Debra Medina, new star of America's right, is firing up the race for Texas governor

[Ban Hammer 13,716]

The teabagger agenda here is to essentially upend what it means to be a modern society.

and all this time i thought it was the left that was supposed to be anti-establishment.

[Obama 2012 1,714]

You doubt it? I think it is pretty simple. The middle ground in terms of the relationship between state and federal government is pretty much the status quo, maintaining the independence of states within the status of the federation. The extremes are, cessation of states (The US needs Texas more than Texas needs the US) and elimination of state status - not sure anyone is advocating that within US politics but it is the other end of the spectrum.

Maybe in your state it works that way, but Texans have always been one in their own because we know what we have and we know what we don't have....

We're one of those states that sees our gas taxes going to Washington and we only get a 90% return on them, and even that is because we had to fight damn hard to get that much back. That's just one example...

The biggest problem we have in Texas is the Federal Government. The second biggest problem is transplants who understand nothing about the reason why they moved here and who try and change our politics.

There's a damn good reason why the recession hit here later than everyone else and it's because of the way we do things on a state level.

I'm not advocating for Secession mind you. The only thing I advocate is more Federal accountability and until that happens, we will always have our mentality.

Of course I suppose most people have ignored those many states who have been pushing through State Sovereignty bills. The mainstream likes to ignore such things. It's amusing when other states start thinking like Texans and we get called the extreme ones.

[Peikko 1,575]

Maybe in your state it works that way, but Texans have always been one in their own because we know what we have and we know what we don't have....

We're one of those states that sees our gas taxes going to Washington and we only get a 90% return on them, and even that is because we had to fight damn hard to get that much back. That's just one example...

The biggest problem we have in Texas is the Federal Government. The second biggest problem is transplants who understand nothing about the reason why they moved here and who try and change our politics.

There's a damn good reason why the recession hit here later than everyone else and it's because of the way we do things on a state level.

I'm not advocating for Secession mind you. The only thing I advocate is more Federal accountability and until that happens, we will always have our mentality.

Of course I suppose most people have ignored those many states who have been pushing through State Sovereignty bills. The mainstream likes to ignore such things. It's amusing when other states start thinking like Texans and we get called the extreme ones.

You seem to be having trouble with the concepts. Either the US is a federation, or it isn't and the states don't get to choose the 'level of participation' in the Federation, which is what you appear to be suggesting - you are either in, or you are out. If you believe in the concept of a federation, you believe in it warts and all, that's how it works. Do you, or do you not?

Edited February 28, 2010 by Madame Cleo

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At almost any Tea Party event it is easy to meet Truthers or Birthers or those who believe Obama is a closet Stalinist or a Nazi or a Muslim fundamentalist or indeed all three together, no matter how blindingly contradictory such beliefs are.

What a swell bunch.

Here's my idea of what a Texas governor should look like

[Obama 2012 1,714]

You seem to be having trouble with the concepts. Either the US is a federation, or it isn't and the states don't get to choose the 'level of participation' in the Federation, which is what you appear to be suggesting - you are either in, or you are out. If you believe in the concept of a federation, you believe in it warts and all, that's how it works. Do you, or do you not?

Ah, but the rules of the Federal Government are set forth in the constitution.

Anything beyond the 'limited' powers given to the Federal Government is supposed to be left up to the individual states.

We're all for the 'Federal Government' so long as they stay within their boundaries.

[Peikko 1,575]

Ah, but the rules of the Federal Government are set forth in the constitution.

Anything beyond the 'limited' powers given to the Federal Government is supposed to be left up to the individual states.

We're all for the 'Federal Government' so long as they stay within their boundaries.

So, your position is that what the Federal Government is doing now is illegal? And you don't think that's an extreme view?

[Obama 2012 1,714]

So, your position is that what the Federal Government is doing now is illegal? And you don't think that's an extreme view?

Are you serious?

No, I don't consider supporting the Constitution an extreme view.