Girl, 11, Gives Birth to Baby Boy

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

And the father is guilty of rape. Maybe we need to hand out condoms to 5th graders now...does anyone have a functioning brain? Oh yeah....WIC, AFDC, SSI I forgot, yeah I see how the brain functions.

[GabiandVi 34]

So, how did she know about sex? and prenancy? What's making her have a baby?

Are you serious? How did you know about sex? Did you have to be taught about it in school?

You'd have to ask her why she is having the baby. As for the girls I've taught, they think it is fun, cool, will create a lifelong tie to the daddy, their right, proof that they are "grown", what their mothers' did, etc. A large number of them are the product of a teen mother themselves and their mothers were the products of teen mothers. This is not an issue with them. It's not shocking. It's not devastating. It's not something they dread or that they want to hide when it happens. It is a choice. Some choose to get pregnant, others do not.

[Niels Bohr 72]

Based on this, do you still think abstinence sex ed class is worthwhile since teen pregnancy has nothing to do with whether or not they take this class?

Are you serious? How did you know about sex? Did you have to be taught about it in school?

You'd have to ask her why she is having the baby. As for the girls I've taught, they think it is fun, cool, will create a lifelong tie to the daddy, their right, proof that they are "grown", what their mothers' did, etc. A large number of them are the product of a teen mother themselves and their mothers were the products of teen mothers. This is not an issue with them. It's not shocking. It's not devastating. It's not something they dread or that they want to hide when it happens. It is a choice. Some choose to get pregnant, others do not.

[GabiandVi 34]

Based on this, do you still think abstinence sex ed class is worthwhile since teen pregnancy has nothing to do with whether or not they take this class?

Do you read the posts you respond to? I clearly stated that I don't think abstinence only works because the children who get pregnant wouldn't consider abstinence anyway.

I do think that it is worthwhile to teach that the ONLY 100% effective form of birth control is abstinence, and I don't mind churches promoting abstinence. Churches have had a lot of success in bringing down sexual activity among teens, and let's face it, pregnancy is not the only unfortunate outcome from sex.

I do think that a "sex ed" class is worthwhile to teach, but I don't think it prevents very many pregnancies.

[Niels Bohr 72]

Nope. Apparently, I missed that. LOL. Too early in the morning.

Do you read the posts you respond to? I clearly stated that I don't think abstinence only works because the children who get pregnant wouldn't consider abstinence anyway.

I do think that it is worthwhile to teach that the ONLY 100% effective form of birth control is abstinence, and I don't mind churches promoting abstinence. Churches have had a lot of success in bringing down sexual activity among teens, and let's face it, pregnancy is not the only unfortunate outcome from sex.

I do think that a "sex ed" class is worthwhile to teach, but I don't think it prevents very many pregnancies.

[PhiLandShiR 18]

Practically, how do you imagine that the parents should be held "personally accountable" for this?

Well, there should be some rape charges filed here... Maybe even charge the parents as pimps...

[~PalmTreeGurl~ 154]

On a side note: Birth Control can be dangerous or deadly and just shouldnt be used as an easy convenience either. I was put on Birth Control for PCOS *polycystic ovarian syndrom and it almost killed me. Had a blood disorder Factor V that I had no idea about and being on BC pills gave me a major blood clot in my right leg that if I didnt get to the hospital sooner I would have died.

Abstinence is the 100% safer route for young teens, there is no doubt about it. Teens need to keep hearing that, over and over and not that BC pills are a 'good' solution.

SIDE EFFECTS: The most common side effects of the birth control pills include nausea, headache, breast tenderness, weight gain, irregular bleeding, and mood changes. These side effects often subside after a few months' use. Scanty menstrual periods or breakthrough bleeding may occur, but are often temporary, and neither side effect is serious. Women with a history of migraines may notice an increase in migraine frequency. On the other hand, women whose migraines are triggered by fluctuations in their own hormone levels may notice improvement in migraines with oral contraceptive use because of the more uniform hormone levels during oral contraceptive use. Uncommonly, oral contraceptives may contribute to increased blood pressure, blood clots, heart attack, and stroke. Women who smoke, especially those over 35, and women with certain medical conditions, such as a history of blood clots or breast or endometrial cancer, may be advised against taking oral contraceptives, as these conditions can increase the adverse risks of oral contraceptives.

http://www.medicinenet.com/oral_contracept...pills/page2.htm

Edited February 16, 2010 by ~PalmTreeGurl~

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Well, there should be some rape charges filed here... Maybe even charge the parents as pimps...

If the father of the girl's child is underage too, then there are no rape charges.

The only way the parents could be charged with pimping their daughter is if they actually did that.

No evidence of either.

[Gemmie 142]

I agree that it's shocking but there's something that really pisses me off when I read stories like this.

When an underage girl gets pregnant, it's a shock and not a good one. This girl has ruined her life, she has no idea how to raise a child, she's been thoughtless and irresponsible, etc... but then the baby is born and it's "AWWWWWW". Family and friends rush to hold the baby, they coo over how cute it is, they even praise the girl for giving birth to such a gorgeous baby. And suddenly, all is forgiven and/or forgotten because it's done and the baby is cute.

The same thing happened in my family, when my brother decided to get his 19 year old girlfriend pregnant for all of the wrong reasons, and they didn't have the place or money to support it. At first, there were questions on how they were going to manage, but then as soon as she gave birth to a bouncing baby boy, the selfishness of what they had done was forgotten. Now they're planning on having another one that they expect the state to pay for, and I believe it's partly due to the changing attitude of everyone around them. I admit, even I gushed over how cute he is, and bought him gifts, and enjoyed holding him. But in my mind, it still doesn't excuse having a child when you're not ready.

[Ali G. 37]

Why is it ridiculous? What is the precise significance of this story?

I certainly agree with you that having a child at the age of 11 isn't exactly the ideal situation, to say the least. But so what?

Is this one of those stories where because you see a handful of headlines that there's some major epidemic going on? Suddenly its happening the length and breadth of the country!? Sheesh man, take a bloody chill pill. $hit does indeed happen. The sooner you realize it and accept it, the happier you'll be - instead of moaning about how a bloody news headline is proof positive that the sky is falling.

Contrary to your own belief, I don't see anyone in shock and awe about this, as if its the first time it happened. The issues is why this still occurs in 2010.

If you have no interest in topics like these, then why is your pale pom face always to be seen in such threads? Personally, I have better things to do than enter threads I have no interest in.

[Darnell 8,479]

The child wasn't illegal sex worker, was she? hmmm

I think if the child is under 14, the parents should be arrested, each and every time.

Edited February 16, 2010 by Darnell

[Ali G. 37]

The people who are saying that want to believe it, but it is not true. Most children who are getting pregnant know more about how to get pregnant than many adults. They also have access to birth control, usually for free. They know how to get it without their parents knowing about it, but in most cases, their parents would promote the use of it anyway. These kids either want to get pregnant, or want to take the chance. I deal with these kids every day. Eleven is very young, but except for the age, there is nothing shocking here. This is par for the course among young girls around here, and if you look at statistics, areas such as mine and demographics such as what I'm referring to are where the increase in teen pregnancies is occuring. These kids NEVER considered abstinence. NEVER.

They talk openly about sex. They talk about getting pregnant. They talk about trying until they finally do get pregnant, and if they miscarry, they try again. The boys brag about how many children they have fathered. The girls with some small hope for a future talk about not having children until they are older. This is real life I'm talking about. This is what I observe EVERY day at school.

Abstinence only doesn't work, but not because it leads to pregnancy. It doesn't work because the children who are going to get pregnant wouldn't consider it in the first place. But neither does any other sort of program that has been tried. This is systemic, and it won't be fixed until we fix the problem that underlies it, and no one wants to even begin talking about that because it is politically incorrect.

You are kidding right?

Things will not change until faux parents start to be held accountable for their children. The worst thing to ever happen in this generation is that parents became their child's friend, rather than stepping up to be the responsible adult parent. Kids have friends, so they don't need some clown faux adult to live vicariously through them. The other thing is that it's just so easy to pop out kids and have others pay for it. After all, it's why pikes mother country has become an absolute joke regarding such matters, hence the unprecedented emigration from there.

[Ali G. 37]

I agree that it's shocking but there's something that really pisses me off when I read stories like this.

When an underage girl gets pregnant, it's a shock and not a good one. This girl has ruined her life, she has no idea how to raise a child, she's been thoughtless and irresponsible, etc... but then the baby is born and it's "AWWWWWW". Family and friends rush to hold the baby, they coo over how cute it is, they even praise the girl for giving birth to such a gorgeous baby. And suddenly, all is forgiven and/or forgotten because it's done and the baby is cute.

The same thing happened in my family, when my brother decided to get his 19 year old girlfriend pregnant for all of the wrong reasons, and they didn't have the place or money to support it. At first, there were questions on how they were going to manage, but then as soon as she gave birth to a bouncing baby boy, the selfishness of what they had done was forgotten. Now they're planning on having another one that they expect the state to pay for, and I believe it's partly due to the changing attitude of everyone around them. I admit, even I gushed over how cute he is, and bought him gifts, and enjoyed holding him. But in my mind, it still doesn't excuse having a child when you're not ready.

Great post. The highlighted sections says it all.

[Sc0tt28 26]

How many people on VJ lost their virginity at a young age before the age of consent?

Who's going to start the poll? My first time was when I was 27 years old.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Contrary to your own belief, I don't see anyone in shock and awe about this, as if its the first time it happened. The issues is why this still occurs in 2010.

If you have no interest in topics like these, then why is your pale pom face always to be seen in such threads? Personally, I have better things to do than enter threads I have no interest in.

BY, if the issue was indeed why this "still" happens in 2010, then you wouldn't be screaming bloody murder all the time about why things are supposedly so much worse than they were in the 1950s. If you do indeed hold such an opinion why do you drop it at a moment's notice to suggest, somehow that the present day is more socially/morally advanced than it was before?

Does that not strike you as just a little ambiguous? What gives?

PS: this should answer your question.