Indicted MIlitia turns out to be a Democrat.

[Danno 1,228]

Most indicted members of militia group are voters

By TOM TROY

BLADE POLITICS WRITER

Most of the indicted militia members accused of being anti-government extremists have active voting records, a check with area voter registration offices showed yesterday.

One is a registered Democrat, and the party affiliations of the rest could not be determined.

Jacob J. Ward, 33, of Huron, Ohio, voted as a Democrat in the 2004 and 2008 primary elections. He also voted in 10 other elections since 2000. Party affiliation in Ohio is determined by which party's ballot they requested in the most recent primary election.

Alleged ringleader David Brian Stone, Sr., 45, of Clayton, Mich., registered in Lenawee County, Michigan, in 1998, and last voted in the 2004 general election.

His, and other Michigan voters' party affiliations, if any, are not public records because of Michigan's open primary elections, officials said.

Mr. Stone's son, David Brian Stone, Jr., 19, of Adrian, Mich., registered to vote in April, 2009.

David Stone, Sr.'s wife, Tina Mae Stone, 44, of Clayton, Mich., registered Dec. 29, 2009. A clerk in the Lenawee County clerk's office said records show that Ms. Stone was previously registered and most recently voted in 2008.

Mr. Stone's other son, Joshua Matthew Stone, 21, of Clayton, Mich., also registered to vote in December, 2009. There is no record of him having voted.

Kristopher T. Sickles, 27, of Sandusky, registered to vote in 2007 but has not voted, according to the Erie County Board of Elections.

Joshua John Clough, 28, of Blissfield, Mich., registered in 2000 and voted in both the primary and general elections of 2008, and in a February, 2010, election.

Michael David Meeks, 40, of Manchester, Mich., registered in 1989, and voted in both the primary and general elections of 2008, according to the Washtenaw County Clerk's Office.

The only one of the accused anti-government extremists with no record of registering to vote is Thomas William Piatek, 46, of Whiting, Ind.

Are all charged in U.S. District Court in Detroit with seditious conspiracy, attempting to use weapons of mass destruction, and two counts of possessing a firearm during a crime of violence.

Contact Tom Troy at:

tomtroy@theblade.com

or 419-724-6058.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Most indicted members of militia group are voters

By TOM TROY

BLADE POLITICS WRITER

Most of the indicted militia members accused of being anti-government extremists have active voting records, a check with area voter registration offices showed yesterday.

One is a registered Democrat, and the party affiliations of the rest could not be determined.

Jacob J. Ward, 33, of Huron, Ohio, voted as a Democrat in the 2004 and 2008 primary elections. He also voted in 10 other elections since 2000. Party affiliation in Ohio is determined by which party's ballot they requested in the most recent primary election.

Alleged ringleader David Brian Stone, Sr., 45, of Clayton, Mich., registered in Lenawee County, Michigan, in 1998, and last voted in the 2004 general election.

His, and other Michigan voters' party affiliations, if any, are not public records because of Michigan's open primary elections, officials said.

Mr. Stone's son, David Brian Stone, Jr., 19, of Adrian, Mich., registered to vote in April, 2009.

David Stone, Sr.'s wife, Tina Mae Stone, 44, of Clayton, Mich., registered Dec. 29, 2009. A clerk in the Lenawee County clerk's office said records show that Ms. Stone was previously registered and most recently voted in 2008.

Mr. Stone's other son, Joshua Matthew Stone, 21, of Clayton, Mich., also registered to vote in December, 2009. There is no record of him having voted.

Kristopher T. Sickles, 27, of Sandusky, registered to vote in 2007 but has not voted, according to the Erie County Board of Elections.

Joshua John Clough, 28, of Blissfield, Mich., registered in 2000 and voted in both the primary and general elections of 2008, and in a February, 2010, election.

Michael David Meeks, 40, of Manchester, Mich., registered in 1989, and voted in both the primary and general elections of 2008, according to the Washtenaw County Clerk's Office.

The only one of the accused anti-government extremists with no record of registering to vote is Thomas William Piatek, 46, of Whiting, Ind.

Are all charged in U.S. District Court in Detroit with seditious conspiracy, attempting to use weapons of mass destruction, and two counts of possessing a firearm during a crime of violence.

Contact Tom Troy at:

tomtroy@theblade.com

or 419-724-6058.

Danno, do you ever give your posts the sniff test?

[Danno 1,228]

Danno, do you ever give your posts the sniff test?

Sure, I do it all the time.

In this case we know at least one is a Democrat.

You are flailing again, if you have a point (worth consideration)..... make it.

[Martyshk 137]

I kinda wonder..... if the third party, equal in power to the two we have now, emerges.. will the country just implode?

What would people do then? No more librul/conservative divide anymore.... I think people would start spontaneously combusting. Just a thought.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'm not sure I understand the point of the article - other than to suggest the irony that some supposed anarchist extremists are actually registered voters (participating in the thing that they are objecting to).

Naturally, Danno's subtitle comment is blatant baiting for an argument.

The bizarre fixation he has with the LEFT (why, he feels it necessary to capitalise it I really don't know) reminds me of those "my dad can beat up your dad" arguments you hear from kindergartners.

Clearly some people never grow up.

[Danno 1,228]

I'm not sure I understand the point of the article - other than to suggest the irony that some supposed anarchist extremists are actually registered voters (participating in the thing that they are objecting to).

Naturally, Danno's subtitle comment is blatant baiting for an argument.

The bizarre fixation he has with the LEFT (why, he feels it necessary to capitalise it I really don't know) reminds me of those "my dad can beat up your dad" arguments you hear from kindergartners.

Clearly some people never grow up.

IF you failed to get the point of my posting..... no biggie, sometimes folks need the ball pitched -underhand.

Apparently you have not been aware of the continuing effort of the LEFT (in caps) to paint the RIGHT as the sudden founders of aggressive behavior in politics, naturally one would have had to have been asleep during the Bush years to swallow this

.... but it's out there.

You must have also missed the story like that this MIlitia group was spawned by the GOP.

I posted this news story as it pokes holes in the OBAMA new cycle.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

IF you failed to get the point of my posting..... no biggie, sometimes folks need the ball pitched -underhand.

Apparently you have not been aware of the continuing effort of the LEFT (in caps) to paint the RIGHT as the sudden founders of aggressive behavior in politics, naturally one would have had to have been asleep during the Bush years to swallow this

.... but it's out there.

You must have also missed the story like that this MIlitia group was spawned by the GOP.

I posted this news story as it pokes holes in the OBAMA new cycle.

You posted the story because you're a die-hard partisan who mostly lives life with your head up your own #######. You'd have to in order to think that these things you post (this thread being a key case in point) somehow identifies some intellectual argument about the current state of the country.

Indeed when your head emerges from your backside on those few rare occasions, its only to dive head first up the arses of the LEFT and RIGHT and that of yellow journalism. Not that the journalism in this article is "yellow", but your interpretation of it certainly is.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Most indicted members of militia group are voters

One is a registered Democrat, and the party affiliations of the rest could not be determined.

Jacob J. Ward, 33, of Huron, Ohio, voted as a Democrat in the 2004 and 2008 primary elections. He also voted in 10 other elections since 2000. Party affiliation in Ohio is determined by which party's ballot they requested in the most recent primary election.

Danno, Danno, Danno. A little bit of amnesia here? Selective memory kicking in again?

Let's see: You comment that nine out of 10 loony extremists are from the left and you seem to base that on the finding in this article that one out of nine of the militia extremists is said to be a registered Democrat. Of course, that's hardly 90% of those arrested but closer to 11%. So, your math clearly fails here.

Now, let's take a look at how that one soul was found to be registered Democrat: Oh yes, he requested the Democrat's ballot in Ohio's primaries. That's how that determination was made. And just when I read that, I couldn't help but recollect the enormous effort on the right fringe - Limbaugh and Ingram came to mind - to make Republican loyalists vote in the Democratic primary for Hillary since they thought that they had a chance to beat Hilary in the general election but not so much a chance to beat Obama. Limbaugh called it "Operation Chaos". Remember? There goes the substance of your argument.

Math fail + Substance fail = Total fail.

Edited April 3, 2010 by Mr. Big Dog

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Radicals from the left? What a surprise!

[Niels Bohr 72]

Oh Snap! This was just released from the Right wing nuts!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Radicals from the left? What a surprise!

Do you have something that's not a half a century ago?

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Sure, I do it all the time.

In this case we know at least one is a Democrat.

You are flailing again, if you have a point (worth consideration)..... make it.

Big Dog stated plainly exactly what elements of your 'story' I saw off the bat. Notice I highlighted where the wheels began to fall off the bus proverbially for both your article and your idiotic conclusion regarding said article.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Do you have something that's not a half a century ago?

Has it been that long? Seems like only two score for me..

The roots of the Progressive movement run deep, and are just now showing fruit.

[Danno 1,228]

Danno, Danno, Danno. A little bit of amnesia here? Selective memory kicking in again?

Let's see: You comment that nine out of 10 loony extremists are from the left and you seem to base that on the finding in this article that one out of nine of the militia extremists is said to be a registered Democrat. Of course, that's hardly 90% of those arrested but closer to 11%. So, your math clearly fails here.

Now, let's take a look at how that one soul was found to be registered Democrat: Oh yes, he requested the Democrat's ballot in Ohio's primaries. That's how that determination was made. And just when I read that, I couldn't help but recollect the enormous effort on the right fringe - Limbaugh and Ingram came to mind - to make Republican loyalists vote in the Democratic primary for Hillary since they thought that they had a chance to beat Hilary in the general election but not so much a chance to beat Obama. Limbaugh called it "Operation Chaos". Remember? There goes the substance of your argument.

Math fail + Substance fail = Total fail.

Ahh Big Dog, in your confusion you stumbled again.

I made two observations, your error was tying them together.

A. Nine out of ten loons are from the Left.

B. From "this" militia case, we know the voting record of one so far and he is a registered Democrat.

Learn and grow my friend

You posted the story because you're a die-hard partisan who mostly lives life with your head up your own #######. You'd have to in order to think that these things you post (this thread being a key case in point) somehow identifies some intellectual argument about the current state of the country.

Indeed when your head emerges from your backside on those few rare occasions, its only to dive head first up the arses of the LEFT and RIGHT and that of yellow journalism. Not that the journalism in this article is "yellow", but your interpretation of it certainly is.

(yawn)

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Ahh Big Dog, in your confusion you stumbled again.

I made two observations, your error was tying them together.

A. Nine out of ten loons are from the Left.

B. From "this" militia case, we know the voting record of one so far and he is a registered Democrat.

Learn and grow my friend

So, what substantiates your "observation" A?

To your "observation" B, I spelled out pretty clearly that this registration claim is rather weak.

You continue to fail. Not that I'd expect anything less from you.