Would anybody be upset if the coup d'état happens tonight?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I hope there's no coup.

We need some new govt. reps, but coups and the like are not the way to go about change.

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes;... But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security... The history of the present... is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance...and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

[Peikko 1,575]

I hope there's no coup.

We need some new govt. reps, but coups and the like are not the way to go about change.

I'm confused, isn't this the real reason you own a gun?

[Pooky 3,787]

I'm confused, isn't this the real reason you own a gun?

No, MC, you got that wrong. It's supposed to be a well-regulated militia.

Well, they aren't regulated, but they are rather militant, wouldn't you say?

[Peikko 1,575]

No, MC, you got that wrong. It's supposed to be a well-regulated militia.

Well, they aren't regulated, but they are rather militant, wouldn't you say?

Some of them certainly are

[justashooter 430]

No, MC, you got that wrong. It's supposed to be a well-regulated militia.

Well, they aren't regulated, but they are rather militant, wouldn't you say?

"well regulated" means trained in the skills of warcraft. look it up.

[Pooky 3,787]

"well regulated" means trained in the skills of warcraft. look it up.

And a sense of humour is something you can't get by a transplant, doofus.

[Peikko 1,575]

"well regulated" means trained in the skills of warcraft. look it up.

What skills? Apparently any idiot can pick up a gun and shoot it with deadly accuracy even with only 10 minutes training, it's like riding a bicycle

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

What skills? Apparently any idiot can pick up a gun and shoot it with deadly accuracy even with only 10 minutes training, it's like riding a bicycle

Don't hijack my thread!

[Peikko 1,575]

Sorry

[Pooky 3,787]

Sorry

No you're not

[Peikko 1,575]

I am - a little bit

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

"well regulated" means trained in the skills of warcraft. look it up.

Warcraft is it, what do you think you are?

[SMR 368]

The Iraq war, in large part, is winding down and appears to be successful. It's certainly premature to make a judgment, but that goes both ways. It may turn out to have been a good thing.

Social security was a terrible idea 70+ years ago when it was passed and isn't much better now. The program is going bankrupt and seriously under-performs when compared to private investment. Medicare is similar, if you consider that workers adding Medicare taxes into private retirement accounts, would be able to pay for their health insurance during retirement. Medicare is a badly managed Ponzi-scheme, just life SS.

I think the American public at large has a pretty good BS detector when it comes to bad fiscal reform.

That said, I'm a little skeptical of the American public when it claims to have a good understanding of the healthcare bill. The bill is an aqueous 2300 page pile of legalese that I doubt anybody understands.