Here is a reason to own a gun

[Ban Hammer 13,408]

So perhaps you should allow for some legislation so that 'people like me' can't get their hands on one? Or, do you advocate that 'people that are dangerous when they have a gun' should simply be allowed to run around with one anyway? All in the name of what? Civil liberties? Personal safety

just outta curiosity, mc, are you planning on applying for citizenship?

[Peikko 1,575]

just outta curiosity, mc, are you planning on applying for citizenship?

Of course.

[Ban Hammer 13,408]

Of course.

you'll be happy to know this then:

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_citizenship_%28United_States%29

oh wait, the 2nd amendment is part of that

[natty bumppo 297]

you'll be happy to know this then:

I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God

http://en.wikipedia....nited_States%29

oh wait, the 2nd amendment is part of that

behind her back ... she will have her fingers crossed

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well its not as though there is ANY debate whatsoever among USC's about what the second amendment actually entails

Apparently being a USC requires lockstep obedience and homogeneous opinion.

And I thought this was the land of the free, now I'm being told that it is the land of the sheep!

Go figure

[Ban Hammer 13,408]

Well its not as though there is ANY debate whatsoever among USC's about what the second amendment actually entails

Apparently being a USC requires lockstep obedience and homogeneous opinion.

And I thought this was the land of the free, now I'm being told that it is the land of the sheep!

Go figure

more like the oath taking ceremony probably is not the best place for her to say something about the parts of the constitution she doesn't like.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That's a really dumb thing to say Charles. Why would anyone do that? The oath taking ceremony isn't a "debate".

[natty bumppo 297]

That's a really dumb thing to say Charles. Why would anyone do that? The oath taking ceremony isn't a "debate".

the ceremony is the perfect place to object to the I, III, IV, V, VI, VII, ... amendment ... she should go for it

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Perhaps you should, since its rather starting to look as though you don't believe in the first amendment

All... that... talking...

words... waste... time...

Why... use... grammar... when you can...

... ... ... ... ... ... ...

[natty bumppo 297]

Perhaps you should, since its rather starting to look as though you don't believe in the first amendment

All... that... talking...

words... waste... time...

Why... use... grammar... when you can...

... ... ... ... ... ... ...

is this the best retort you have?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well you used a complete sentence there, didn't you

Perhaps you're just lazy

[Peikko 1,575]

Charles springs his trap. Hilarious.

[Peikko 1,575]

I don't object to the constitution, I just think people are extremely foolish to rely on owning guns as a means to protect civil liberties, which is exactly the position I have maintained in this thread. What a surprise.

[natty bumppo 297]

I don't object to the constitution, I just think people are extremely foolish to rely on owning guns as a means to protect civil liberties, which is exactly the position I have maintained in this thread. What a surprise.

what do you think protects the rest of the amendments??

never mind ... you are from the UK ... the misfits (a world power at the time) that got booted out not once ... but twice

[luckytxn 2,264]

Foolish to rely on owning guns as a means to protect civil liberties?

May be one of the most moronic statements ever made here. Wow.