RFE for Birth Certificate, need help!

[Emmamama 2]

Hi guys,

Just got off the phone with an NVC operator (who was not as nice as the people I have spoke with before!). We have an RFE for my husband's birth certificate. It is not the original the woman told me. It in fact IS the original, the problem is that on the back side of birth certificate is that it says "...this document is a true copy of the its genuine birth certificate." We called the civil registrar's office and were told that this is the only birth certificate that they can and will issue. It is the only certificate that husband has had ever. The registrar's office said they can't give us the "original" because it is THEIR document and they will NOT give it to anyone.

It is stored away (god knows where) in their records somewhere. Again, they told us that the certificate he has is the ONLY one that citizens are given.

What should we do?

Should we write a letter explaining this and mail it back to the NVC? Ask the registrar's office to write this letter??

GRRRRRRR...

advice por favor!

[Otto 83]

The BC you currently have - does it have a raised 'official' seal on it?

[Emmamama 2]

Forgot to ADD this...

I read in Lingche

"Annotation by the appropriate authority indicating that it is an extract from the official records"

I said before that the document says that "this document is a true copy of its genuine birth certificate" and it is signed and stamped. Wouldn't this be annotation by the appropriate authority????

If we write a letter stating this would it be ok or does it need to be done by an official?

Because it looks like they won't write that the registrar may not write an explanation...

The BC you currently have - does it have a raised 'official' seal on it?

It's not raised, but it is an official stamp.

There is one on the front and one on the back.

[sachinky 465]

Can you talk to an operator? Explain the situation and see what they suggest?

Sorry about your RFE, btw.

They suck, bigtime.

[Emmamama 2]

Can you talk to an operator? Explain the situation and see what they suggest?

Sorry about your RFE, btw.

They suck, bigtime.

I KNOW. I cried, I'm not even going to front.

Will call now.

[sachinky 465]

Don't worry--I went completely ballistic when mine was issued. I didn't even know what it was for three whole days. It was like a sh*t-show.

I hope you can resolve it soon.

Maybe the registrar's office can write a letter stating that THAT is the only BC they issue to its citizens. And add a copy of it with some official stamps on it?

Edited March 29, 2010 by sachinky

[atsleumas 3]

Don't worry--I went completely ballistic when mine was issued. I didn't even know what it was for three whole days. It was like a sh*t-show.

I hope you can resolve it soon.

Maybe the registrar's office can write a letter stating that THAT is the only BC they issue to its citizens. And add a copy of it with some official stamps on it?

That really blows Em. See, it makes no sense to me how the NVC cant understand (being that they deal with other countries) that different things apply to different places? Please keep us posted on how you are going to proceed.

$hit Show Sachinky? That made me laff... I remember them days. You were a FORCE NOT to be reckoned with... thats for sure.

[canadian_wife 1,822]

If that is the only birth certificate the region your husband was born in issues, then get an official letter from the registrar stating so. This should staisfy NVC.

Alternatively, if there is something specific that they are looking for (perhaps an issue with the seal or what it says) then ask a live person at NVC

Sorry, we got an RFE as well, it is frustrating.

Good luck.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

Just to clarify an error that occurs frequently. The original birth certificate is issued after the birth. Sometimes the same day, sometimes a day or even two later. Mine was issued on December 1, 1957, which is one day after I was born. I have it, and I would never, not in a million years mail it to anybody. So please don't say it's the original, unless the document you mailed was as old as you are now.

What you sent is an official copy, and that should be sufficient, once you prove it is what it is.

[sachinky 465]

My original birth certificate too was issued the day after I was born. It is literally as old as I am. Yellow and fading and torn at the edges held together by tape.

NVC accepted it without any issues.

God help them if they lose it.

[vivekjay 1]

I would ask the operator to transfer you to a supervisor of they are of no help. A supervisor may have better handle on things. Your BC sounds to me as a certified copy so I am not sure why they have issue to begin with. This really blows

[Emmamama 2]

If that is the only birth certificate the region your husband was born in issues, then get an official letter from the registrar stating so. This should staisfy NVC.

Alternatively, if there is something specific that they are looking for (perhaps an issue with the seal or what it says) then ask a live person at NVC

Sorry, we got an RFE as well, it is frustrating.

Good luck.

Thanks. I called and the operator said that I could "write a quick little note" and then sort of went in the direction of getting a note from civil registrar.

RFEs are like...

eh. I think you could fill in the blank with any horrible thing.

[Emmamama 2]

I would ask the operator to transfer you to a supervisor of they are of no help. A supervisor may have better handle on things. Your BC sounds to me as a certified copy so I am not sure why they have issue to begin with. This really blows

Right??? Got off the phone with a second operator who was nicer but I'm getting all confused and angry and am not 100% sure I understood what she was saying. She then said that they hadn't actually sent out any info but on the AVR said that something was sent out last Friday. What's the deal??

That really blows Em. See, it makes no sense to me how the NVC cant understand (being that they deal with other countries) that different things apply to different places? Please keep us posted on how you are going to proceed.

$hit Show Sachinky? That made me laff... I remember them days. You were a FORCE NOT to be reckoned with... thats for sure.

Grrrrr...I know, I know. Things can be a lot worse just feelin' sorry for myself. Slash wanting to get "the show on the road" once and for all!

Thanks for looking out guys!

Will keep you updated!

Boa sorte!

[Emmamama 2]

Just to clarify an error that occurs frequently. The original birth certificate is issued after the birth. Sometimes the same day, sometimes a day or even two later. Mine was issued on December 1, 1957, which is one day after I was born. I have it, and I would never, not in a million years mail it to anybody. So please don't say it's the original, unless the document you mailed was as old as you are now.

What you sent is an official copy, and that should be sufficient, once you prove it is what it is.

It was issued AFTER his bday.

How should prove that "it is what it is"??

Argue on the phone (ha!) or send them a written statement??

And what should I put in the written statement?

So confused.

[mrs. wife! 3]

Oh Em, I'm so sorry! NVC is sending out RFEs like candy!

Hope you can fix it soon!