science study but why should I have to? Facts are facts no matter who repeats them are they not?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

So your saying that the graph is in error? Why is that? Are you the type that thinks anyone that is a skeptic is also automaticly a lier? If you want I can find the same graph from the Science study but why should I have to? Facts are facts no matter who repeats them are they not?

If that graph is from an actual body of science that studies the climate, I'm sure you'll find it.

Just Google any of those bodies of science I listed to find their website and from there you can search for climate records.

[luckytxn 2,264]

I say we stop the even more large global warming threat and that is H2O. It is a huge amount of our atmosphere but if we try real hard we may be able to stop or slow it down.

Also we can try to plug the volcanoes so they don't spew such harsh gases into the atmosphere. I even have ideas how we can try to stop earth quakes that are a known hazard that spews noxious fumes into the atmosphere and into rivers and the seas. Come on people we have to stop all this harsh acts that our earth is doing to itself. I have many ideas that can help us all. :dance:

[JohnSmith2007 353]

If that graph is from an actual body of science that studies the climate, I'm sure you'll find it.

Just Google any of those bodies of science I listed to find their website and from there you can search for climate records.

You really didn't answer my question. Just because a skeptic says something does that mean, to you, that he is lying?

I looked for that graph on the Science Magazine's web site but I would have to pay to see it. I did find this graph that is saying the same thing, that the planet warmed, on its own and without human intervention, in tens of years rather than thousands of years. You do trust NOAA I assume?

Medieval Warm Period - 9th to 13th Centuries

Norse seafaring and colonization around the North Atlantic at the end of the 9th century indicated that regional North Atlantic climate was warmer during medieval times than during the cooler "Little Ice Age" of the 15th - 19th centuries. As paleoclimatic records have become more numerous, it has become apparent that "Medieval Warm Period" or "Medieval Optimum" temperatures were warmer over the Northern Hemisphere than during the subsequent "Little Ice Age", and also comparable to temperatures during the early 20th century. The regional patterns and the magnitude of this warmth remain an area of active research because the data become sparse going back in time prior to the last four centuries.

The plot below, from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Fourth Assessment Report (2007), shows numerous Northern Hemisphere paleoclimatic temperature reconstructions. The various studies differ in methodology, and in the underlying paleoclimate proxy data utilized, but all reconstruct the same basic pattern of cool "Little Ice Age", warmer "Medieval Warm Period", and still warmer late 20th and 21st century temperatures.

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/medieval.html

Edited April 5, 2010 by JohnSmith2007