Another case of the Parents blame everyone but themselves and their kid.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I sometimes think that way, too, but whenever I recall lessons from history like Alexander the Great banging men, the Khmer Rouge, or the Jewish Holocaust and other tragic events that were caused and done by people, these all happened in the past so I ask myself if the present society is getting more human or what. Are parents any better nowadays or prehistoric parents and parents centuries ago were ill for arranging marriages and manipulating their children and more?

Alexander the Great having gay sex was a Greek tragedy?

[Calypso 464]

Alexander the Great having gay sex was a Greek tragedy?

My point was that these so-called "shocking news" at present aren't really new. Gays are not new to history. Genocide isn't new either and so are parents who abuse their children. That's why it makes me wonder if our present-day society is any better than the past.

[Danno 1,228]

My point was that these so-called "shocking news" at present aren't really new. Gays are not new to history. Genocide isn't new either and so are parents who abuse their children. That's why it makes me wonder if our present-day society is any better than the past.

Your absolutely right, just as the seasons come and go so do societies and usually at their own undoing.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If you don't think that human civilization has improved markedly in the last 4000 years, then nothing is going to "shock" you.

Plenty of people were upset about 9/11, yet the death toll there was puny when compared to the average pitched battle in ancient and medieval times.

Does this mean we shouldn't be shocked at these things?

We're shocked because the average American isn't sitting at home worrying about whether their homes will be burnt and their wives and daughters raped by barbarian hordes. That doesn't happen because our modern world is better in nearly every way than it was in Greek or Roman times.

[Niels Bohr 72]

There alot of kids today that respect authority. Very few that really get out of control. My nephew is not messed up throwing temper tantrums.

I do agree that the parents are not being responsible. Heck, they were even given an opportunity to talk with the school to find out what is wrong with the child. They work 24/7 doesn't mean to neglect their child social development. Most likely this kid will grow up into a bully. Afterwards, probably drop out of school altogether.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

My point was that these so-called "shocking news" at present aren't really new. Gays are not new to history. Genocide isn't new either and so are parents who abuse their children. That's why it makes me wonder if our present-day society is any better than the past.

Yep. IMO, humanity doesn't really progress, because it requires each individual to work towards their own enlightenment. Our collective wisdom though does...it's just that so many choose not to follow it.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

I don't even have to read it, Danno. It is George Bush's fault.

[Ali G. 37]

Either some societies are evolving the wrong way or they are just devolving.

Definitely with attitudes from loser faux parents like that.

Edited February 13, 2010 by Booyah

[Ali G. 37]

If you don't think that human civilization has improved markedly in the last 4000 years, then nothing is going to "shock" you.

Plenty of people were upset about 9/11, yet the death toll there was puny when compared to the average pitched battle in ancient and medieval times.

Does this mean we shouldn't be shocked at these things?

We're shocked because the average American isn't sitting at home worrying about whether their homes will be burnt and their wives and daughters raped by barbarian hordes. That doesn't happen because our modern world is better in nearly every way than it was in Greek or Roman times.

Just in case you have not noticed, this is 2010, not 250BC.. One would think people have progressed since then. No?

Nonetheless, that is not the issue here. From the 80's to now, there has been a complete shift in the culture and attitude of a hell of a lot of parents. Never in my life would I have thought a parent would curse out the school, because their 6 year old girl assaulted the staff, twice.

Edited February 13, 2010 by Booyah

[Ali G. 37]

Furthermore, during Greco/Roman times, if a child attacked their elders like that, they would probably be punished to death.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

The problem is with the parents, not the child or school. And if the child has some disorder, it's the parents responsibility to get the child treated.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Just in case you have not noticed, this is 2010, not 250BC.. One would think people have progressed since then. No?

Nonetheless, that is not the issue here. From the 80's to now, there has been a complete shift in the culture and attitude of a hell of a lot of parents. Never in my life would I have thought a parent would curse out the school, because their 6 year old girl assaulted the staff, twice.

I had noticed,BY. You'd have realized that if you had read what I'd written and if your post wasn't just some lame segue into your race hate shite, which it is.

Edited February 13, 2010 by Gene Hunt

[Susita 175]

The problem is with the parents, not the child or school. And if the child has some disorder, it's the parents responsibility to get the child treated.

Exactly, the kid is 6 years old. Whatever issues she has, psychological or behavioral, it is the parents responsibility to have them looked at... but apparently they weren't interested until AFTER something seriously bad happened. They were called to the school and never showed up various times.

Some people suck bigtime as parents and these poor kids have to suffer the consequences.

Now that I think about it, the sudden interest in going to the press & criticizing the school could be some part of a lawsuit. Ehh, money money money Too bad they don't care that much about their kid.

[SeniorPat 0]

So many years later, can report confirmation that Verbal Abuse and EXTREME Neglect runs strong in the family tree. As she has begun the process all over again with a child of her own. 

[TBoneTX 45,825]

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