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[Wantedtobelieve 4]

I am getting ready to file for divorce. Hubby has already said he will qualify for food stamps on his income (like his buddy). (He just received his 10 year green card after lifting conditions.) This is true, but does that mean I am going to have to pay back the government if he gets food stamps for the next 5 years? Please advise if you have any info. I know my obligation stops for citizenship, remarriage, death, or leaving the country. BUT he could milk this for a long time to come. He is perfectly able to work, but still does not make much income. Help!!!

Edited March 22, 2010 by Wantedtobelieve

[Darnell 8,478]

please call ICE (number is below, at bottom of this page)

and inquire with them exactly what your options are.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

I am getting ready to file for divorce. Hubby has already said he will qualify for food stamps on his income (like his buddy). (He just received his 10 year green card after lifting conditions.) This is true, but does that mean I am going to have to pay back the government if he gets food stamps for the next 5 years? Please advise if you have any info. I know my obligation stops for citizenship, remarriage, death, or leaving the country. BUT he could milk this for a long time to come. He is perfectly able to work, but still does not make much income. Help!!!

Sounds like he is trying to scare you into staying married. No greencard holder can get ANY foodstamps, medicare or anything else until they have been here 5 tears. I know this for a fact because even though I worked my husband didnt and we qualified but he didnt. They marked his application INELIGBLE. You have nothing to be afraid of because he cannot get ANY MEANS TESTED BENEFITS until he has been here 5 years. Dont worry. He is lying to you and just let him know that if he continues to threaten you , you will document that in your letter to USCIS. You cannot get food stamps for more than 3 months in a 3 year period either and no one is going to grant a single guy with no kids and the ability to work foodstamps. Mostly women with young kids qualify. He is really yanking your chain trying to scare you into stopping the divorce. Dont buy his bs and if you dont believe me, call your foodstamp office and they will verify this fact. These standards are nationwide

. Sugar momma, wipe him off your books. Hes a scum bag

Edited March 22, 2010 by Hanging in there

[3600rs 24]

I am getting ready to file for divorce. Hubby has already said he will qualify for food stamps on his income (like his buddy). (He just received his 10 year green card after lifting conditions.) This is true, but does that mean I am going to have to pay back the government if he gets food stamps for the next 5 years? Please advise if you have any info. I know my obligation stops for citizenship, remarriage, death, or leaving the country. BUT he could milk this for a long time to come. He is perfectly able to work, but still does not make much income. Help!!!

I have rarely seen the government coming after the USC because of benefits used by the ex. But there have been cases where the ex has pulled the USC to court for the I864. Although thats in the legal contracts court and not immigration court. I wonder what ICE will do...getting food stamps and not making enough income are not immigration offenses. With conditions removed, 10 year green card in hand its best for you to encourage to become a USC ASAP. Once he is a USC throw of that leech from your skin! Or else your in for some never ending milking. Citizenship will make him more lazy milking of the government and not you.

[Beauty for Ashes 257]

I am getting ready to file for divorce. Hubby has already said he will qualify for food stamps on his income (like his buddy). (He just received his 10 year green card after lifting conditions.) This is true, but does that mean I am going to have to pay back the government if he gets food stamps for the next 5 years? Please advise if you have any info. I know my obligation stops for citizenship, remarriage, death, or leaving the country. BUT he could milk this for a long time to come. He is perfectly able to work, but still does not make much income. Help!!!

PS. Stop talking to him and just file for divorce. He is tormenting you and probably wants either money out of you or a US Passport which he can apply for if you dont divorce him. Where is this ####### from anyway?

[3600rs 24]

PS. Stop talking to him and just file for divorce. He is tormenting you and probably wants either money out of you or a US Passport which he can apply for if you dont divorce him. Where is this ####### from anyway?

Where is he from is not relevant... Laziness is a citizen in every country! He got is 10 year green card and will be ready for 3 year citizenship soon..maybe this year or the next. Do not divorce him and prolong his citizenship. Stay married, give him his citizenship and then divorce him.

your I864 ends with fulfilling one of the below:

1. working 40 quarter credits. Thats lots of work when laziness is a virtue. NOT POSSIBLE

2. he dies. he could blame you for his death. NOT POSSIBLE

3. He abandons the green card...he is here to stay. NOT POSSIBLE

4. he is removed from the US....I dont see a non criminal leech being removed. NOT POSSIBLE.

5. Becomes a USC....POSSIBLE!

Divorce will not end your 864 obligations, on the contrary it will extend them by 2 additional years. Hopefully he is intelligent and hardworking to pass the citizenship exam. If he is notoriously lazy then you are looking at a good night sleep only till be gets US citizenship.

Edited March 22, 2010 by 3600rs

[ziia 9]

I am getting ready to file for divorce. Hubby has already said he will qualify for food stamps on his income (like his buddy). (He just received his 10 year green card after lifting conditions.) This is true, but does that mean I am going to have to pay back the government if he gets food stamps for the next 5 years? Please advise if you have any info. I know my obligation stops for citizenship, remarriage, death, or leaving the country. BUT he could milk this for a long time to come. He is perfectly able to work, but still does not make much income. Help!!!

I seriously won't let that keep me awake at night. Just focus on your divorce and getting your life back on track. The chances for the government to come after you are very slim. Good luck and take care of yourself, girl.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Most people don't understand that is the limit really isn't 10 years. It is 40 quarters of covered work. There is a formula on how it is all counted but if someone sits on their backside they will never get to 40 quarters and you are on the hook until one of the other events happen.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

Most people don't understand that is the limit really isn't 10 years. It is 40 quarters of covered work. There is a formula on how it is all counted but if someone sits on their backside they will never get to 40 quarters and you are on the hook until one of the other events happen.

Yes but your spouse's quarters of work also count towards the immigrants 40 quarters. AND if you AND you spouse work it is counted as double time. So if I work 8 quarters while my husband does, that's 16 quarters. Here's a link: http://www.dshs.wa.gov/manuals/eaz/sections/CitizenRestricFSP.shtml so yes it can be more but it can also be less. It tends to be less though.

I also notice the OP said that remarriage means her I-864 is cancelled so I thought I should directly answer that.. no it doesn't. If he, or you, remarry, you are still responsible for the I-864 until any of the conditions previously mentioned by "3600rs" (post 6) are achieved.

PLEASE NOTE that divorce cancels out the sharing of work quarters as mentioned in the link I posted. Please read the link to save confusion as to my meaning. When I say spouse, I mean spouse, not FORMER spouse.

**Edited as Bobby_Umit was confused by my posting and drew an incorrect conclusion about it's meaning.

Edited March 23, 2010 by Vanessa&Tony

[3600rs 24]

I also notice the OP said that remarriage means her I-864 is cancelled so I thought I should directly answer that.. no it doesn't. If he, or you, remarry, you are still responsible for the I-864 until any of the conditions previously mentioned by "3600rs" (post 6) are achieved.

I do not really know the finer points of the I864 with regards of him getting married to another USC. Its reasonable enough to assume that a new USC spouse would sign a new I864 voiding the old 864. But then again I864 are comes into picture during Adjustment, in this case adjustment of status is over and the 10 year green card approved. It would be helpful if someone can educate us about the I864 under such circumstances. Also what happens if the USC get married again...IS she responsible for 2 I864's then?

Thanks

Edited March 22, 2010 by 3600rs

[When2RNLove 6]

Sounds like he is trying to scare you into staying married. No greencard holder can get ANY foodstamps, medicare or anything else until they have been here 5 tears. I know this for a fact because even though I worked my husband didnt and we qualified but he didnt. They marked his application INELIGBLE. You have nothing to be afraid of because he cannot get ANY MEANS TESTED BENEFITS until he has been here 5 years. Dont worry. He is lying to you and just let him know that if he continues to threaten you , you will document that in your letter to USCIS. You cannot get food stamps for more than 3 months in a 3 year period either and no one is going to grant a single guy with no kids and the ability to work foodstamps. Mostly women with young kids qualify. He is really yanking your chain trying to scare you into stopping the divorce. Dont buy his bs and if you dont believe me, call your foodstamp office and they will verify this fact. These standards are nationwide

. Sugar momma, wipe him off your books. Hes a scum bag

Actually, there is in the state of California a program, I don't recall the technical name, that does provide single males, with a check and Food Stamps even while looking for employment, and it's called General Relief or GR for short. I have know several single males that have done this. Some have kids, and some don't, but they are born citizens though.

Edited March 23, 2010 by Mike N Julie

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

I do not really know the finer points of the I864 with regards of him getting married to another USC. Its reasonable enough to assume that a new USC spouse would sign a new I864 voiding the old 864. But then again I864 are comes into picture during Adjustment, in this case adjustment of status is over and the 10 year green card approved. It would be helpful if someone can educate us about the I864 under such circumstances. Also what happens if the USC get married again...IS she responsible for 2 I864's then?

Thanks

Yes and she would need to make enough income to support 3 ( assuming no children involved )

[Wantedtobelieve 4]

Dang, I might as well have adopted triplets for life or something. I still can't get it through his thick head that I should not have to put him through new job training. It is like reasoning with a brick wall. BTW, he is from MENA. I don't really want to say the country so as not to sully its reputation...lol

Thanks for all of your input!!

[Darnell 8,478]

YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY WHERE.

Is all revealed in yer prior posts. Seriously, call ICE, get their opinion.

[VanessaTony 3,567]

I do not really know the finer points of the I864 with regards of him getting married to another USC. Its reasonable enough to assume that a new USC spouse would sign a new I864 voiding the old 864. But then again I864 are comes into picture during Adjustment, in this case adjustment of status is over and the 10 year green card approved. It would be helpful if someone can educate us about the I864 under such circumstances. Also what happens if the USC get married again...IS she responsible for 2 I864's then?

Thanks

As stated on the I-864, the I-864 cannot be "revoked" or "changed" once it is submitted (and subsequently accepted which occurs when the foreigner obtains their greencard using the submitted I-864/s). Someone once asked whether now that they earnt enough money, if they could take the joint-sponsor off.. wasn't allowed.

Someone else married another foreigner and had to make sure to mention they had another I-864 sponsored person. Until the quarters have been worked, the person dies, gives up their greencard or becomes a USC you're responsible for them... which is why it sucks when USC's are lied to and taken advantage of.

**Edited as Bobby_Umit was confused by my posting and drew an incorrect conclusion about it's meaning.

Edited March 23, 2010 by Vanessa&Tony