Do you truly love your fiancé???

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Even if it's a tall moose, there might be "underlying" parts you'd hit... make one hell of a hood ornament and an interesting conversation piece.

be sure to use the local bears to your advantage! Let her see a couple of them...you will never sleep on the couch again!

[SandT 0]

Sure. We've discussed it at length, and it may well happen at some point. I've spent a few months there with us living together, and while some things would be less than ideal, like healthcare IMO, our normal living expenses there are entirely doable on a pretty low amount. Granted, we might not as easily have some "luxury money," but it wouldn't be too difficult financially. The weather on the other hand...

[Brad and Vika 129]

Sure. We've discussed it at length, and it may well happen at some point. I've spent a few months there with us living together, and while some things would be less than ideal, like healthcare IMO, our normal living expenses there are entirely doable on a pretty low amount. Granted, we might not as easily have some "luxury money," but it wouldn't be too difficult financially. The weather on the other hand...

What will you do for a living?

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

I love my wife, but no way in h*ll would I live in Belarus. It's a wannabe miniature USSR..it even comes with a real life dictator. Any country that keeps statues of Lenin around can go choke itself IMO. On another note, Belarus is a fantastic country to visit...especially if your single. It's full of hot chicks, and a few decent night clubs and strip clubs in Minsk.

[SMR 368]

I love my wife, but no way in h*ll would I live in Belarus. It's a wannabe miniature USSR..it even comes with a real life dictator. Any country that keeps statues of Lenin around can go choke itself IMO. On another note, Belarus is a fantastic country to visit...especially if your single. It's full of hot chicks, and a few decent night clubs and strip clubs in Minsk.

I agree there are problems in Belarus. But I think you need to do some research on Lenin. It's impossible to say what he would have done if he had lived, but up until he died, the Communist government was not particularly abusive or oppressive. You can blame Stalin for that.

[Martyshk 137]

I agree there are problems in Belarus. But I think you need to do some research on Lenin. It's impossible to say what he would have done if he had lived, but up until he died, the Communist government was not particularly abusive or oppressive. You can blame Stalin for that.

Plus, taking all the statues down is too much pain in the a$$. I couldn't care less if there are any Lenin statues left.

I think Simferopol still has 2 at least and the government in Ukraine is far from dictatorship. So yeah, who cares.

[mox 298]

Any country that keeps statues of Lenin around can go choke itself IMO.

Books are fun and interesting. You might want to read one or a couple. Might help you understand why the Lenin statues are kept standing.

[Martyshk 137]

I agree there are problems in Belarus. But I think you need to do some research on Lenin. It's impossible to say what he would have done if he had lived, but up until he died, the Communist government was not particularly abusive or oppressive. You can blame Stalin for that.

Also, to add to that.... Lenin was a socialist idealist, basing his principles on Marx's teachings.

If anyone ever read Marx, they would understand why his writings are so profound and still apply to many countries to this date.

I have no problems whatsoever with Lenin statues. It's a part of history.

Stalin, on the other hand.... well..... let's just say my grandfather spent 3 years in prison for ..... wait for it..... Assassination attempt on Stalin in the city of Gadjach!!!! Funny eh? Yeah... no. There were lots of people like that sitting in prison or being executed for no reason. And we know it. That's why one won't find any Stalin statues anywhere anymore.

Books are fun and interesting. You might want to read one or a couple. Might help you understand why the Lenin statues are kept standing.

Someone in the off-topic forums has an awesome signature about it..... it's a comic from Penny Arcade.... I has to go find it now.....

[Martyshk 137]

Books are fun and interesting. You might want to read one or a couple. Might help you understand why the Lenin statues are kept standing.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Books are fun and interesting. You might want to read one or a couple. Might help you understand why the Lenin statues are kept standing.

Iv'e read plenty on Lenin...you might want to do a google on "Cheka", Red Terror" and "grain requesitioning" for starters. Lenin may have not been the monster Stalin was, but only for the fact Lenin's life ended early. And why are those statues kept standing? For the same fact Russians love their Stalin and rue the fall of the Soviet Union. Tsar Putin is nothing more than an extension of what Lenin helped to create. Cheka, NKVD, KGB, FSB...and now you have Tsar Putin, and a one party Russia. Russians never had a presidential election that they didn't already now the out come, and most likely things aren't going to change anytime soon.

[Martyshk 137]

Iv'e read plenty on Lenin...you might want to do a google on "Cheka", Red Terror" and "grain requesitioning" for starters. Lenin may have not been the monster Stalin was, but only for the fact Lenin's life ended early. And why are those statues kept standing? For the same fact Russians love their Stalin and rue the fall of the Soviet Union. Tsar Putin is nothing more than an extension of what Lenin helped to create. Cheka, NKVD, KGB, FSB...and now you have Tsar Putin, and a one party Russia. Russians never had a presidential election that they didn't already now the out come, and most likely things aren't going to change anytime soon.

I think you should've married VV instead...

[visaveteran 1]

Iv'e read plenty on Lenin...you might want to do a google on "Cheka", Red Terror" and "grain requesitioning" for starters. Lenin may have not been the monster Stalin was, but only for the fact Lenin's life ended early. And why are those statues kept standing? For the same fact Russians love their Stalin and rue the fall of the Soviet Union. Tsar Putin is nothing more than an extension of what Lenin helped to create. Cheka, NKVD, KGB, FSB...and now you have Tsar Putin, and a one party Russia. Russians never had a presidential election that they didn't already now the out come, and most likely things aren't going to change anytime soon.

Well said and Amen.

The Bolsheviks were ruthless, peasant thugs and Lenin promoted this.

From http://encyclopedia.farlex.com/Lenin,+Vladimir+Ilyich:

Lenin led the Bolshevik government through the Russian civil war and appointed Leon Trotsky as commander of the Red Army. Lenin and Trotsky were able to defeat attack at home and from abroad, even though they controlled less than one third of the country. However, to ensure victory Lenin pursued war communism, a ruthless and often violent policy that allowed the Red Army to seize the food of Russian peasants with only worthless paper currency as compensation. Those who opposed the measures of war communism were brutally treated. Lenin personally signed orders for the execution of whole villages to scare the local population into compliance with Red Army demands. Lenin introduced the Cheka secret police with powers to execute anyone believed to be an enemy of the state. During the Kronstadt uprising of 1921, a mutiny of sailors at the Kronstadt naval base, he ordered the Red Army to attack the base, despite the sailors' contribution to Bolshevik victory in the 1917 revolution; many sailors were killed or later executed as traitors.

Some of you guys are a real trip...making out like Lenin was a really nice, benevolent leader. Revisionists.

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Some of you guys are a real trip...making out like Lenin was a really nice, benevolent leader. Revisionists.

Revision of history.... sans the reason you hear a lot in Russia in regards to "Great Patriatic War", yet Russians don't say much about the "Molotov - Ribbentrop Pact", the "Soviet invasion of Poland", "Katyn Forest Massacre", "The occupation of the Baltics", or how the USSR was NAZI Germany's #1 trading partner up until Operation Barbarossa. The USSR even lent a naval base to the NAZI's so that Hitler could go around the Allied blockade that was set by the Brits.

Edited April 6, 2010 by Why_Me

[baron555 934]

For the same fact Russians love their Stalin and rue the fall of the Soviet Union

That is because their programming tells them to think this way. Make no bones about it; the government controlled the schools and instructed the students accordingly on what is acceptable behavior.

Alla and I had a very nice and revealing conversation about her childhood schooling (programming) one night a bit ago after consuming a bottle of nice Merlot. She also told me about how she became to be a blond after moving to Moscow some years ago from southern Russia. Very interesting indeed; and it wasn't to pick up guys.

This last weeked we toured around the old bunkers of the former Joliet Army Ammunition Arsenal (now Federal Tallgrass Prarie grounds) and how many of the munitions manufactured there made theire way via the North Atlantic to help Mother Russia (something the history books in Russia fail to mention, like Lend Lease).

The Allies backed Stalin because he was against the common German enemy but revealed their true feelingsupon meeting in Berlin.

Yes yes Russia is a beautiful country with beautiful people, who love it there (but most would make improvfements if they could).

Edited April 6, 2010 by baron555

[mox 298]

As I said, you might want to read a book to learn why the statues are kept up. I don't think any of us here need a lecture on who Lenin actually was.