Religious scholars say Glenn Beck is ignorant

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

That is the point though, christians are part of the secular world and in so far as there is an obligation on them to live their lives according to some basic values, that obligation translates into 'good works' within their immediate community and the wider world. Mostly, these are social programs that provide help to those who are less fortunate. Some are outreach. There are very few social programs that are implemented by church congregations that are in any way sinister and are mostly concerned with providing relief for those in poverty - although the people that went into Haiti to 'rescue babies' and such like probably need a kick up the behind - but for the most part, these programs are not a threat to anyone, and in fact improve the basic fabric of the local community.

There is a difference between charity works and what the term, "social justice," means. One is compassion, the other is confiscation and redistribution.

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[Darnell 8,479]

Sounds like Mr. Beck has unearthed the Bush's administration's 'hope' for NGOs and religious entities to do something with 'faith-based initiatives'.

It's a lot of the same wording, but thankfully - the 'faith-based initiatives' NEVER got funded.

I have to wonder who's doing his research - I'll suggest to anyone that it's a bit outdated.

[Peikko 1,575]

There is a difference between charity works and what the term, "social justice," means. One is compassion, the other is confiscation and redistribution.

Confiscation? Under what conspiracy theory are congregations having their possessions confiscated? Please, I need concrete examples, not "my congregation is a bunch of zombies that would do anything my pastor told them to" because frankly, if your pastor or any pastor in a normal, every day church manages to get the congregation to give away a 10th of their wealth, they are bloody miracle workers. Most people do not give more than they can afford to church fund raising. A few do but I have never heard of anyone having their possessions confiscated - except in these situations where a sect manipulates a hapless bunch of folks in order to line their own pockets which is simple extortion, not communism.

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[Danno 1,228]

Wikipedia again?

Being a Jesuit does not make a man infallible. I don't believe being a Pope does either, although the Church teaches us that as well.

The Pope is infallible it's his teaching which is not.

[Niels Bohr 72]

There is no exact definition of social justice just as there's no exact definition to love.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Mr. Beck seemed ignorant

Seemed?

[Danno 1,228]

There is a difference between charity works and what the term, "social justice," means. One is compassion, the other is confiscation and redistribution.

The Part that steve either stumbles over or refuses to see is, The social justice Steve keeps referring to is almost exclusively delivered in either a "personal" or "Church" concept.

Steve, quote for us the words of Christ where he compels us to compel others to live out the social Justice you see so clearly in the Gospels.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

The Pope is infallible it's his teaching which is not.

If a man is infallible, shouldn't it follow that his teachings must be?

[Peikko 1,575]

The idea that any human is infallible is just a joke, and a piss poor one at that.

[BishopM 114]

Oh for goodness sake, social justice is just a word used to cover notions of treating people with respect derived from an idea of mutual support within society. Christ's activities in the new testament are all examples of living life for the benefit of others who are worse off than you are yourself, providing succor and love to the lowest of the low. He did not seek power, riches or fame, he sought those afflicted by illness, poverty and disease and immorality and demanded his followers cherish and nurtured these people.

Whatever one thinks of the new testament, what it is not is an example for people to lead isolated and self serving lives.

Beautifully spoken, Dearest MC

[chri'stina 190]

Oh for goodness sake, social justice is just a word used to cover notions of treating people with respect derived from an idea of mutual support within society. Christ's activities in the new testament are all examples of living life for the benefit of others who are worse off than you are yourself, providing succor and love to the lowest of the low. He did not seek power, riches or fame, he sought those afflicted by illness, poverty and disease and immorality and demanded his followers cherish and nurtured these people.

Whatever one thinks of the new testament, what it is not is an example for people to lead isolated and self serving lives.

Well said MC. I know you don't believe the spiritual aspects of the bible but as a Christian I fully agree with your observation above.

For whoever asked about social justice in the bible, how about the parables, told by Jesus, of The Good Samaritan(for context, know that the Samaritans and the local people Jesus was talking to did not get along), The Sheep and the Goats, and James 1:27 just for a couple examples.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Well said MC. I know you don't believe the spiritual aspects of the bible but as a Christian I fully agree with your observation above.

For whoever asked about social justice in the bible, how about the parables, told by Jesus, of The Good Samaritan(for context, know that the Samaritans and the local people Jesus was talking to did not get along), The Sheep and the Goats, and James 1:27 just for a couple examples.

Christina has the communism!!

[Danno 1,228]

If a man is infallible, shouldn't it follow that his teachings must be?

I knew someone would go there.

[chri'stina 190]

Christina has the communism!!

If I say you need to accept Jesus as your savior to be saved, can I go back to has-ing something else?

[Danno 1,228]

Well said MC. I know you don't believe the spiritual aspects of the bible but as a Christian I fully agree with your observation above.

For whoever asked about social justice in the bible, how about the parables, told by Jesus, of The Good Samaritan(for context, know that the Samaritans and the local people Jesus was talking to did not get along), The Sheep and the Goats, and James 1:27 just for a couple examples.

Those are all great examples of how the personal responsibility CHristians must have for the poor etc.

THe "social Justice" claptrap has morphed from a feed the poor and defend the unborn to a, political redistribution movement ...more akin to socialism than anything else.