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Should the validity period for a conditional green card be changed?

Conditional green card validity length: too long? Not enough?  

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  1. 1. How long should the conditional green card be valid for?

    • 1 year
      4
    • 2 years (current)
      10
    • 3 years (naturalization eligibility for spouses)
      26
    • 4 years
      3
    • 5 years (general naturalization eligibility)
      0
    • More than 5 years, less than 10 years
      0
    • The conditional green card should be eliminated for a full green card
      3
  2. 2. If you have naturalized, when did you (or your non-USC spouse) pursue naturalization?

    • Not yet eligible for naturalization, but intend to pursue naturalization.
      24
    • Not yet eligible for naturalization, and do not intend to pursue naturalization.
      2
    • Not yet eligible for naturalization, and have not decided.
      5
    • Eligible for naturalization, but have not pursued it yet
      4
    • Eligible for naturalization and do not intend to pursue it
      0
    • Eligible for naturalization and have not decided
      1
    • Naturalized within 1 year of eligibility
      9
    • Naturalized between 1-2 years of eligibility
      1
    • Naturalized between 2-5 years of eligibility
      0
    • Naturalized after being eligible for 5 or more years
      0


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Filed: Country: Brazil
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Posted (edited)

One of the things that strikes me as silly about the conditional green card is the amount of time it's valid for, given that naturalization is an option after 3 years of marriage to a USC and at least 18 months of residence. For those that take the immediate citizenship route from a K1 visa, lifting conditions for a 10 year visa really becomes $545 expense for a one year extension (plus processing time for naturalization).

To me, it makes more sense to make the conditional green card last 3 years, and then give the options to lift the conditions for a full 10 year green cad OR pursue naturalization. It would eliminate the paperwork (and expense) of lifting conditions for those that intend to naturalize as soon as possible.

ETA: for the second question, if you don't have a green card yet because you're on a K visa, you should be voting under "not yet eligible" :P

Edited by K and L

I-129F Petition Mailed: 26 Oct 2009 ♥ NOA1: 27 Oct 2009 ♥ NOA2: 15 Jan 2010

K-1 VisaNVC: 22-27 Jan 2010 ♥ RdJ receipt: 1 Feb 2010 ♥ Packet 3/4: 12 Feb 2010 ♥ Interview: 4 May 2010

»-(¯`·.·´¯)-> Married (17 Aug 2010) <-(¯`·.·´¯)-«

AOS (I-485)Mailed: 21 Aug 2010 ♥ NOA: 2 Sept 2010 ♥ To CSC: 20 Sept 2010 ♥ Biometrics: 5 Oct 2010 ♥ RFE: 10 -16 Nov 2010 ♥ Approved: 18 Nov 2010

AP (I-131)Mailed: 21 Aug 2010 ♥ NOA: 2 Sept 2010 ♥ Approved: 20 Oct 2010

EAD (I-765)Mailed: 21 Aug 2010 ♥ NOA: 2 Sept 2010 ♥ Biometrics: 5 Oct 2010 ♥ Approved: 20 Oct 2010

ROC (I-751)Mailed: 6 Nov 2012 ♥ NOA: 7 Nov 2012 ♥ Biometrics: 5 Dec 2012 ♥ Approved: 15 May 2013

Naturalization (N-400)Mailed: 03 August 2015 ♥ NOA: 07 August 2015 ♥ Biometrics: 3 Sept 2015 ♥ Interview: 13 Nov 2015 ♥ Oath: 8 Dec '15

Posted

  1. 4 years (spouse-eligibility + 1)
  2. both cases naturalised within 1 year of eligibilty (I was eligible as of 2004, naturalised by April 2005; Pras eligible as of July 2009, naturalisation will be completed 2010/03/18)

2005/07/10 I-129F filed for Pras

2005/11/07 I-129F approved, forwarded to NVC--to Chennai Consulate 2005/11/14

2005/12/02 Packet-3 received from Chennai

2005/12/21 Visa Interview Date

2006/04/04 Pras' entry into US at DTW

2006/04/15 Church Wedding at Novi (Detroit suburb), MI

2006/05/01 AOS Packet (I-485/I-131/I-765) filed at Chicago

2006/08/23 AP and EAD approved. Two down, 1.5 to go

2006/10/13 Pras' I-485 interview--APPROVED!

2006/10/27 Pras' conditional GC arrives -- .5 to go (2 yrs to Conditions Removal)

2008/07/21 I-751 (conditions removal) filed

2008/08/22 I-751 biometrics completed

2009/06/18 I-751 approved

2009/07/03 10-year GC received; last 0.5 done!

2009/07/23 Pras files N-400

2009/11/16 My 46TH birthday, Pras N-400 approved

2010/03/18 Pras' swear-in

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
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One of the things that strikes me as silly about the conditional green card is the amount of time it's valid for, given that naturalization is an option after 3 years of marriage to a USC and at least 18 months of residence. For those that take the immediate citizenship route from a K1 visa, lifting conditions for a 10 year visa really becomes $545 expense for a one year extension (plus processing time for naturalization).

To me, it makes more sense to make the conditional green card last 3 years, and then give the options to lift the conditions for a full 10 year green cad OR pursue naturalization. It would eliminate the paperwork (and expense) of lifting conditions for those that intend to naturalize as soon as possible.

ETA: for the second question, if you don't have a green card yet because you're on a K visa, you should be voting under "not yet eligible" :P

Good question.

It is a waste of our money to remove conditions if we plan on applying for citizenship in a few months. But since when has USCIS worried about OUR finances except for them to know our salaries for I-864s and such.. :wacko:

11/2004 - Met in Brazil

09/2006 - Apply for K1

03/2007 - K1 approved

04/2007 - Apply for AOS & EAD

07/2007 - EAD approved

01/2008 - Conditional Residency approved

11/2009 - Apply to remove conditions

02/2010 - Permanent Residency approved

11/2010 - Apply for Citizenship

03/2011 - Citizenship approved

07/2011 - Moved back to Brazil

Filed: Country: Philippines
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Posted
One of the things that strikes me as silly about the conditional green card is the amount of time it's valid for, given that naturalization is an option after 3 years of marriage to a USC and at least 18 months of residence. For those that take the immediate citizenship route from a K1 visa, lifting conditions for a 10 year visa really becomes $545 expense for a one year extension (plus processing time for naturalization).

To me, it makes more sense to make the conditional green card last 3 years, and then give the options to lift the conditions for a full 10 year green cad OR pursue naturalization. It would eliminate the paperwork (and expense) of lifting conditions for those that intend to naturalize as soon as possible.

ETA: for the second question, if you don't have a green card yet because you're on a K visa, you should be voting under "not yet eligible" :P

But conditional 2 year Green Cards only apply to K-1 visas (correct me if I'm wrong). If you don't want to pay again for a 10 year Green Card, then perhaps going through CR-1/IR-1 visa process would be a better choice. From what I understood, a K-1 is a non-immigrant visa that allows a USC to bring over a foreigner they intend to marry. They are granted 90 days to do so and then must then adjust status, but since it is a recent marriage, immigration gives a temporary 2 year Green Card at which point, the marriage is evaluated before granting permanent residency. Your spouse doesn't necessarily have to give up their prior citizenship to live here, which is a good thing, IMO.

Filed: Other Country: Canada
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But conditional 2 year Green Cards only apply to K-1 visas (correct me if I'm wrong). If you don't want to pay again for a 10 year Green Card, then perhaps going through CR-1/IR-1 visa process would be a better choice. From what I understood, a K-1 is a non-immigrant visa that allows a USC to bring over a foreigner they intend to marry. They are granted 90 days to do so and then must then adjust status, but since it is a recent marriage, immigration gives a temporary 2 year Green Card at which point, the marriage is evaluated before granting permanent residency. Your spouse doesn't necessarily have to give up their prior citizenship to live here, which is a good thing, IMO.

not true..

you get a conditional 2 year green card if you have been married less then 2 years regardless if you went the CR1 route or the K1 route..

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Filed: Other Country: India
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Posted

I'm picking 1 year. The reason is because I remember when my husband had the conditional GC, certain places treated it different than a real GC which limits options sometimes.

He has had the 10 year GC for over 2 years now and has been eligible for naturalization for a couple years, but hasn't applied. So it would be a pain if he had a conditional GC for 3 years when he didn't intend to apply for naturalization after 3 years. (May apply one day, not sure when).

Married since 9-18-04(All K1 visa & GC details in timeline.)

Ishu tum he mere Prabhu:::Jesus you are my Lord

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Posted

I think the current 2 years is alright time for conditional green card and then applying for ROC. Not all foreign spouses or family members want to become citizens. Some will just remove conditions and keep their GC ( I do though) More sense of security that way. Specially with a USC hubby and child it makes more sense.

Filed: Country: Philippines
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I think the current 2 years is alright time for conditional green card and then applying for ROC. Not all foreign spouses or family members want to become citizens. Some will just remove conditions and keep their GC ( I do though) More sense of security that way. Specially with a USC hubby and child it makes more sense.

Great post and great photos of your family, Parul. :thumbs::star:

Posted

Just remove the 3 year eligibility rule for naturalization and make it 5 years for everyone.

05/16/2005 I-129F Sent

05/28/2005 I-129F NOA1

06/21/2005 I-129F NOA2

07/18/2005 Consulate Received package from NVC

11/09/2005 Medical

11/16/2005 Interview APPROVED

12/05/2005 Visa received

12/07/2005 POE Minneapolis

12/17/2005 Wedding

12/20/2005 Applied for SSN

01/14/2005 SSN received in the mail

02/03/2006 AOS sent (Did not apply for EAD or AP)

02/09/2006 NOA

02/16/2006 Case status Online

05/01/2006 Biometrics Appt.

07/12/2006 AOS Interview APPROVED

07/24/2006 GC arrived

05/02/2007 Driver's License - Passed Road Test!

05/27/2008 Lifting of Conditions sent (TSC > VSC)

06/03/2008 Check Cleared

07/08/2008 INFOPASS (I-551 stamp)

07/08/2008 Driver's License renewed

04/20/2009 Lifting of Conditions approved

04/28/2009 Card received in the mail

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Posted

I say 3 years, or let those with marriage based green cards apply for naturalization after the current 2 years.

K-1 journey, AOS/EAD and ROC in my timeline

2011 March 31 - Sent off Naturalization pkg overnight to Texas

2011 April 1 - Arrived in Texas at 10:21 am

2011 April 1 - NOA (rec'd via snail mail April 8)

2011 April 7 - Cheque cashed

2011 May 5 - Biometrics (letter rec'd via snail mail April 15)

2011 May 9 - Placed in line for interview scheduling

2011 June 13 - Rec'd yellow letter (no change in status online)

2011 June 23 - Rec'd text that my case has been scheduled for interview

2011 August 1 - Interview (rec'd via snail mail June 27) PASSED

2011 August 3 - Rec'd email that my case has been scheduled for Oath

2011 September 1 - Oath ceremony (rec'd snail mail Aug 5)

2011 September 1 - All done, yeah.

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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I like the 3 year option, and then you are eligible either to apply for citizenship or apply for the 10 year green card. Both options can combine the current removal of conditions process. It seems like a nicely functional approach - which is probably why Congress and USCIS won't consider it.

“...Isn't it splendid to think of all the things there are to find out about? It just makes me feel glad to be alive--it's such an interesting world. It wouldn't be half so interesting if we knew all about everything, would it? There'd be no scope for imagination then, would there?”

. Lucy Maude Montgomery, Anne of Green Gables

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Moldova
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i like it the way it is...i think 2 years is good for USCIS to see if somebody is committing a fraud or not...

GOD is Good,GOD is Great,GOD is Awesome!

*K1*(process time 7months & 13days)*

12.11.2007 -Filed I-129F

07.24.2008 -VISA interview. APPROVED!!!

*AOS*(process time 7months & 5days)*

11.26.2008 -Filed AOS,EAD,AP

02.09.2009- AP Received

03.20.2009-EAD Received

07.09.2009-2Year Green Card Received

*ROC*(process time 3months & 18days)*

04.04.2011-Filed ROC(I-751)

07.28.2011-10 Year GC Received

*NATURALIZATION*(process time 4months & 27days)*

04/02/2014- Filed N-400

07/08/14-Interview (Recommended for Approval)

08/29/2014-Oath Ceremony

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I like the 3 year option, and then you are eligible either to apply for citizenship or apply for the 10 year green card. Both options can combine the current removal of conditions process. It seems like a nicely functional approach - which is probably why Congress and USCIS won't consider it.

USCIS will do whatever it's instructed to do.

Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is.

 

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