Terrorism in Moscow

[visaveteran 1]

By the way, here's a snapshot of current headlines (about a half hour ago) on the big news outlets:

BBC: Suicide bombings hit Moscow Metro

CNN: Job-seekers hide Facebook pages

MSNBC: Niche matchmaking sites attract date 'crashers'

FOX: Return to terror: What happens when wrong Gitmo detainees go free?

It's good to see the American press has their journalistic priorities in place.

Never let a crisis go to waste says Ralm Emanuel. And so says Mox, our resident liberal America hater.

The Russians play with fire giving the Iranians arms support and nuclear support. It buys them nothing but cash. Islam hates Russia.

I only hope the Russians don't screw up again as they did in the school attack and the movie house attack...where the Russians killed their own people with nerve gas.

This is a wake up call to all the Russo-centric men on here that talk about living in Russia.

Edited March 29, 2010 by visaveteran

[mox 298]

It's a terrible tragedy, what happened today

It is. I'm relieved we haven't heard about of VJ'ers affected by this tragedy yet.

[SMR 368]

Never let a crisis go to waste says Ralm Emanuel. And so says Mox, our resident liberal America hater.

The Russians play with fire giving the Iranians arms support and nuclear support. It buys them nothing but cash. Islam hates Russia.

I only hope the Russians don't screw up again as they did in the school attack and the movie house attack...where the Russians killed their own people with nerve gas.

This is a wake up call to all the Russo-centric men on here that talk about living in Russia.

So when 37 people die in a subway bombing, it's a wakeup call about how bad life is in Russia?

Do we really want to start talking about all of the senseless acts of unpredictable violence that have occurred in America and the associated death tolls? I guess they should have been wakeup calls for all those people on here that talk about living in America.

In terms of arms support to Iran, you're right that Islam doesn't like Russia much more than it likes the USA. Russia supports Iran because they are a thorn in the side of the USA. The USA, of course, has never supported a country that it fundamentally disagrees with because said country is a thorn in the side of someone else. When Bin Laden used American surface to air missiles to shoot down US planes, it couldn't have possibly been because we gave them to him to shoot at Soviet planes. And we all know that Saudi Arabia is really our friend.

[Cixelsyd 1]

Never let a crisis go to waste says Ralm Emanuel. And so says Mox, our resident liberal America hater.

The Russians play with fire giving the Iranians arms support and nuclear support. It buys them nothing but cash. Islam hates Russia.

I only hope the Russians don't screw up again as they did in the school attack and the movie house attack...where the Russians killed their own people with nerve gas.

This is a wake up call to all the Russo-centric men on here that talk about living in Russia.

For someone who claims to have moral fiber and always take the high ground, this sure contradicts those statements. People aren't even in the ground and you're already trying to find ways to use this tragedy to support your own pathetic agenda.

FYI, msnbc is considered a liberal media outlet. And if you think the American news agencies are on top of the ball, then I suggest you stay up to date on American Idol.

And finally, I don't remember anything in this thread being combative and or anti-American, so I don't know what you think you're doing here. You must have a short memory.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

We called our son first thing this morning when we heard the news and were glad when he answered. Though the stations are not near his school, he gets around and the one is near downtown where he often goes. I think sometimes we forget the rest of the world deals with terorism also. I do not belive theis will make Putin look bad. Not at all.

[visaveteran 1]

So when 37 people die in a subway bombing, it's a wakeup call about how bad life is in Russia?

Do we really want to start talking about all of the senseless acts of unpredictable violence that have occurred in America and the associated death tolls? I guess they should have been wakeup calls for all those people on here that talk about living in America.

In terms of arms support to Iran, you're right that Islam doesn't like Russia much more than it likes the USA. Russia supports Iran because they are a thorn in the side of the USA. The USA, of course, has never supported a country that it fundamentally disagrees with because said country is a thorn in the side of someone else. When Bin Laden used American surface to air missiles to shoot down US planes, it couldn't have possibly been because we gave them to him to shoot at Soviet planes. And we all know that Saudi Arabia is really our friend.

Unlike Russia, the USA does not hold Islam citizens hostage within our borders (as with Russia's Chechens). So there is no comparison between Russia and the US.

We have not been attacked since 2001 unless you count the Army shooter and a few other minor solo incidents. I'll take my chances here...the odds are better.

We do business with China every day...once a hated communist enemy. So what's your point?

I never heard of Bin Laden shooting down US planes. Show me your data.

[visaveteran 1]

For someone who claims to have moral fiber and always take the high ground, this sure contradicts those statements. People aren't even in the ground and you're already trying to find ways to use this tragedy to support your own pathetic agenda.

FYI, msnbc is considered a liberal media outlet. And if you think the American news agencies are on top of the ball, then I suggest you stay up to date on American Idol.

And finally, I don't remember anything in this thread being combative and or anti-American, so I don't know what you think you're doing here. You must have a short memory.

The Drudge Report has been on top of this story since it broke. That's why it gets millions of hits. MSNBC is too busy kissing Obama's azz to cover real news.

Mox's comments about the American media was a slur at the US IMO. A cheap shot and inappropriate. I don't hear you complaining.

Edited March 29, 2010 by visaveteran

[visaveteran 1]

We called our son first thing this morning when we heard the news and were glad when he answered. Though the stations are not near his school, he gets around and the one is near downtown where he often goes. I think sometimes we forget the rest of the world deals with terorism also. I do not belive theis will make Putin look bad. Not at all.

Putin's image? Who knows with the harsh suppression of a free press, political parties, and peaceful protests. But his image with the macho shirtless photos ops seem best suited for Gay magazines.

[SMR 368]

Unlike Russia, the USA does not hold Islam citizens hostage within our borders (as with Russia's Chechens). So there is no comparison between Russia and the US.

It's not a matter of the citizens so much as the territory. Russia considers that it has a right to it's sovereign territory. So does every other nation. The argument of provocation of Islamic aggression is long and convoluted. But if you think that nations don't have the right to control their territory, you don't have to go half way around the world to find someone to criticize and might start in your own back yard.

We have not been attacked since 2001 unless you count the Army shooter and a few other minor solo incidents. I'll take my chances here...the odds are better.

I'm not just talking about Islamic attacks. I'm also talking about school shootings, rampages, etc. You seem so ready to blow off 9/11, but this subway bombing is minuscule in comparison. Consider that that many other European cities have also seen similar violence. I think using this incident to demonstrate that Russia is generally less safe is a very weak argument.

We do business with China every day...once a hated communist enemy. So what's your point?

I didn't say anything about China. But I don't think US/China relations are as strong as you seem to think. Business is done as a matter of necessity and posturing.

I never heard of Bin Laden shooting down US planes. Show me your data.

My point wasn't that Bin Laden was successful but rather that the US also has a history of helping people because they are fighting someone we don't like and then turning around and seeing them shooting at us, too. We did give him stinger missiles in the '80s. I may have overstated it to say that he shot some down, but he did shoot.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

You can discuss the different interpretations of what the attacks mean, but DO NOT use them as a venue to make personal attacks or try to score political brownie points at the expense of VJ members. Those actions violate the Terms of Service for Visa Journey and are unacceptable.

[mox 298]

So tomorrow (today actually, it's about 6am in Moscow) has been declared an official day of mourning in Russia. Hoping everybody's family and friends are safe.

[slim 1,525]

The one thing we found somewhat humorous about this whole incident was the difference in the response of the govt. there and the govt. here.

When the U.S. is attacked, the president gets on and says, "this is a sad day for our country but we will stand united against these terrorists and they will not break our resolve to continue on as Americans. We will find the terrorists responsible for this event and we will bring them to justice."

The Russian presi... er, uhm, I mean, Prime Minister... gets on and says, "we will destroy them."

Here in America we're going to bring justice to them. Serve it up on a platter. Deliver it, even! We're such nice people. (At least on the surface.) In Russia, they don't have time for all that sugar-coating pc bullcrap. They're going to kill some people. And they're going to do it soon!

[Hellzbelz 0]

I just caught this news and came here in hopes no one here was directly affected by it... Very sad and alarming.

Yes, it is very sad. Unfortunately, it is a sign of the times that no country is safe and anything can happen at any time...

Jim

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

The one thing we found somewhat humorous about this whole incident was the difference in the response of the govt. there and the govt. here.

When the U.S. is attacked, the president gets on and says, "this is a sad day for our country but we will stand united against these terrorists and they will not break our resolve to continue on as Americans. We will find the terrorists responsible for this event and we will bring them to justice."

The Russian presi... er, uhm, I mean, Prime Minister... gets on and says, "we will destroy them."

Here in America we're going to bring justice to them. Serve it up on a platter. Deliver it, even! We're such nice people. (At least on the surface.) In Russia, they don't have time for all that sugar-coating pc bullcrap. They're going to kill some people. And they're going to do it soon!

But, Slim...Alla says they WILL have the courtesy to ask the terrorists into which ear they want the bullet to be fired.

[SMR 368]

But, Slim...Alla says they WILL have the courtesy to ask the terrorists into which ear they want the bullet to be fired.

They might ask, but they'll do whatever they want to anyways.