I'll admit it

[Brad and Vika 129]

Kinda sorta Brad. In 1996 they did, but it changed in 1998 to include places that primarily ONLY serve alcohol. If they also serve food, you can take your gun there.

Kentucky and Indiana are the only states I know of that recognize ALL states concealed carry licenses...including recognizing my Vermont driver's license as a valid concealed carry license!

Odd, when I got my CCW license here there was a fair amount of discussion about this. I seem to remember the instructor saying that you shouldn't carry anyplace that serves the demon whiskey. But I had a CCW in Wisconsin too, and having done zero research up to this point, maybe I am getting them confused. As you see from my posts, beyond home defense and occasionally carrying on the road for work, I couldn't care less. I wouldn't pack heat into a bar anymore than a school or courthouse, all jokes aside.

Here is a good reciprocity website CCW reciprocity

I went to another site for a summary of places you can't carry here. I found the following:

Any police station or sheriff's office;

Any prison, jail, or detention facility;

Any courthouse containing only courtrooms or any court proceeding;

Any meeting of the General Assembly, a committee of the General Assembly, or of the governing body of a county, city, or special district;

Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense beer or alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion is devoted primarily to that purpose;

Any elementary or secondary school facility without the consent of the school authorities;

Any child-care facility, day care center or certified family child care home;

Any area of an airport where people and property are inspected;

Any place where federal law prohibits it.

So it looks like you and my instructor were both right. Most places here serve alcohol throughout, so you are safer just not to carry in there. Also, I recall him telling me that sometimes the police misinterpret the CCW laws too, and the fact that they are wrong won't help you much while they are taking the weapon away from you - or worse.

[Gary and Alla 3,696]

Odd, when I got my CCW license here there was a fair amount of discussion about this. I seem to remember the instructor saying that you shouldn't carry anyplace that serves the demon whiskey. But I had a CCW in Wisconsin too, and having done zero research up to this point, maybe I am getting them confused. As you see from my posts, beyond home defense and occasionally carrying on the road for work, I couldn't care less. I wouldn't pack heat into a bar anymore than a school or courthouse, all jokes aside.

Here is a good reciprocity website CCW reciprocity

I went to another site for a summary of places you can't carry here. I found the following:

Any police station or sheriff's office;

Any prison, jail, or detention facility;

Any courthouse containing only courtrooms or any court proceeding;

Any meeting of the General Assembly, a committee of the General Assembly, or of the governing body of a county, city, or special district;

Any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense beer or alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion is devoted primarily to that purpose;

Any elementary or secondary school facility without the consent of the school authorities;

Any child-care facility, day care center or certified family child care home;

Any area of an airport where people and property are inspected;

Any place where federal law prohibits it.

So it looks like you and my instructor were both right. Most places here serve alcohol throughout, so you are safer just not to carry in there. Also, I recall him telling me that sometimes the police misinterpret the CCW laws too, and the fact that they are wrong won't help you much while they are taking the weapon away from you - or worse.

Well, police do misinterpret laws, no doubt. Once they changed the law in Kentucky I started carrying in Restaraunts, even after they made alcohol legal in restaraunts where I lived (you know the Kentucky wierd, evil liquor laws). I didn't worry about it if was a food establishment that also served alcohol. I never went to places, or portions of places, that only served alcohol.

Vermont has no list of places you cannot carry. Federal law prohibits on federal property and schools. There is no state restriction at all, and no permit to revoke. But, unfortunatley, no permt to be reciprocal either. We have tried to get an optional permit here so people can have a permit to use in other states. Nothing doing, the legislature will not consider any kind of firearm regulation in Vermont. They are afraid the optional license will become mandatory and then become discrimanatory. A slippery slope!

It is their opinion all the other states should drop their permits also.

[slim 1,533]

I was working in Vincennes Indiana once, legally armed with my KY CCW and took a wrong turn heading back from lunch and went across a little bridge...into Illinois! It was like a cold war nightmare having suddenly found myself behind enemy lines. The mere act of driving across the bridge had converted me from "law abiding citizen" to "dangerous armed felon"

I quickly turned around and headed back to FREEDOM before the gestapo/KGB in Illinois saw me. Think about that in case you want to ponder the ridiculousness of fireamrs laws.

I went to MO about a month ago and legally carried in OH, IN.... then may have been a felon for about three hours while traveling through occupied territory.... and was back to being a good, law-abiding citizen again for the rest of my trip in MO.

[Gary and Alla 3,696]

I went to MO about a month ago and legally carried in OH, IN.... then may have been a felon for about three hours while traveling through occupied territory.... and was back to being a good, law-abiding citizen again for the rest of my trip in MO.

Yes, you were. Illionois made it a felony to carry a concealed weapon a few years ago. Had been a misdemeanor. But then they figured out that if they charged you with a felony and even f the plea bargained the charge to probation (they really had no plan to put these people in prison for a year+) they could take away your right to own firearms

I predict some changes coming in Illinois in the next few years after the McDonald ruling later this year.

[Brad and Vika 129]

I went to MO about a month ago and legally carried in OH, IN.... then may have been a felon for about three hours while traveling through occupied territory.... and was back to being a good, law-abiding citizen again for the rest of my trip in MO.

I used to shoot at an indoor range in the next state over. I can't remember if it was Virginia while living in Tennessee or North Carolina while living in South Carolina, as I move around a bit. Anyway, the state I was drving to required the gun to be in plain sight, and the state I was coming from required it to be concealed. It felt strange throwing the gun up on the dash when I crossed the state line. Also weird knowing that if I left it there on the way back there would be a problem.

[slim 1,533]

Gotta love the "common sense" gun legislation.

[Brad and Vika 129]

Eureka! My wife actually seems to want to look at some cute ladyguns. For protection, not as a fashion accessory. Suggestions?

[Casper&Diana 0]

Hey all. At Captain Martyshk's suggestion I'm slowly graduating from the "December Filers" forum to this. Looks like a tough group. Be gentle!

I had to laugh at the "speak 'mer'can" comments. My production manager is from Southampton, England and married to a Yank. Sometimes when he gets going in his accent I just stop him and say, 'dammit Mark, could you please just speak English?!'

~Casper

[Casper&Diana 0]

Hello All, (Hm, my first post didn't, well, post.) I'm new here. At Captain Martyshk's suggestion, I'm just graduating out of the 'December Filers' forum. Seems like a tough group. Be gentle!

I was laughing at the "speak 'Mer'can" comments. My production manager is from Southampton England and married to a Yank. Sometimes he gets going in his accent and I look at him and say, 'dammit Mark, can't you just speak English?!'

He doesn't think it's as funny as I do.

~Casper

[Cixelsyd 1]

Hello All, (Hm, my first post didn't, well, post.) I'm new here. At Captain Martyshk's suggestion, I'm just graduating out of the 'December Filers' forum. Seems like a tough group. Be gentle!

It's only been brutal lately. Used to be more about having structured debates.

Fortunately when it comes to having your questions answered, you'll find sensible people are the ones to respond and almost always have a very good solution for you.

[Martyshk 137]

Hello All, (Hm, my first post didn't, well, post.) I'm new here. At Captain Martyshk's suggestion, I'm just graduating out of the 'December Filers' forum. Seems like a tough group. Be gentle!

Hey Casper. Glad to see you made it to RUB forum.

[Casper&Diana 0]

Thank you all!

[visaveteran 0]

It's only been brutal lately. Used to be more about having structured debates.

Fortunately when it comes to having your questions answered, you'll find sensible people are the ones to respond and almost always have a very good solution for you.

Coming from a one year Rookie, you're presumptuous to act like a long-term expert here in characterizing the forum. This forum has always been brutal. Diversity of thought is only unwelcome by the sheep-like posters who all "baaahh" to the same tune.

And what the hell is a "structured debate?"

Edited April 9, 2010 by visaveteran

[Brad and Vika 129]

Hello All, (Hm, my first post didn't, well, post.) I'm new here. At Captain Martyshk's suggestion, I'm just graduating out of the 'December Filers' forum. Seems like a tough group. Be gentle!

I was laughing at the "speak 'Mer'can" comments. My production manager is from Southampton England and married to a Yank. Sometimes he gets going in his accent and I look at him and say, 'dammit Mark, can't you just speak English?!'

He doesn't think it's as funny as I do.

~Casper

Welcome! Sit back and prepare to be entertained, or join the discussion. Happy to have you.

[Hellzbelz 0]

Shaun of the dead does rock.

And on the "speak English" comment... I've got a f'n redneck idiot in my office who made a bright comment during one of our company lucheons concerning some immigrant conversation he was in, "You're in America now, speak American!". After which I looked over to my Belguim immigrant engineer and said, "Yeah Tom, can't you speak American!?" And then to the Filipino immigrant drafter I was sitting next to, "Damnit Eddie, don't you understand American?!". That's our office joke now.

Too funny! I work with three therapists from the phillipines and 1 therapist from Croatia, but everyone else is a redneck :-) I live in Richmond where everyone has a pickup and a gun rack...and don't forget the confederate flag flown proudly! My co-workers know about Irina and this whole waiting game for the Visa and they know she is from Russia. I get more stupid questions than you would hear at the DMV; "Does she have indoor plumbing?" C'mon, are you serious??!! That one is my favorite! Here's another one, "Does she see a lot of bears?" ???!!! I just tell them that she walks once per day to the center of the city where the bears like to gather because she likes to feed them bread crumbs and watch them play with the children. Amazing!

Jim