Quick note: Vietnamese writing is actually based on Latin Alphabet

[Tuanv 2]

Quick note: Vietnamese writing is actually based on Latin Alphabet. All this time, I thought it was based on Roman Alphabet. So, there is a difference when it comes to #20 in I-130.

Edited February 17, 2010 by Tuanv

[Anh map 2,098]

Quick note: Vietnamese writing is actually based on Latin Alphabet. All this time, I thought it was based on Roman Alphabet. So, there is a difference when it comes to #20 in I-130.

Latin alphabet = Roman alphabet. They are the same thing.

[Tuanv 2]

Latin alphabet = Roman alphabet. They are the same thing.

LOL. I guess I was right all along (that Roman and Latin are the same thing)

Anyway, should I use Diacritic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diacritic) for my wife name and address? Does it even make a different?

Edited February 17, 2010 by Tuanv

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

LOL. I guess I was right all along (that Roman and Latin are the same thing)

Anyway, should I use Diacritic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diacritic) for my wife name and address? Does it even make a different?

Generally, no - you don't use the diacritical marks except where you are asked to write her name in her native alphabet.

It's also interesting to note that some diacritical marks used in Vietnamese language actually create a different letter of the alphabet. For example, ơ is a completely different letter from o, and â is a different letter from a. Other diacritical marks only indicate the tone of the word, but don't change the individual letters.

The Vietnamese alphabet, or Chữ Quốc Ngữ, was originally developed by the French missionary Alexandre de Rhodes, based on work previously done by Portuguese missionaries. He published a dictionary based on his development in 1651. This explains the Latin/Roman basis for the script. Learning the pronunciation of Vietnamese words is markedly easier of you've got some background in other Latin derived languages, especially French, since the spelling is largely a phonetic representation of the sounds as a French linguist might write them, though there are some consonant and vowel combinations that are unique because the sounds they represent have no corollary in French or any other western language. The hardest part is the regional variations, such as d being pronounced like a "z" in the north, and like a "y" in the south. Most of the formal language programs for learning Vietnamese focus on the northern "Ha Noi" dialect, which makes it a little difficult to apply what you've learned when your SO speaks a different dialect. While they might be able to understand a native speaker in the northern dialect, an Anglo person badly mispronouncing the words in Ha Noi dialect, and with the wrong tones, may as well be speaking REAL Latin!

[Bernie C 24]

Generally, no - you don't use the diacritical marks except where you are asked to write her name in her native alphabet.

It's also interesting to note that some diacritical marks used in Vietnamese language actually create a different letter of the alphabet. For example, ơ is a completely different letter from o, and â is a different letter from a. Other diacritical marks only indicate the tone of the word, but don't change the individual letters.

The Vietnamese alphabet, or Chữ Quốc Ngữ, was originally developed by the French missionary Alexandre de Rhodes, based on work previously done by Portuguese missionaries. He published a dictionary based on his development in 1651. This explains the Latin/Roman basis for the script. Learning the pronunciation of Vietnamese words is markedly easier of you've got some background in other Latin derived languages, especially French, since the spelling is largely a phonetic representation of the sounds as a French linguist might write them, though there are some consonant and vowel combinations that are unique because the sounds they represent have no corollary in French or any other western language. The hardest part is the regional variations, such as d being pronounced like a "z" in the north, and like a "y" in the south. Most of the formal language programs for learning Vietnamese focus on the northern "Ha Noi" dialect, which makes it a little difficult to apply what you've learned when your SO speaks a different dialect. While they might be able to understand a native speaker in the northern dialect, an Anglo person badly mispronouncing the words in Ha Noi dialect, and with the wrong tones, may as well be speaking REAL Latin!

I always love Jim's replies hehe. I think we should lobby for Jim to be a VJ representative on Jeopardy!!!

Just kidding Jim - Hope all is well (Doan sent Phuong an IM last eve - hopefully they can "connect" sometime soon!

[Tuanv 2]

Generally, no - you don't use the diacritical marks except where you are asked to write her name in her native alphabet.

It's also interesting to note that some diacritical marks used in Vietnamese language actually create a different letter of the alphabet. For example, ơ is a completely different letter from o, and â is a different letter from a. Other diacritical marks only indicate the tone of the word, but don't change the individual letters.

The Vietnamese alphabet, or Chữ Quốc Ngữ, was originally developed by the French missionary Alexandre de Rhodes, based on work previously done by Portuguese missionaries. He published a dictionary based on his development in 1651. This explains the Latin/Roman basis for the script. Learning the pronunciation of Vietnamese words is markedly easier of you've got some background in other Latin derived languages, especially French, since the spelling is largely a phonetic representation of the sounds as a French linguist might write them, though there are some consonant and vowel combinations that are unique because the sounds they represent have no corollary in French or any other western language. The hardest part is the regional variations, such as d being pronounced like a "z" in the north, and like a "y" in the south. Most of the formal language programs for learning Vietnamese focus on the northern "Ha Noi" dialect, which makes it a little difficult to apply what you've learned when your SO speaks a different dialect. While they might be able to understand a native speaker in the northern dialect, an Anglo person badly mispronouncing the words in Ha Noi dialect, and with the wrong tones, may as well be speaking REAL Latin!

I always love Jim's replies hehe. I think we should lobby for Jim to be a VJ representative on Jeopardy!!!

Just kidding Jim - Hope all is well (Doan sent Phuong an IM last eve - hopefully they can "connect" sometime soon!

Ditto

[Tuanv 2]

Generally, no - you don't use the diacritical marks except where you are asked to write her name in her native alphabet.

So, I don't need to use the diacritical mark for #20 on I-130 because the address is already in Roman?

[hieumin 2]

write N/A for that #20, I did mine and no problem with uscis

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

I always love Jim's replies hehe. I think we should lobby for Jim to be a VJ representative on Jeopardy!!!

Just kidding Jim - Hope all is well (Doan sent Phuong an IM last eve - hopefully they can "connect" sometime soon!

Thanks, Bernie!

Phuong answered Doan's message yesterday. I asked if she was chatting, and she said "No chat. Em send messin'grr".

[lindal24 1]

write N/A for that #20, I did mine and no problem with uscis

I did the same thing...

[Tuanv 2]

Cool, I am almost done with my I-130

[Tuanv 2]

Why did I-130 address for my spouse address twice? Did you put the same address for #2 and #19?

[Tuanv 2]

Why did I-130 address for my spouse address twice? Did you put the same address for #2 and #19?

Rephrase: Why did USCIP ask for my wife address twice? I probably think about it too much. I will put the same address for both.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

Rephrase: Why did USCIP ask for my wife address twice? I probably think about it too much. I will put the same address for both.

A relative beneficiary's current address and address abroad may not be the same. Some people get married in the US, and the beneficiary remains in the US while submitting an I-130 and AOS application. In that case, their current address would be where they are living in the US, and their address abroad would be their home in their foreign country.

The address in question 2 is where they will send any correspondence with the beneficiary. The address in question 19 is for background checks, etc.

[Tuanv 2]

A relative beneficiary's current address and address abroad may not be the same. Some people get married in the US, and the beneficiary remains in the US while submitting an I-130 and AOS application. In that case, their current address would be where they are living in the US, and their address abroad would be their home in their foreign country.

The address in question 2 is where they will send any correspondence with the beneficiary. The address in question 19 is for background checks, etc.

Ah, in my case. The address would be the same because my wife is still in Vietnam. Thx Jim.

Edited February 21, 2010 by Tuanv