K1 Visa Interview

[mainman 0]

So, then what else did you not tell the truth about? The question is rhetorical but this is what the Consular officer is likely to think. The petition asks a question to be answered by the US Citizen petitioner. It is a clear question saying, "13. List all children of your alien fiancé(e) (if any)". He listed no children. The consular officer will wonder if you neglected to mention the child to your fiance, conspired with him to withhold information or simply misunderstood the question. Be ready with a truthful explanation for this and anything else they ask, since you already put up a big red flag saying, I'm not concerned about accuracy or truth.

Pushbrk,

You know,your responses seem to reflect a huge absence of civility.This forum is supposed to be enlightening and constructive,but you seem to perpetuate blatant rudeness and misconceptions.Why do you think I was not being truthful by not including my fiancees child;I included the child we have together!Have you thought maybe I just don't want his biological father in our lives? Maybe Nigerian consulate is corrupt,but who made you a judge and what country is not corrupt?If you need a therapist to help you love you and boost your ego,I can recommend one for you because obviously, you get nasty with others to make you seem relevant.

[mainman 0]

Well said Couscous and ApplePie. I hope your words are not lost on the OP.

Well I understand it sounds harsh,but the dad is so much trouble.Called Dept of State and they said it should not be a problem since the child wasn't coming to the U.S. Interview is next week. Somebody wish me luck.

[Calypso 464]

Pushbrk,

You know,your responses seem to reflect a huge absence of civility.This forum is supposed to be enlightening and constructive,but you seem to perpetuate blatant rudeness and misconceptions.Why do you think I was not being truthful by not including my fiancees child;I included the child we have together!Have you thought maybe I just don't want his biological father in our lives? Maybe Nigerian consulate is corrupt,but who made you a judge and what country is not corrupt?If you need a therapist to help you love you and boost your ego,I can recommend one for you because obviously, you get nasty with others to make you seem relevant.

Perhaps you can show Pushbrk even a little gratitude. As what has been written previously, the form asks you to list your fiancee's child/children even if you don't intend to petition them or get them a visa. That's the main point.

Enjoy the rest of the journey.

[SunDrop 59]

Why do you think I was not being truthful by not including my fiancees child;I included the child we have together!

Because she gave birth to him, out of the same place your children with her sprung, and it clearly says 'List all your fiancee's children' not the ones that the petitioner has fathered with his fiancee.

It's not our place to pass judgement on you or your fiancee. All I'm going to say is I hope his finds it in his heart, and God forgives you for so arrogantly ripping his mother away from him. And her for allowing it.

USA to Nigeria is a long way. Just how much involvement in the child's life is his biological father realistically going to have? My child is not my fiance's. He doesn't particularly like my ex husband, my child's father, but he knows that in the grand scheme of things, my ex is going to have very little do with him. He's aware that he is going to be the main paternal figure in her life, and frankly, is very proud of that fact. He believes, rightly so, that he is capable of offering her more as a father than her biological one can. She adores him, respects him and is contemplating without prompting of any kind if she can start calling him Dad without it being wierd. She's 10.

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

It's not our place to pass judgement on you or your fiancee. All I'm going to say is I hope his finds it in his heart, and God forgives you for so arrogantly ripping his mother away from him. And her for allowing it.

So, I'm not going to judge you, but I'm going to judge you anyway in a passive aggressive manner anyway, and throw in a jab at your fiancee too? Just trying to get this straight.

[DanielParul 50]

Can't judge the OP. If the child's mother is so willingly abandoning her child then there is little hope from anybody else.

[StillThePrettiest 3]

So, I'm not going to judge you, but I'm going to judge you anyway in a passive aggressive manner anyway, and throw in a jab at your fiancee too? Just trying to get this straight.

took the words out of my mouth

[Sara and Alex 1]

Have you thought maybe I just don't want his biological father in our lives?

I had to say something about this...

If you're marrying someone that has a child with someone else, that child's other parent is going to be in your life. Its something you sort of have to deal with when you go into a relationship with someone who has a child from previous relationships.

Just my two cents.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

Pushbrk,

You know,your responses seem to reflect a huge absence of civility.This forum is supposed to be enlightening and constructive,but you seem to perpetuate blatant rudeness and misconceptions.Why do you think I was not being truthful by not including my fiancees child;I included the child we have together!Have you thought maybe I just don't want his biological father in our lives? Maybe Nigerian consulate is corrupt,but who made you a judge and what country is not corrupt?If you need a therapist to help you love you and boost your ego,I can recommend one for you because obviously, you get nasty with others to make you seem relevant.

Pushbrk's response may have been harsh, but it seems like it was accurate. Most of us have made minor mistakes on some of the documents (let's face it - the instructions are pretty vague), and many people have accidentally omitted beneficiary's children from the I-129F, sometimes because they thought the children only needed to be listed if they were going to be applying for a derivative visa. If you thought that listing her son was optional, and that by not doing so you were preventing him from being eligible for a derivative visa, then you made an honest mistake. On the other hand, if you understand that the question requires you to list all children, and you intentionally omitted her son in an effort to deny him the opportunity to apply for a derivative visa, then you were dishonest. By your own admission, it seems like this was your intention.

You should probably understand that you do not petition for your fiancee's children. Their eligibility is derived from her eligibility. She can choose to submit a K2 visa application for her son. Short of withdrawing your petition, there's not much you can do to stop this. What you can do is refuse to provide an affidavit of support for her son. If you wanted, you could even send a letter to the consulate stating clearly that you have no intention of supporting her son. That would pretty much dead-end his visa application. At the consulate in Lagos, it could also dead-end HER visa application. They could easily conclude that the relationship is not legitimate because there is a lack of commitment by the petitioner for the beneficiary AND her family.

If she doesn't intend to submit a visa application for her son, but is including him on her documents because the forms require this information, then she's doing the right thing. Hopefully, the fact that you did not include him on the I-129F can be explained to the consulate as an honest mistake or misunderstanding of the form's requirements.

Pushbrk didn't state that the consulate in Lagos was corrupt. He said that it was the highest fraud consulate in the world. This means that they deal with more attempted visa fraud than any other consulate. It does NOT mean that there is any corruption within the consulate itself. It is notoriously difficult to get a visa out of that consulate, which means you can expect you will need to go above and beyond what most consulates would require in terms of completeness and accuracy of the documents you submit. Something that could easily be overlooked as a minor mistake at another consulate, such as an omission on the petition, could easily be used as grounds for a denial at the consulate in Lagos. I can easily imagine a consular officer saying to your fiancee "Your fiance doesn't know about your son. Your relationship is a sham." You don't want to give this consulate any ammunition to deny your case. Be prepared to address the discrepancy.

[TracyTN 237]

Pushbrk's response may have been harsh, but it seems like it was accurate. Most of us have made minor mistakes on some of the documents (let's face it - the instructions are pretty vague), and many people have accidentally omitted beneficiary's children from the I-129F, sometimes because they thought the children only needed to be listed if they were going to be applying for a derivative visa. If you thought that listing her son was optional, and that by not doing so you were preventing him from being eligible for a derivative visa, then you made an honest mistake. On the other hand, if you understand that the question requires you to list all children, and you intentionally omitted her son in an effort to deny him the opportunity to apply for a derivative visa, then you were dishonest. By your own admission, it seems like this was your intention.

You should probably understand that you do not petition for your fiancee's children. Their eligibility is derived from her eligibility. She can choose to submit a K2 visa application for her son. Short of withdrawing your petition, there's not much you can do to stop this. What you can do is refuse to provide an affidavit of support for her son. If you wanted, you could even send a letter to the consulate stating clearly that you have no intention of supporting her son. That would pretty much dead-end his visa application. At the consulate in Lagos, it could also dead-end HER visa application. They could easily conclude that the relationship is not legitimate because there is a lack of commitment by the petitioner for the beneficiary AND her family.

If she doesn't intend to submit a visa application for her son, but is including him on her documents because the forms require this information, then she's doing the right thing. Hopefully, the fact that you did not include him on the I-129F can be explained to the consulate as an honest mistake or misunderstanding of the form's requirements.

Pushbrk didn't state that the consulate in Lagos was corrupt. He said that it was the highest fraud consulate in the world. This means that they deal with more attempted visa fraud than any other consulate. It does NOT mean that there is any corruption within the consulate itself. It is notoriously difficult to get a visa out of that consulate, which means you can expect you will need to go above and beyond what most consulates would require in terms of completeness and accuracy of the documents you submit. Something that could easily be overlooked as a minor mistake at another consulate, such as an omission on the petition, could easily be used as grounds for a denial at the consulate in Lagos. I can easily imagine a consular officer saying to your fiancee "Your fiance doesn't know about your son. Your relationship is a sham." You don't want to give this consulate any ammunition to deny your case. Be prepared to address the discrepancy.

Well said!

[VisaJourneyLady 33]

All I'm going to say is I hope his finds it in his heart, and God forgives you for so arrogantly ripping his mother away from him. And her for allowing it.

This is low and uncalled for. God's forgiveness? What has that made-up magic sky-fairy got to do with this? And if there is a beardy sky-fairy, how do you presume to know if he thinks that the OP is in any need of forgiveness?

Look to your own life, think about how much any of us know if it, and then tell me that anyone on this forum knows enough about you to make a statement like that about your situation. Your child will be away from her father, this child will be with her father, how do you know what's best for this child? We don't know squat about you, we don't know squat about the OP, we can answer his questions with respect, or we can ignore completely. Anything else is rude, judgmental and entirely unnecessary.

Edited February 23, 2010 by Poiteen

[Kathryn41 3,205]

I will remind everyone that judgmental comments are unnecessary and offer nothing of value to the thread. If you cannot add anything useful for the OP, then do not add anything at all.

[mainman 0]

Pushbrk's response may have been harsh, but it seems like it was accurate. Most of us have made minor mistakes on some of the documents (let's face it - the instructions are pretty vague), and many people have accidentally omitted beneficiary's children from the I-129F, sometimes because they thought the children only needed to be listed if they were going to be applying for a derivative visa. If you thought that listing her son was optional, and that by not doing so you were preventing him from being eligible for a derivative visa, then you made an honest mistake. On the other hand, if you understand that the question requires you to list all children, and you intentionally omitted her son in an effort to deny him the opportunity to apply for a derivative visa, then you were dishonest. By your own admission, it seems like this was your intention.

You should probably understand that you do not petition for your fiancee's children. Their eligibility is derived from her eligibility. She can choose to submit a K2 visa application for her son. Short of withdrawing your petition, there's not much you can do to stop this. What you can do is refuse to provide an affidavit of support for her son. If you wanted, you could even send a letter to the consulate stating clearly that you have no intention of supporting her son. That would pretty much dead-end his visa application. At the consulate in Lagos, it could also dead-end HER visa application. They could easily conclude that the relationship is not legitimate because there is a lack of commitment by the petitioner for the beneficiary AND her family.

If she doesn't intend to submit a visa application for her son, but is including him on her documents because the forms require this information, then she's doing the right thing. Hopefully, the fact that you did not include him on the I-129F can be explained to the consulate as an honest mistake or misunderstanding of the form's requirements.

Pushbrk didn't state that the consulate in Lagos was corrupt. He said that it was the highest fraud consulate in the world. This means that they deal with more attempted visa fraud than any other consulate. It does NOT mean that there is any corruption within the consulate itself. It is notoriously difficult to get a visa out of that consulate, which means you can expect you will need to go above and beyond what most consulates would require in terms of completeness and accuracy of the documents you submit. Something that could easily be overlooked as a minor mistake at another consulate, such as an omission on the petition, could easily be used as grounds for a denial at the consulate in Lagos. I can easily imagine a consular officer saying to your fiancee "Your fiance doesn't know about your son. Your relationship is a sham." You don't want to give this consulate any ammunition to deny your case. Be prepared to address the discrepancy.

You are simply wonderful!Thank you.

[Lucky couple 1]

Well said Couscous and ApplePie. I hope your words are not lost on the OP.

Reading this post several days later still shocks me at your choice of words. This is a child and your Fiance's kid's dada may have been a ####### and u dont want anything to do with him, but how about the kid??? does ur fiance not want anything to do with her kid too? I had 3 kids when i came to US on K1. I love my husband very much and would have come alone and eventually worked on bringing my kids,but if I had suspected that he did not want anything to do with my kids because their biological father is a bad guy(he is!) I never would have agreed to it(NEVER!!). My kids(as most women) will always be a part of my life,living with me or not. shame on u!!

[KC99 0]

Main man, Lagos is a very tough consulate!! If you petition has been approved, perhaps you should consider sending your fiance an affidavit explaining the omission since you said its not deliberate., maybe one from the dad of the kid to state that he is aware that child is listed as a possible derivative of a k1. She should present those if needed. The affidavit might rectify the omission .The major thing is that it does not look "fishy" to the CO who sometimes have excessive levels of suspicion. Hopefully it will be ok.

Please consider the psychological effects that seperation and rejection will have on the child splitting her from her mum and siblings who are also your kids. A child's place is with d mother,as long as she is fit. Pls dont deprive the poor kid of that. Fatherhood goes beyond common genes, you can be the only dad she knows and loves, if you love and raise her as your own. It might not be a breeze & takes a high level of maturity which shouldn't be a problem. Your family will love and respect you for that. Good luck.