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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Germany
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That is not entirely correct.

Once you apply for the AOS and receive the (noa) you stop accumulating days "unlawful presence" (you do this if your status is "unlawful", ie, you went past the period of authorized stay) - since they accepted the application and your awaiting adjudication.

Any "unlawful presence" days prior to that still count (prior to the NOA date), and if your denied, the clock starts again till you leave. (and if over 180+ days, ban time upon re-entry to the US).

Simply applying for the AOS does not erase this "unlawful presence" - once you get the Greencard, it is not applied to you anymore, however (the unlawful presence),

This is why it's important that the applicant know their own "unlawful presence" days prior to leaving the US, even if the AP is approved (and you have the NOA from the AOS), because USCIS does not check when you request it (AP/AOS)

The bar is only triggered if you depart the US.

CBP will check when you re-enter, and if your over the days (180+) they can ban you. (3 yr ban = 180+ days (but less than 1 yr), 10 yr ban = 1 yr+) - you would need to get a waiver (if your using the AP) to get back into the US.

There are some exceptions and some harsh implications toward the adjustment application, but you would have to deal with it with your lawyer and USCIS - I would take the warning that is in the AP instructions and be very wary if I had any unlawful presence counted toward me.

This is in the AFM - but here is a nice write up of this topic (and changes to the AFM)

Thank you, for this response it is people like yourself that make a huge difference in other peoples lifes. How would I go about getting a exception? My family memeber has been diagnosed with cancer and I really want to see them before they pass away. Another question that comes to mind. Lets say I get a 3 year ban, could I apply again from my home country? What if I move my spouse overseas with me, and then do Direct Consular filings?

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Thank you, for this response it is people like yourself that make a huge difference in other peoples lifes. How would I go about getting a exception? My family memeber has been diagnosed with cancer and I really want to see them before they pass away. Another question that comes to mind. Lets say I get a 3 year ban, could I apply again from my home country? What if I move my spouse overseas with me, and then do Direct Consular filings?

Read page 18 of the link I provided. You would really need to discuss this with an immigration lawyer, skilled in AP cases (and with Unlawful presence) if you try to take this route.

If you get the ban, you would have to get a waiver to return to the US. You would do it at the embassy in your country.

Depending on the outcome, and the status of your AOS, they may require you to do a different visa entry.

I would think you would want the CR-1, not DCF if that was a choice.

Your case is even more complicated because you came here on a VWP entry. That is another level of complexity.

In a word or two - Lawyer up

My Advice is usually based on "Worst Case Scenario" and what is written in the rules/laws/instructions. That is the way I roll... -Protect your Status - file before your I-94 expires.

WARNING: Phrases in this post may sound meaner than they were intended to be. Read the Adjudicator's Field Manual from USCIS

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Germany
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Read page 18 of the link I provided. You would really need to discuss this with an immigration lawyer, skilled in AP cases (and with Unlawful presence) if you try to take this route.

If you get the ban, you would have to get a waiver to return to the US. You would do it at the embassy in your country.

Depending on the outcome, and the status of your AOS, they may require you to do a different visa entry.

I would think you would want the CR-1, not DCF if that was a choice.

Your case is even more complicated because you came here on a VWP entry. That is another level of complexity.

In a word or two - Lawyer up

Thank you once more for your response, if I do go the Cr-1 route, how would this work since I would have a 3 year ban but at the same time I am legally married to a US citizen? Would I get some type of specialty visa from the embassy?

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Felipe,

all the answers you get about exceptions and cases where blind people all of the sudden can see do not help your specific case. For all practical purposes, if you leave the US now, you have to expect that you won't be coming back before early 2013. It's really that simple.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Germany
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Felipe,

all the answers you get about exceptions and cases where blind people all of the sudden can see do not help your specific case. For all practical purposes, if you leave the US now, you have to expect that you won't be coming back before early 2013. It's really that simple.

Yes I agree, I am also considering moving my spouse with me to germany, if this is the case what procedure would be the fastest for allowing me to re-enter the Usa, and ultimately obtain my green card?

I cant say how much you guys are helping it is greatly,greatly appreciated!!!

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Yes I agree, I am also considering moving my spouse with me to germany, if this is the case what procedure would be the fastest for allowing me to re-enter the Usa, and ultimately obtain my green card?

If you go that route - your best return-path would be what is called DCF (Direct Consular Filing). You can get a good overview of the process HERE. It allows you guys to start the process while living in Germany and once approved, you will enter the US as a Permanent Resident.

Not an easy choice and I'm sure we all feel for your dilemma - we're here to help you if we can.

 
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