MEL GIBSON ARRESTED FOR DUI

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I found it first >>>>>It's still linked to MY photobucket!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Gibson asks Jews for help in healing

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"I want to apologize specifically to everyone in the Jewish community for the vitriolic and harmful words," Gibson said in a statement issued by his publicist Tuesday. "Please know from my heart that I am not an anti-Semite. I am not a bigot. Hatred of any kind goes against my faith. ... There will be many in that (Jewish) community who will want nothing to do with me, and that would be understandable. But I pray that that door is not forever closed."

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"When Mr. Gibson embarks on a serious long-term effort to address that bigotry and anti-Semitism, he will find the Jewish community more than willing to engage and help him," he said. (Rabbi Marvin Hier)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060802/ap_en_...bson_remarks_76

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Religion

Extremely devoted to his faith, Mel Gibson has donated money to finance the construction of "independent" traditional Catholic chapels in Malibu, California, and in a small town in West Virginia. Only the Latin Tridentine Mass is offered in both chapels. Gibson has said that he attends Mass every day.

On June 7, 1980, Gibson married Robyn Moore, whom he initially met through a dating service. They have one daughter and six sons: Hannah (born 1980), twins Edward and Christian (born 1982), Willie (born 1985), Louis (born 1988), Milo (born 1990), and Tommy (born 1999). Rumors that Hannah was planning to become a nun were quashed by the family after initial mention in the media.

His wife remains an Anglican despite 26 years of marriage to Mel Gibson. Gibson never disapproved of her Anglican beliefs, saying that "true love knows no boundaries." Gibson has not attempted to convert her, and maintains that she is "a saint" for sticking with him through his years of hard drinking and that she is a much better Christian than he. He has also called her "my Rock of Gibraltar, only prettier." But he has also stated in interviews that he grudgingly holds to the Catholic doctrine of "Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus" and, as such, accepts the possibility that his wife could go to hell.[9] It has been implied that he holds to a strict and heretical interpretation of that doctrine known as Feeneyism, though he has not stated that explicitly.

Personal views

Many of Gibson's positions are in accordance with traditionalist Catholicism. In 2004, he publicly condemned taxpayer-funded embryonic stem-cell research that involves the cloning and destruction of human embryos. In March 2005, he issued a statement condemning the ending of Terri Schiavo's life, referring to her death as "state-sanctioned murder" on Sean Hannity's radio show.[10] He is, however, a proponent of the death penalty, which the traditional doctrine of the Catholic Church allows for under specific circumstances, but which post-Vatican II Popes have said is rarely justifiable in modern society.[11] He is also a supporter of gun ownership.

While having never identified himself as being a conservative Republican, Gibson has been perceived as such to the point that The Washington Times has referred to him as one, and WorldNetDaily once even reported that there was grassroots support among Republicans for "a presidential run."[12]

He joined many of his colleagues in the entertainment industry in opposition to the Iraq War and praised the liberal director Michael Moore and his documentary film Fahrenheit 9/11.[13] Gibson's Icon Productions was originally set to back Moore's film, but mysteriously backed out. Moore claimed in 2004, Icon Productions got a call from top Republicans to tell Mel Gibson not to expect to get more invitations to the White House." [14] In 2006 Gibson told Hotdog Magazine, a UK film magazine, that the "fearmongering" depicted in his film Apocalypto "reminds me a little of President Bush and his guys." [15] Many fans have perceived The Patriot (2000), We Were Soldiers (2002) and The Passion of the Christ (2004) as conservative movies.

In a July 1995 interview with Playboy magazine, Gibson said President Bill Clinton was a "low-level opportunist" because someone was "telling him what to do." He said he thought Clinton and other politicians who had won Rhodes Scholarships were part of a "stealth" trend of Rhodes scholars becoming politicians who were striving for a "new world order." He said this was a form of Marxism and that "Karl had the right idea."[16][17] During the interview, Gibson also said the assassinations (or attempts) of Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy, and Ronald Reagan may have been related to actions they took regarding the Federal Reserve; he said his father told him about this theory.[18]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Gibson

Edited August 2, 2006 by erekose

[one...two...tree 2,762]

His wife remains an Anglican despite 26 years of marriage to Mel Gibson. Gibson never disapproved of her Anglican beliefs, saying that "true love knows no boundaries." Gibson has not attempted to convert her, and maintains that she is "a saint" for sticking with him through his years of hard drinking and that she is a much better Christian than he. He has also called her "my Rock of Gibraltar, only prettier." But he has also stated in interviews that he grudgingly holds to the Catholic doctrine of "Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus" and, as such, accepts the possibility that his wife could go to hell.[9] It has been implied that he holds to a strict and heretical interpretation of that doctrine known as Feeneyism, though he has not stated that explicitly.

I would like to clarify that Traditional Catholics are NOT connected to the papacy as they do not recognize the Pope. I believe Gibson rejects Vatican II. I'll have to look up this Catholic doctrine, but as a lifelong Catholic I honestly have never heard such nonsense. We don't believe that salvation is exclusive to only Catholics.

He's a horse's ####### with his rigid, dogmatic views. Faith should never be about dogmatism - Jesus made that clear when he consistently criticized the Pharisees for living by the rule, rather than through the heart.

Edited August 2, 2006 by Steven_and_Jinky

[Laura_and_IanM 0]

His wife remains an Anglican despite 26 years of marriage to Mel Gibson. Gibson never disapproved of her Anglican beliefs, saying that "true love knows no boundaries." Gibson has not attempted to convert her, and maintains that she is "a saint" for sticking with him through his years of hard drinking and that she is a much better Christian than he. He has also called her "my Rock of Gibraltar, only prettier." But he has also stated in interviews that he grudgingly holds to the Catholic doctrine of "Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus" and, as such, accepts the possibility that his wife could go to hell.[9] It has been implied that he holds to a strict and heretical interpretation of that doctrine known as Feeneyism, though he has not stated that explicitly.

I would like to clarify that Traditional Catholics are NOT connected to the papacy as they do not recognize the Pope. I believe Gibson rejects Vatican II. I'll have to look up this Catholic doctrine, but as a lifelong Catholic I honestly have never heard such nonsense. We don't believe that salvation is exclusive to only Catholics.

He's a horse's ####### with his rigid, dogmatic views. Faith should never be about dogmatism - Jesus made that clear when he consistently criticized the Pharisees for living by the rule, rather than through the heart.

Yes that is true. I use to belong to a "traditional" catholic church for 20 years. Masses were still in latin, and one must go to confession prior to receiving communion if one was in the state of mortal sin. They believe that the seat of Rome has not been filled for many, many years. The latter part of your statement is not true though Steven. We were not allowed to attend a modern day Catholic church, or a church ceremony of any other religion as it is considered to be wrong and yes a sin. Yes, true traditional catholics do believe that salvation is for Catholics only. I don't know what kind of Traditional Catholic church you go to or use to go to, but yes those are the beliefs. And, there aren't many Traditional Catholic churches around anymore due to them NOT believing in the Pope therefore the DIOCES shutting them down. Our church was shut down and moved several times due to this and was eventually moved over into Canada.

I am sure you will find a way to argue with what I have just said, but if you like, I can have our Father give you a ring??

[one...two...tree 2,762]

His wife remains an Anglican despite 26 years of marriage to Mel Gibson. Gibson never disapproved of her Anglican beliefs, saying that "true love knows no boundaries." Gibson has not attempted to convert her, and maintains that she is "a saint" for sticking with him through his years of hard drinking and that she is a much better Christian than he. He has also called her "my Rock of Gibraltar, only prettier." But he has also stated in interviews that he grudgingly holds to the Catholic doctrine of "Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus" and, as such, accepts the possibility that his wife could go to hell.[9] It has been implied that he holds to a strict and heretical interpretation of that doctrine known as Feeneyism, though he has not stated that explicitly.

I would like to clarify that Traditional Catholics are NOT connected to the papacy as they do not recognize the Pope. I believe Gibson rejects Vatican II. I'll have to look up this Catholic doctrine, but as a lifelong Catholic I honestly have never heard such nonsense. We don't believe that salvation is exclusive to only Catholics.

He's a horse's ####### with his rigid, dogmatic views. Faith should never be about dogmatism - Jesus made that clear when he consistently criticized the Pharisees for living by the rule, rather than through the heart.

Yes that is true. I use to belong to a "traditional" catholic church for 20 years. Masses were still in latin, and one must go to confession prior to receiving communion if one was in the state of mortal sin. They believe that the seat of Rome has not been filled for many, many years. The latter part of your statement is not true though Steven. We were not allowed to attend a modern day Catholic church, or a church ceremony of any other religion as it is considered to be wrong and yes a sin. Yes, true traditional catholics do believe that salvation is for Catholics only. I don't know what kind of Traditional Catholic church you go to or use to go to, but yes those are the beliefs. And, there aren't many Traditional Catholic churches around anymore due to them NOT believing in the Pope therefore the DIOCES shutting them down. Our church was shut down and moved several times due to this and was eventually moved over into Canada.

I am sure you will find a way to argue with what I have just said, but if you like, I can have our Father give you a ring??

I am Roman Catholic.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Essentially Mel Gibson is a member of an 'extreme' branch of Catholicism then...?

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....My 2 Cents Worth....

What be the reaction/ outcry if he was a "Normal Person" not "Famous"?

It wouldn't even get a page 48 in any publication or newspaper?

Must of been a slow news day for it to hit most front pages on newspapers,

And nearly a whole show on Entertainment Tonight was dedicated to this story...

And what does the "Alledged Statements" have to do with his "Alledged DUI AND SPEEDING"?

He got court speeding and dui.. if you and i got pulled over for same thing,

Would the Officer write down everything he / she said?

No they wouldn't.... Just Newspapers and Magazines filling their publications,

with here say....

Wonder if the person responsible for leaking "Alledged statement",

wasn't just looking for his / her 15 minutes of fame.

I love all Cultures so i am not "bashing anyone"

The above statements are my opinion.

There is something i read somewhere....

Freedom of Speech.. it's in the United States Constitution.

God Bless AMERICA , and all that reside (and soon to be residing)

Cheers

Paul

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Essentially Mel Gibson is a member of an 'extreme' branch of Catholicism then...?

Yes...

Traditionalist Catholics believe that they are preserving Catholic orthodoxy by refusing to accept certain changes introduced since the Second Vatican Council, changes that have been described as amounting to "a veritable revolution". They claim that the positions now taken by mainstream Catholics would have been considered "Modernist" or "liberal" at the time of the Council, and that they themselves hold to the positions that were then considered "conservative" or "traditional".

Liberal Catholics, conversely, agree that many changes have taken place in the Church, but affirm that these changes are in fact desirable, since Church teachings and practices prior to the 1960s were in need of major reform.

...I remember as a boy when women wore veils over their faces during Mass. It appears to be that some resist change seeing that tradition for tradition sake takes precedent over enlightenment.

[Laura_and_IanM 0]

Essentially Mel Gibson is a member of an 'extreme' branch of Catholicism then...?

In a word...yes..lol. If you want to call it that. Here is a link to traditional catholic beliefs...

http://www.traditio.com/tradlib/faq10.txt

By marrying somone outside of his faith, the marriage is not even recognised by the church. They say that it is allowed, but can only be performed by the catholic church and it has to be traditional. Not the modern catholic church. It is a bit confusing to those who have not been brought up on it lol. To give a brief rundown, the catholic church was losing its followers so in 1962, they modernised it...leaving behind the latin masses, the missals (therefore taking over with the use of catholic bibles), the need for confession in order to get communion,...etc...It is the Traditional Catholic belief that the seat of Rome has not been filled since before the reform of the Second Vatican Council in 1960.

Here is another link...for those that may be interested. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditionalist_Catholic

LJ

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What I thought was interesting was the author's hypothesis about Mel Gibson's choice to narrow the movie's focus on Jesus' physical suffering in what I also agree was a very sadist view.

Why is it sadist to accurately depict the crucifixion? From articles I have read, Gibson did pain-staking research to accurately depict the events, from the flogging to the crucifixion itself, and his portrayal has been considered very accurate by experts.

Seems like some people want to sugar-coat Christ's death and not think about what he suffered physically. I think it is good for the world, especially Christians, to see a realistic portrayal of His suffering.

That's not true...

He looks at them with unspoken defiance, provoking them to greater determination to break his will by beating him into submission (not unlike an abusive parent with a defiant child). This scene is not in the Bible. Yet, there it is going on before us in brutal sadistic detail made all the more horrific, because, as the fllm makes clear, Jesus has chosen crucifixion.

Sugar coat? Huh? Who ever sugar coated the crucifixion? It's a matter of focus.

That's the opinion of one person. I saw the movie several times, and I did not consider it excessively brutal or sadistic (and I am not a blood-thirsty savage). I considered it a realistic interpretation. I don't know who the guy is that wrote that piece, but I don't consider him any more of an expert than I am.

I'm not accusing you personally of sugar-coating the crucifixion, but it seems like a lot of the folks I've encountered who complain about the movie say it was too bloody, too gorey...well, that's what killing someone is. If you skip over that, you are skipping over an important part of the story.

At any rate, none of this has anything to do with Mel Gibson driving drunk

Viva Mexico, ITA with you here....

[mmmbop1976 1]

mel gibson's dui arrest only shows that we are all subject to the human condition, we all fall short in the eyes of God

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

mel gibson's dui arrest only shows that we are all subject to the human condition, we all fall short in the eyes of God

The DUI would have been a passing story if Mel hadn't made a racist outburst. That's really what this is about - a famous guy in the public eye, who holds less than politically correct views.

[lostinlove228 0]

people really needs to get over this whole mel gibson thing. He is just an actor. Who cares what he believes or thinks.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

people really needs to get over this whole mel gibson thing. He is just an actor. Who cares what he believes or thinks.

The people who read and follow celebrity news. Of which there is a huge market and audience base.