America's No. 1 Killer: Cardiovascular Disease. How Americanized do you really want to become?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

you really do have a complex about this don't you? Does your insurance cover mental health issues? Really Stephen, you should see someone about that insecurity thing. You made a mistake, no big deal. You admitted it. I moved on, why are you calling people at night and keep posting about this, dude, it is nothing really. Relax.

I talk with my Dad on a regular basis and happened to ask him since he's always someone I could go to ask about history. Math on the other hand, my Dad would turn and run the other way.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I haven't seen a link or post from the WHO, have you? where?

You mean you will trust someone that SAYS they have information over me? And that is supposed to make ME look bad?

ta ta for now. Hmmm. No post of data. Strange.

I thought you were an advocate for personal responsibility. Why are you asking me to spoon feed you?

[Ali G. 37]

you need to keep in mind i am pro-choice. If you are sick, get on a plane anywhere you want to go. Why do you have sucha problem with me paying cash in the USA but feel you need to explain yourself to me? Really you don't. Go to whatever doctor you want.

I need to understand YOU, but I can be gang-banged all afternoon and evening by a tag team of liberals that can't make a word of sense between them just because I pay my own way? tres wierd.

Post it. still waiting

Hey you're the one who pulled specific figures from the azz.

Life Expectancy

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/sto...nt/flyp_ibm_07/ - 2009 data from OECD Health Data

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count...life_expectancy - 2009 data from the CIA and UN

http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi...life+expectancy - 2007 data from the World Bank

Ranking of health care systems

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHO%27s_ranki...th_care_systems - 2000 W.H.O report

Health spending Per Capita

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/sto...nt/flyp_ibm_07/ - 2009 data from OECD Health Data

I/we are not ganging up on your Gary. Trust me, I have been ganged up on before on here, from the best of them so I know what it's like to actually be bashed by everyone. A number of us with varying views and ideologies of our own, just don't agree with the zero government, 'every man for themselves' jungle-rules approach. Some of us here have diametrically opposing views on 95% of topics yet actually agree on this topic.

Edited February 22, 2010 by Booyah

[Revenesque 2]

I/we are not ganging up on your Gary. Trust me, I have been ganged up on before on here, from the best of them so I know what it's like to actually be bashed by everyone. A number of us with varying views, just don't agree with the zero government every man for themselves approach. Some of us even here have diametrically opposing views on 95% of topics yet actually agree on this topic.

Gary can hold on his own. I don't agree with him, but I respect his tenacity.

[Ban Hammer 13,469]

Gary can hold on his own. I don't agree with him, but I respect his tenacity.

heaven help us if gary and by get on the same side, both are very tenacious.

[neoconsnightmare 0]

You will have to do better...or lose. Canada, Australia and UK do not use accidental or criminal deaths in their lifespan calculations, The US does. take away accidental and crime death and the US has a longer life span. Number one in the world.

You want to compare health care? In EVERY category patients of diesease have a far better success rate of survival in the US than in the countries mentioned. The US is the BEST place in the world to be sick. For some diseases, colon cancer, for example, our survival rates are 700% higher than Canada.

Scandal will be along next to compliment my post. He appreciates the facts.

I don't care. If I did, I would move to France. I speak French, why not?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count...life_expectancy shows 37 countries (and territories, like the u.s. virgin islands) that have longer life expectancies than the united states proper.

where is your PROOF that other countries take out 'accidental and criminal death' (and i find it HARD to believe that all 37 take out 'accidental and criminal death') . japan, for instances, HAS THE LONGEST LIFE EXPECTANCY, and they have the highest rate of suicide of any industrial nation...isn't suicide a 'crime'?)

and I'M an AMERICAN CITIZEN, born and raised.

bottom line...YOU LOSE! try something new.

which is it?

[Revenesque 2]

heaven help us if gary and by get on the same side, both are very tenacious.

My hubby just signed on VJ and made his debut...Ain't nobody more tenacious than him, lol.

Edited February 22, 2010 by Revenesque

[Ali G. 37]

Hmm a number of grammatical errors in my last post, which happens when you are trying to make the edit timeout....

Should be:

I/we are not ganging up on you Gary. Trust me, I have been attacked by many on here at once before, from the best of them, so I know what it's like to actually be bashed by everyone for voicing unpopular views. A number of us with varying views and ideologies of our own, unanimously just don't agree with the zero government, 'every man for themselves', jungle-rules approach. Furthermore, some of us here have diametrically opposing views on 95% of topics, yet actually agree on this topic.

Edited February 22, 2010 by Booyah

[scandal 951]

My hubby just signed on VJ and made his debut...Ain't nobody more tenacious than him, lol.

Tell him to immediately head on over to OT. We luvz fresh meat!

[Ban Hammer 13,469]

Tell him to immediately head on over to OT. We luvz fresh meat!

noob! that's obviously his post just before hers.

[neoconsnightmare 0]

noob! that's obviously his post just before hers.

yeppers!

[Revenesque 2]

My hubby just signed on VJ and made his debut...Ain't nobody more tenacious than him, lol.

Dude makes me cry when we argue, lol.

[Ban Hammer 13,469]

Dude makes me cry when we argue, lol.

ooooo that secret weapon of women which trumps any man's argument.

[scandal 951]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count...life_expectancy shows 37 countries (and territories, like the u.s. virgin islands) that have longer life expectancies than the united states proper.

where is your PROOF that other countries take out 'accidental and criminal death' (and i find it HARD to believe that all 37 take out 'accidental and criminal death') . japan, for instances, HAS THE LONGEST LIFE EXPECTANCY, and they have the highest rate of suicide of any industrial nation...isn't suicide a 'crime'?)

and I'M an AMERICAN CITIZEN, born and raised.

bottom line...YOU LOSE! try something new.

which is it?

Welcome aboard.

Some things to keep in mind.

1. At least in this particular debate, you're not debating with me, so treat me as a neutral here, probably even a friendly.

2. You'll learn, if you stick around, that many here have no use for wikipedia sources. A wiki ref is not going to convince your adversary. Try to get a .gov or .edu citation if possible.

3. CAPS LOCKS is considered bad form.

4. Your citizenship status has no bearing on your argument.

5. Saying "YOU LOSE" (in caps) is a good way to draw attention to the fact that you haven't made your point.

Good luck, welcome aboard, play nice, and I gratefully accept gratuitiesbribes.

[Revenesque 2]

ooooo that secret weapon of women which trumps any man's argument.

It doesn't work on him, lol.