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Wondering if anyone's experiences this before.

My wife has gone through all the requirements for the last 5 years to prove that we've been married. We've been married for 5 years and have two children and have lived in the same place the entire time. She's now applied for citizenship and we're waiting to the interview app't. but we've received a yellow letter stating that they wanted more documents like a driver's license or state ID and 3 years of Income Tax.

1: Why don't they ask for this for N400 submittal?

2: In prior parts of this overall process I've submitted IRS forms showing both our names. Why ask again?

3: My wife does not have a driver's license or a state ID. Isn't the green card enough ID, I mean after all the stringent checks and evidence I've had to submit for them to issue a greencard, wouldn't that be enough?? Don't they trust themselves that they've checked well enough?

Sorry if that sounds ranty, it's just odd after having never received a request for extra info through the entire process, to now at this final leg, to be sent this letter.

Thanks for any advice!

Timeline:

09 Mar 2004 -- Mailed I129F Petition

10 Mar 2004 -- Petition Rec'd in Vermont SC

15 Mar 2004 -- Check Clears

17 Mar 2004 -- Rec'd first NOA

21 Apr 2004 -- Approved ONLINE!

26 Apr 2004 -- Rec'd NOA #2 by mail

27 Apr 2004 -- NVC receives Petition

30 Apr 2004 -- NVC Mails Petition to Embassy!

05 May 2004-- Embassy receives Petition

18 May 2004-- Packet 3 received

21 May 2004-- Medical Appointment and Vax

26 May 2004-- Applied for visa (got PIN to call Embassy)

28 May 2004-- Received Medical Results, called for interview date--They said interview date would be sent by mail within a Month.

01 Jun 2004 -- Wrote and sent letter to Embassy requesting interview within certain date range. Hope it works! --Did not work :(

22 Jul 2004-- Fiancee receives interview letter. Date is set to 08 September 2004. That's 6 months almost to the day of sending 129f!

08 Sep 2004-- K1 Embassy Interview is successful!!!

12 Sep 2004-- POE at JFK, no problems, temp work permit issued!

13 Sep 2004-- Applied for SS card.

23 Sep 2004-- Receive SS card

06 Nov 2004-- Married!

AOS/EAD

10 Feb 2005--Overnighted AOS/EAD package to Chicago center

06 Mar 2005--Rec's AOs/EAD NOA (must make Bio appt.)

08 Mar 2005--Biometrics Appt set for Apr 17

17 Apr 2005--Was fingerprinted and pictures were taken, took less than an hour. EAD will arrive within 90 days.

19 Apr 2005--Online Approval of EAD, says it will arrive as soon as card is ready--whatever that means...

25 Apr 2005--Online notice that AOS process is now continuing due to Biometrics being complete

To be cont'd.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
Timeline
Posted

Wondering if anyone's experiences this before.

My wife has gone through all the requirements for the last 5 years to prove that we've been married. We've been married for 5 years and have two children and have lived in the same place the entire time. She's now applied for citizenship and we're waiting to the interview app't. but we've received a yellow letter stating that they wanted more documents like a driver's license or state ID and 3 years of Income Tax.

1: Why don't they ask for this for N400 submittal?

2: In prior parts of this overall process I've submitted IRS forms showing both our names. Why ask again?

3: My wife does not have a driver's license or a state ID. Isn't the green card enough ID, I mean after all the stringent checks and evidence I've had to submit for them to issue a greencard, wouldn't that be enough?? Don't they trust themselves that they've checked well enough?

Sorry if that sounds ranty, it's just odd after having never received a request for extra info through the entire process, to now at this final leg, to be sent this letter.

Thanks for any advice!

Most of this information is in the M-476 Naturalization guide you are also suppose to read, find that in the N-400 USCIS form site. N-400 is just about 99% redundant, we got by with three years of joint federal taxes exactly the way we sent them to the IRS with all W-2's and 1099's attached and with our signatures hand written in to make it a legal document. Copying your signature in the country is not considered a legal document. Can also call the IRS and get transcripts of your taxes.

We never had to show any other ID than the green card, matter of fact, it was the LPR card my wife had to show to get her drivers' license, and my underage daughter required a state ID to travel the domestic airlines that we got from our same DMV office. If they do want a state ID, would also be based on your wife's LPR resident card. Natural born USC has to bring in a birth certificate.

Bringing in a state ID does sound just as crazy as bringing in a worthless utility bill, they don't give a damn what name you put on the bill, if you don't pay, the bill goes against your property, or if you rent, on your landlords property with a lean. Not even sure which field offices require this bit of evidence, or if it is just some IO with a bug up their butt that requires it. But that IO does have the power to accept or to reject your application, so you either take that person to court that would end up in a huge delay, or just do it and get it over with. Your wife should be able to get a photo state ID from your local DMV office.

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Wondering if anyone's experiences this before.

My wife has gone through all the requirements for the last 5 years to prove that we've been married. We've been married for 5 years and have two children and have lived in the same place the entire time. She's now applied for citizenship and we're waiting to the interview app't. but we've received a yellow letter stating that they wanted more documents like a driver's license or state ID and 3 years of Income Tax.

1: Why don't they ask for this for N400 submittal?

2: In prior parts of this overall process I've submitted IRS forms showing both our names. Why ask again?

3: My wife does not have a driver's license or a state ID. Isn't the green card enough ID, I mean after all the stringent checks and evidence I've had to submit for them to issue a greencard, wouldn't that be enough?? Don't they trust themselves that they've checked well enough?

Sorry if that sounds ranty, it's just odd after having never received a request for extra info through the entire process, to now at this final leg, to be sent this letter.

Thanks for any advice!

Hi,

How long has your wife been a LPR? USCIS doesn't care how long you have been married. From what you wrote, it looks like your wife is eligible for citizenship based on 5 years residency, but it won't hurt to clarify that.

Now, to answer your questions, from what you stated the yellow letter requested, it looks like USCIS accepted her application based on a 3 year LPR and not 5. When you apply with the 3 year condition, then you need to provide some evidence with the original application to show that you are still married and you have been living together.

For USCIS, every time you submit an application you will be required to provide additional evidence and usually a biometrics. The fact that they have copies of these documents from previous steps doesn't mean that they will dig them up and do the work for you/us...

However, from past posts, I don't think you need to mail the evidence in - just make sure your wife has it with her during her interview. Also, I highly recommend your wife obtains a State ID if she doesn't want a DL... because both documents are state issued and they have your current address on them...

N-400 Naturalization Timeline

06/28/11 .. Mailed N-400 package via Priority mail with delivery confirmation

06/30/11 .. Package Delivered to Dallas Lockbox

07/06/11 .. Received e-mail notification of application acceptance

07/06/11 .. Check cashed

07/08/11 .. Received NOA letter

07/29/11 .. Received text/e-mail for biometrics notice

08/03/11 .. Received Biometrics letter - scheduled for 8/24/11

08/04/11 .. Walk-in finger prints done.

08/08/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Placed in line for interview scheduling

09/12/11 .. Received Yellow letter dated 9/7/11

09/13/11 .. Received text/e-mail: Interview scheduled

09/16/11 .. Received interview letter

10/19/11 .. Interview - PASSED

10/20/11 .. Received text/email: Oath scheduled

10/22/11 .. Received OATH letter

11/09/11 .. Oath ceremony

Filed: Other Timeline
Posted

The past 3 tax returns or transcripts is one of the very few 'MUST' requirements. If your wife (NOT YOU, Sir) fails to comply with even that simple requirement, it's only natural that the immigration people have a closer look at the application and find a few other things to nag about.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

 
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