HOOOOOOOOOOOCKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY

[Wyatt's Torch 45]

Maybe we can blame him for the 5th, he probably just said "awe ** it I'm outta here, screw the last 20 seconds" and headed for the bench.

Brodeur is a living legend. Probably the second or third best goaltender to have ever played the game. Many would argue THE best. But I'm sorry...in a tournament like this, if you can't get it done NOW, you can't be in our net. Luongo had a shutout in the Norway rout (which was, by all accounts, an easy game), but I'd rather take the chance on him than go with the known quantity of a bad Brodeur.

[Sprailenes 47]

1 Canadian living in a house with 4 other Americans isn't always easy! Today is one of those days!!

Just living here isn't always easy... I don't even want to go back to work because I know people will be saying something.

Damn hecklers!

[Wyatt's Torch 45]

Just living here isn't always easy... I don't even want to go back to work because I know people will be saying something.

Damn hecklers!

Hehe. I swear...when I move down there I'm going to want people to forget that I'm Canadian. I mean, *I* won't forget it, but yeah.

[MrsCat 6]

1 Canadian living in a house with 4 other Americans isn't always easy! Today is one of those days!!

Fortunately, we live in HI and no one even knows what hockey is. I am sure no one even knows there are winter Olympics here.

Just living here isn't always easy... I don't even want to go back to work because I know people will be saying something.

Damn hecklers!

I bet the annoying cleaning lady heckles you tomorrow.

[Allie 5]

I completely disagree.

The first two goals he let in were pretty horrible. The third one was marginal. The fourth was a good goal, plain and simple. I'll be nice and won't even blame him for the fifth!

Brodeur let in 4 goals on 22 shots. That's inexcusable in the NHL, let alone on the world stage in such a statement game.

Brodeur didn't lose the game for Canada. The first 2 goals were deflected the 3rd on a crowd in front of the net. Canada out shot the US 44 to 22. We doninated the play and had a lot more hits and scoring chances than the US. At times it looked like men playing a kids team.

I know the score board is what counts in the end but when a team runs into a hot goalie this is what usually happens.

Martin Brodeur is the best goaltender in the world, has proven his worth many times and has the stats to back it all up. Luongo may start against Germany but when it comes to playing Russia after Germany Marty Brodeur will be back in goal for Canada and will be there when we play for the Gold medal too.

Yeah this was a big game in standing order but they didn't hand out the medals yet and that's when it all counts when the cards are on the table.

Don't jump off the Canadian band wagon there's plenty of hockey to go. Canada is still the best team in the torunament and Marty Brodeur the best goaltender.

Below is a quote from Ron Wilson.

Even the U.S. coach Ron Wilson acknowledged afterwards how well his goaltender played - and much of a difference he made to the outcome.

"In fairness, Canada out-chanced us two-to-one for most of the game and our goalie played excellent," said Wilson. "We've still got a long ways to go here. There are some great teams out there. Personally, I think Canada is the best team - and Russia is right behind them with all the skill they have up front."

[Flames9_RN 358]

I completely disagree.

The first two goals he let in were pretty horrible. The third one was marginal. The fourth was a good goal, plain and simple. I'll be nice and won't even blame him for the fifth!

Brodeur let in 4 goals on 22 shots. That's inexcusable in the NHL, let alone on the world stage in such a statement game.

They were deflections. And u can't say just because the USA only had 22 shots on net 4 were goals that its poor goaltending! Its not the # of shots that count--its the QUALITY of shots that truly count. As a goalie, I know first hand how hard it is stop defections,ur set up for the sot, and whammo chg of direction and now ur pretty much hooped,lol

Sure Brodeur may be an elite goalie,but Loungo is playing in front of his normal Vancouver crowd, ok maybe not the normal Vancouver crowd, but familiar with the rink/surroundings!

[OBX 51]

Just living here isn't always easy... I don't even want to go back to work because I know people will be saying something.

Damn hecklers!

Hehe. I swear...when I move down there I'm going to want people to forget that I'm Canadian. I mean, *I* won't forget it, but yeah.

They won't forget! My husband (both a Canadian and US citizen) still gets beat up at work over hockey and he has been here since '92! He REALLY didn't want to go in today!

[J&K 0]

I can't watch really highly important games...I get too mad, or too nervous, so I only saw a couple of goals.

Being a goalie for 22 years, I can tell you, Brodeur did NOT play well at all. He is a very good goalie, but the game has change, and he has not (his style...he remains to be a hybrid goalie whereas, the majority of goaltenders in the game today are butterfly style)

I'm going to try and break the goals down and let you know what he did wrong, and how, even though a couple were deflections, he could have had a chance to make the save.

Goal 1: Shot came from the point, and was deflected past Brodeur's blocker side. Brodeur went down, but only put out his left leg initially, causing him not to be able to react quickly enough when the puck was deflected. In fact, he didn't even move his right leg to try and make the save. Had he gone down in the butterfly to protect the entire net, rather than trying to just make the save on the shot, he might have had a chance to stop the deflection, as his reaction time would have been cut shorter, by his body and leg already being in position.

Goal 2: Brodeur should NOT have batted the puck out of mid air. That was Brodeur being Brodeur and having to go out and play the puck. Now, I'm all for goalies playing the puck (I'm one of them) but you hve to know when to play the puck, or stay in your net. He should have stayed in his net. He made the worst choice in where he ended up putting the puck. He put it in what I call the 'Dead Zone" right up the middle. So, it goes up the middle, and while the US pointman gets the puck, Brodeur is scrambling to get back in net to get in position, and ends up looking like Hasek in that he doesn't even have proper positioning as a Hybrid goalie! Why the heck did he go down like that???? He's an NHL goalie who's probably made that same countless times. If had had gone down into a butterfly, or even semi-butterfly, even with the deflection, he would have made that save because the puck stayed on the ice. Pads on the ice would have stopped it.

Who's at Fault for that goal? Brodeur. If he had let his defense just go and get the puck in the corner, we may have never had the puck up the middle, in fact, it probably would have stayed up along the boards.

Game should have been 1-0 Canada at the end of the first period.

Goal 3: Again, didn't stay in his net! Tried to pokecheck the puck and failed. As a goalie, you need to be 100% sure that you are not going to mess up with the pokecheck, because you are completely vulnerable. He missed and the US player passed it to his man who had a wide open net because Brodeur, once again was way out of position.

Should have been 2-0 Canada at this point.

Goal 4: Good power play goal. Had movement on the ice, good one-timer from the halfboards. If I were going to blame anyone, it would be whomever was in the box!

Should have been 3-1 (After Canada scored) at this point.

Goal 5: Obviously an empty net.

Reasons why we lost that game? Goaltending on both ends. Brodeur did not play well, and Miller did. Simple as that. Had Brodeur made the saves he was supposed to, and not put himself out of position (and as a goalie, that's WHAT A GOALIE'S JOB IS, to be IN POSITION) even with Miller's stellar performance, we should have won that game.

/stepping out of my crease now

Edited February 22, 2010 by J&K

[Sprailenes 47]

They won't forget! My husband (both a Canadian and US citizen) still gets beat up at work over hockey and he has been here since '92! He REALLY didn't want to go in today!

Yea one of my coworkers already started on my FB. Canada needs to pull it together, could you imagine if we didn't get gold? We lost world juniors and we lost the olympics??

We'd have NOTHING!

[derekkj 0]

Reasons why we lost that game? Goaltending on both ends. Brodeur did not play well, and Miller did. Simple as that. Had Brodeur made the saves he was supposed to, and not put himself out of position (and as a goalie, that's WHAT A GOALIE'S JOB IS, to be IN POSITION) even with Miller's stellar performance, we should have won that game.

/stepping out of my crease now

Completely agree.

I actually thought Canada was going to kick US as$ and was ready to take some good natured heckling as an American watching the game at the Canadian Embassy. Instead, some upset Canadian asked me why any f@cking Americans were even at the Embassy and why didn't we go to our own embassy to watch the game. Um, ok.

[Flames9_RN 358]

Completely agree.

I actually thought Canada was going to kick US as$ and was ready to take some good natured heckling as an American watching the game at the Canadian Embassy. Instead, some upset Canadian asked me why any f@cking Americans were even at the Embassy and why didn't we go to our own embassy to watch the game. Um, ok.

That was pretty rude!! Not a true hockey fan their, just a complete moron!! Quite often in these types of tournaments,its not the team with the best players that win, its the team that comes together the quickest and has great team chemistry! Plain and simple, the USA got better goaltending, thus deserved to win! Suck it up, and move on,lol

[bowflex 0]

Lol I just love all the references to the 1980 Miracle on Ice in regards to this game by the American media, many of whom never watched a hockey game in their life

This was a PRELIMINARY game and neither team won or lost a medal, it really wasn't that big of a deal Lol. I bet this game wakes up Canada and you see them showing a much bigger effort on defense for the rest of the tournament. Don't get me wrong, I'm very glad the States won but this was not an incredible upset. Every single player on both sides plays in the NHL, I think it's pretty safe to say they're all relatively solid hockey players hahaha

[Flames9_RN 358]

yes, in now way can they compare that game to the USA "Miracle on ice'!! Thats a slap in the face of that American team! That team was truly up against a mountain! College players vs the Russian Pros!

The current American team is full of NHL players, so no comparison! Canada now has a bit harder route to travel, germany on Tuesday, and if they beat them--its not a given----they most likely play the Russians after that! Even if they get bumped out, still lots of great hockey to be watched!!

[trailmix 77]

I can't watch really highly important games...I get too mad, or too nervous, so I only saw a couple of goals.

That's my Sister too. When the score was tied she was ok, then the U.S. scored so she called me and asked me to call her when it was tied up again. So I did, then they U.S. scores - I said no - just watch the game (when she called again to ask me to call her when they were tied again )

[OBX 51]

Yea one of my coworkers already started on my FB. Canada needs to pull it together, could you imagine if we didn't get gold? We lost world juniors and we lost the olympics??

We'd have NOTHING!

Please, I don't even want to imagine that! We only had one bottle of wine out last night; if there's any more losing on Canada's part it will be a case!!

Reasons why we lost that game? Goaltending on both ends. Brodeur did not play well, and Miller did. Simple as that. Had Brodeur made the saves he was supposed to, and not put himself out of position (and as a goalie, that's WHAT A GOALIE'S JOB IS, to be IN POSITION) even with Miller's stellar performance, we should have won that game.

/stepping out of my crease now

As far as who is to blame...I am no hockey expert but being the mother of a goalie and a defenceman I've watched a few games I agree with J&K's analysis regarding Brodeur. But I give Ryan Miller credit; he was hot last night.

I'm ready to move on to Tuesday's game.