Israel's immigrant children fight deportation

[Peikko 1,575]

Uh huh. You must think homeless people in the mall are endearing and charming

Why? Are we talking homeless drug addicts or homeless with mental issues? Genearlly speaking, they are not intrusive, not where I live anyway. Is that your definition of 'the poor' in this context?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Why? Are we talking homeless drug addicts or homeless with mental issues? Genearlly speaking, they are not intrusive, not where I live anyway. Is that your definition of 'the poor' in this context?

We're talking about the poor. Homeless people are an example of that population.

[scandal 951]

What does any of this have to do with Israel's immigrant children fight deportation?

I don't like this thread very much and will continue to ignore it. Except I just posted in it again. Oh well.

[Peikko 1,575]

They are more visible than the average poor person, that's true. Generally speaking, when one walks about, one has little idea of who is and who isn't poor - the poor are no longer the great unwashed as they were in the Dickensian era

Edited February 27, 2010 by Madame Cleo

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

What does any of this have to do with Israel's immigrant children fight deportation?

I don't like this thread very much and will continue to ignore it. Except I just posted in it again. Oh well.

Threads, like societies, evolve.

[scandal 951]

Threads, like societies, evolve.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

They are more visible than the average poor person, that's true. Geerally speaking, when one walks about, one has little idea of who is and who isn't poor - the poor are no longer the great unwashed as they were in the Dickensian era

Poor people who manage to "fit in" and not cause problems aren't a problem. But by and large, large concentrations of poor people don't lend themselves to that. They stick out, and in ways that make life in those parts undesirable.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

Poor people who manage to "fit in" and not cause problems aren't a problem. But by and large, large concentrations of poor people don't lend themselves to that. They stick out, and in ways that make life in those parts undesirable.

I'm still waiting for your vacation thread.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I'm still waiting for your vacation thread.

I can't write that much.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

I can't write that much.

How about a few of the more interesting experiences?

[Peikko 1,575]

In my experience, poor people are not necessarily disorganized or dirty - some other factor has to play a part in order for disintigration to be a feature of poverty. I would imagine that in some areas, the housing that is designated for the poor is not as well tended as it would be for a more affluent tenant/owner. Whether this is simply a function of the fact that the rents are so low there would be no profit in keeping up appearances, or whether other more complicating factors are at play, it's not for me to say, although being me, I suspect the latter.

[scandal 951]

How about a few of the more interesting experiences?

He experienced a lot of poverty. India has tons of it.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

In my experience, poor people are not necessarily disorganized or dirty - some other factor has to play a part in order for disintigration to be a feature of poverty. I would imagine that in some areas, the housing that is designated for the poor is not as well tended as it would be for a more affluent tenant/owner. Whether this is simply a function of the fact that the rents are so low there would be no profit in keeping up appearances, or whether other more complicating factors are at play, it's not for me to say, although being me, I suspect the latter.

Towns around here with more poor people also have more crime. Violent crime, public urination, drunken fights outside clubs, etc. Sometimes an entrepreneur will open a business in a nicer town that has a target demographic that lives in "those" towns. An example near me would have been a hip hop dance club with no cover. It got shut down after 2 weeks and is now relocated back into the hood where it operates with impunity. Why was it shut down? Because their "customers" don't know how to party without being loud and starting fights on the streets. That may be acceptable behavior in their town, but it isn't here. Both towns are very racially diverse but my town has taxes up the wazoo so if you're gonna live here you can afford it. That makes for a quiet, peaceful place to live with good schools.

He experienced a lot of poverty. India has tons of it.

Don't get me started. The Indian poor need to be shot.

[Peikko 1,575]

I don't doubt what you say, but the fact is that being a criminal is not a function of being poor. Other factors have to come into play for someone to engange in loutish or crimnal behaviour.

I guess we could have poor culling licenses. I am sure there's not a few red blooded conservatives who would relish a day out shooting poor people.

Edited February 27, 2010 by Madame Cleo

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I don't doubt what you say, but the fact is that being a criminal is not a function of being poor. Other factors have to come into play for someone to engange in loutish or crimnal behaviour.

Being criminal is not a function of being poor. However, the kind of crime that is disruptive to normal civic behavior (violent crime, public drunkenness, etc.) does occur much more in communities with larger concentrations of poor people. I don't care to analyze why, I leave that to the sociologists.