Obama: Bipartisan health deal may not be possible

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Someone on VJ once told me the US Constitution is an outdated document written 2 centuries ago by a bunch of irrelevant old geezers. I'm much too senile to remember who it was that said that, but of course it couldn't be the same someone who's now quoting the preamble to said document.....

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(Abe Lincoln) Filthy story teller :lol:

[Matt&Cui 0]

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America"

What about this one?

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Someone on VJ once told me the US Constitution is an outdated document written 2 centuries ago by a bunch of irrelevant old geezers. I'm much too senile to remember who it was that said that, but of course it couldn't be the same someone who's now quoting the preamble to said document.....

Absolutely not. You are senile.

[Matt&Cui 0]

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America"

What about this one?

ha

[Ali G. 37]

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America"

What about this one?

Nearly missed that, in this example, securing liberty in terms of being able to live free of corporate tyranny, from profit driven insurance companies, and be able to ensure this freedom is accessible by all Americans.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Nearly missed that, in this example, securing liberty in terms of being able to live free of corporate tyranny, from profit driven insurance companies, and be able to ensure this freedom is accessible by all Americans.

You avoiding my question KANGA? Boooooooo!

Com-on lil boy come play with me, if you could just get a lil lower would be great.

[Ali G. 37]

Someone on VJ once told me the US Constitution is an outdated document written 2 centuries ago by a bunch of irrelevant old geezers. I'm much too senile to remember who it was that said that, but of course it couldn't be the same someone who's now quoting the preamble to said document.....

When discussing anything with Libertarians / constitutionalists, one must rely on this document.

Personally, I prefer the first world approach of discussing something in terms of merit and what is in the best interest for the people and the nation; in 2010 and beyond.

Edited February 26, 2010 by Booyah

[Ali G. 37]

You avoiding my question KANGA? Boooooooo!

Com-on lil boy come play with me, if you could just get a lil lower would be great.

Dude, its been said 100 times now, by January next year, we will be moving to AUS..

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Dude, its been said 100 times now, by January next year, we will be moving to AUS..

Thank god! Hopefully you will have a place to put your diapers. Maybe a yellow bin to put them. Or better yet! Maybe you quit chokin on cotton.

By the way your actin pretty WEAK!

Edited February 26, 2010 by Col. Lingus

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Personally, I prefer the first world approach of discussing something in terms of merit and what is in the best interest for the people and the nation; in 2010 and beyond.

Sure, but the discussion must take place within a pre-established framework that defines all stakeholders rights and responsibilities. That framework is the Constitution.

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Obama should have had the balls to push for nationalized healthcare. Surely if the Republicans could use hook and crook to do whatever the hell they liked during Bush's first term, the Democrats could have done likewise with this.

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Obama should have had the balls to push for nationalized healthcare. Surely if the Republicans could use hook and crook to do whatever the hell they liked during Bush's first term, the Democrats could have done likewise with this.

I don't think you'd have found much support for full nationalization, even in the Democratic party. My preferred solution has always been single-payer but where the actual providers of care are not government employees. I.E. the Canada model and not the UK model.

[Ali G. 37]

Thank god! Hopefully you will have a place to put your diapers. Maybe a yellow bin to put them. Or better yet! Maybe you quit chokin on cotton.

By the way your actin pretty WEAK!

Hey do you live in Clark County, Washington?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I don't think you'd have found much support for full nationalization, even in the Democratic party. My preferred solution has always been single-payer but where the actual providers of care are not government employees. I.E. the Canada model and not the UK model.

Yeah it would have gone down like a sack of $hit, but it at least would show that the guy had balls - and actually wanted to enact something that would radically change the landscape.

Instead he went all Tony Blair.