Muslim woman barred from boarding after she refuses body scan at airport

[The_Dude 1,142]

Terrorists will always find a way.

Those who sacrifice liberty for security, deserve neither.

Full body scans are not sacrificing your liberty for security. Maybe an inconvenience, but hardly an exchange of rights. Clever Franklin quote tho.

Sorry, I just am not that shy about someone seeing an "outline" of my junk on a monitor. I despise the extra wait that it takes, and I may not like the full body scaners, but if it prevents someone from getting onto a plane with explosives sewn into his g-string, i'll put up with the inconvenience.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

Full body scans are not sacrificing your liberty for security. Maybe an inconvenience, but hardly an exchange of rights. Clever Franklin quote tho.

Sorry, I just am not that shy about someone seeing an "outline" of my junk on a monitor. I despise the extra wait that it takes, and I may not like the full body scaners, but if it prevents someone from getting onto a plane with explosives sewn into his g-string, i'll put up with the inconvenience.

Being airports are private institutions, and being that the FAA regulates them, technically speaking full body scanners (or any searches without cause) are a violation of the 4th amendment.

It'd be a completely different fish if the airport were completely private and an airline chose to do the scans, but seeing as it's the government doing them, it makes a difference.

Either way though, some of those scans are very revealing and some don't want joe blow viewing their bodies. Be if for religious reasons, be it for privacy reasons, be it for principle of the matter of being accused of something before being shown guilty.

We have become a paranoid group of sheep who do whatever our guberment wants in the name of 'security' without just cause....

Of course, terrorists will always upgrade. See: Bomb breast implants.... - What's next, legally being able to grope women's breasts?

FFS. where does it stop.

Oh and the quote isn't a Franklin quote, it's a mid 18th century quote by an anonymous party actually. Somehow it got tagged to Franklin though by people trying to think that made a difference by who said it...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Why good for her? Let's let all muslim women forego security screening?

ONE muslim woman does not equate to ALL muslim women, nor can it be assumed that ALL muslim women going through airport security will behave in the same way and refuse to be screened.

The fact that this woman is muslim is really immaterial at the end of the day, there's only a story about it because of the unstated assumption that she only refused the scan because she had something to hide.

[ghallett 0]

It's NOT immaterial when the very first line of the first post says she refused for religious reasons.

[Craneman 2]

Why does this need to read Muslim woman.

I'm sure there are others who have refused to be scanned, but they are not news worthy.

[DanielParul 50]

Why does this need to read Muslim woman.

I'm sure there are others who have refused to be scanned, but they are not news worthy.

Exactly

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Being airports are private institutions, and being that the FAA regulates them, technically speaking full body scanners (or any searches without cause) are a violation of the 4th amendment.

It'd be a completely different fish if the airport were completely private and an airline chose to do the scans, but seeing as it's the government doing them, it makes a difference.

Either way though, some of those scans are very revealing and some don't want joe blow viewing their bodies. Be if for religious reasons, be it for privacy reasons, be it for principle of the matter of being accused of something before being shown guilty.

We have become a paranoid group of sheep who do whatever our guberment wants in the name of 'security' without just cause....

Of course, terrorists will always upgrade. See: Bomb breast implants.... - What's next, legally being able to grope women's breasts?

FFS. where does it stop.

Oh and the quote isn't a Franklin quote, it's a mid 18th century quote by an anonymous party actually. Somehow it got tagged to Franklin though by people trying to think that made a difference by who said it...

You make some good points. I'm not sure though, how to make it safer to fly without these unfortunate precautionary measures. If they are better ways that are more dignified, I'm all ears.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

It's NOT immaterial when the very first line of the first post says she refused for religious reasons.

What difference does that make? Why is it important that she cited religious reasons (as much as "I don't want some random dude to see my fur burger" could possibly amount to a religious reason)?

The only reason there is a story about this is because it involves a muslim woman. If the headline was just "woman refuses body scan" noone would care.

[CDAgirlMI 51]

Why does this need to read Muslim woman.

I'm sure there are others who have refused to be scanned, but they are not news worthy.

Of course.

But let's not ignore the elephant in the room here & ask "why do we take these extreme measures" with airport security?

Because individuals that happen to be of muslim religion were involved in "plots"

The media is going to jump all over muslim people that have problems travelling.

(like the case of the muslim Canadian woman who got refused entry into the US to visit her husband. She calls it descrimination, while others call it "not enough ties to home". Yet it was news-worthy)

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Why does this need to read Muslim woman.

I'm sure there are others who have refused to be scanned, but they are not news worthy.

I'll educate you and the other politically correct moes.

Many Muslim women cover at least their hair. Some more, Some less. Therefore, full nude body scans are way outside what's considered allowable by most. Picture a terrorist strapping on a bomb, rufusing a scan and getting a pass for religious reasons.

The surah 24:30-31 say:[7]

And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss; [...] (Qur'an 24:31)

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I'll educate you and the other politically correct moes.

Many Muslim women cover at least their hair. Some more, Some less. Therefore, full nude body scans are way outside what's considered allowable by most. Picture a terrorist strapping on a bomb, rufusing a scan and getting a pass for religious reasons.

She didn't get a pass though, she wasn't allowed on the plane. Her choice.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I agree with the woman. When the UK made the body scanner mandatory I was surprised. I'm not anti-security, but they could have created an alternative search system for people that object.

This woman, for instance, could have been taken to private room and searched by another female. Or they could have a private scanner operated by a female.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I agree with the woman. When the UK made the body scanner mandatory I was surprised. I'm not anti-security, but they could have created an alternative search system for people that object.

This woman, for instance, could have been taken to private room and searched by another female. Or they could have a private scanner operated by a female.

I would have thought that they would have something like that in place, I wonder if its just a matter of bureaucracy "body scan or else".

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I would have thought that they would have something like that in place, I wonder if its just a matter of bureaucracy "body scan or else".

I think its partially to streamline security and cut costs.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I think its partially to streamline security and cut costs.

Of course, its not like they can screen every passenger without bringing the air travel system to a standstill. Most of this stuff is just for show.