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Getting paid under the table or work for cash, is not illegal. I did it for years, as long as you file taxes on your income tax and report the income. I would just keep a ledger with the amounts and dates I was paid. Now as far as working without a permit, when you are married to a USC, it is usually forgiven. But if you get caught in a raid or something that's where the troubles can start.

Hmmm.....where do you get this information from? Working without a permit isn't forgiven, from what I've read. Do you have documentation for this, cause this is the first I've heard of it. It is ILLEGAL to work without an EAD, being the immigrant without a green card. Being caught in a raid...if that's where the trouble starts then that indicates to me that it would be wrong altogether.

I am not sure how many more times I need to say this, but a K1 is authorised to work, the issue is evidence.

The situations you are talking about involve people who EWI'd, and even then they are usually released.

The employer is from a practical point of view the one most at risk. But 10,000,000 plus people go to work everyday without work authorisation, probably the majority of those who adjust status in the US have worked illegally.

Still waiting for an answer on the 10 year ban.

PLEASE excuse my obvious ignorance. I assure you, you won't have to repeat this on MY accout again.

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Yes you are asking about illegal work.... and trying to find a way that will make it ok to do.... if you dont have the authority to work then dont do it.... there is no other answer....

Kezzie

I know that I asked about it but we are not going to do it. I know that it would be illegal that is why my husband did not take the job. I was just simply asking people's opinions and experiences with this topic. I don't want anyone to think that we doing something illegal here. Because we definetely are not going to take that risk!

Diana

In your original post, he had not decided yet that he would not take the job. Reread the beginning post. You were contemplating doing something illegal ... you even asked about the risk of getting caught so you must have known it was illegal.

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I was told by the immigration officer at my AOS meeting that because my work authorisation granted at JFK had expired, I would have to give up work immediately and apply for EAD or risk being deported if I was caught working.

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Yes you are asking about illegal work.... and trying to find a way that will make it ok to do.... if you dont have the authority to work then dont do it.... there is no other answer....

Kezzie

I know that I asked about it but we are not going to do it. I know that it would be illegal that is why my husband did not take the job. I was just simply asking people's opinions and experiences with this topic. I don't want anyone to think that we doing something illegal here. Because we definetely are not going to take that risk!

Diana

In your original post, he had not decided yet that he would not take the job. Reread the beginning post. You were contemplating doing something illegal ... you even asked about the risk of getting caught so you must have known it was illegal.

I am unsure as to what you are saying here. I know that I always knew it was illegal I never said otherwise and as I pointed out in another post I said that I was always skeptical about the situation. I just thought that this was the one place I could get opinions from people without a hard time. Like I said before I didn't think or want this post to turn into a big deal. It was a temptation to take this job and I guess I was looking for people to talk us out of it! Which with that and common sense it definetely did. When you get desperate enough about something it is very easy to do something stupid! I am sorry if you misunderstood me.

Diana

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K1

01/09/06- pakage sent to NSC

01/11/06- NOA1

03/16/06- NOA2 approved!!!

04/03/06- arrived at NVC

04/04/06- left NVC

04/08/06- received packet 3

04/11/06- sent packet 3 to Frankfurt

04/26/06- received packet 4

05/23/06- INTERVIEW at 9:30amAPPROVED!!!!

06/01/06- visa in hand!!!

06/08/06- married in Vegas!!!

AOS/EAD

06/24/06- sent AOS and EAD package to Chicago

06/27/06- Chicago receives package

06/30/06- NOA1

07/03/06- NOA1 received in the mail

07/17/06- biometrics appt. received in mail

07/25/06- biometrics in cleveland

08/30/06- case received at CSC

08/31/06- received a new NOA1 email

09/01/06- touched AOS

09/15/06- AOS APPROVED!! got email saying welcome letter was sent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

09/20/06- welcome letter received!!! and approval email sent

09/21/06- touched and GREENCARD RECEIVED!!!!!

06/08/07- one year anniversary

06/08/08- two year anniversary

06/08/09- three year anniversary

Removal of Conditions

06/17/08- package sent to California

06/19/08- California receives package

06/19/08-NOA1

06/28/08-Biometrics appointment

07/28/08-touched

09/01/08-received non conditional green card

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We went to the local USCIS center via infopass when my husband's temp EAD expired. We specifically asked if he could continue to work while he was waiting for his EAD. She said "well, we don't usually tell people to work, but since he already had permission to work and he's applied for AOS and fulfilled the requirements of the visa, it's ok for him to continue to work, as long as his employer is ok with it. It' won't affect his greencard application. "

Take that for whatever it's worth.

and then another quote:

"I was told by the immigration officer at my AOS meeting that because my work authorisation granted at JFK had expired, I would have to give up work immediately and apply for EAD or risk being deported if I was caught working."

so who to believe??

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I know that it would be illegal

(open comments, not just to the quoted OP)

Really, was that determined? 32 posts and everyone ignored Boiler's & noviademexicano's comments?

Is it just as irresponsible for The Group to say something is "not ok" when it is, as to say that something is "ok" when it is not?

It's OK to not answer if you dont' know the answer. Might learn something new every now and again.

I am unsure as to what you are saying here. I know that I always knew it was illegal I never said otherwise and as I pointed out in another post I said that I was always skeptical about the situation. I just thought that this was the one place I could get opinions from people without a hard time. Like I said before I didn't think or want this post to turn into a big deal. It was a temptation to take this job and I guess I was looking for people to talk us out of it! Which with that and common sense it definetely did. When you get desperate enough about something it is very easy to do something stupid! I am sorry if you misunderstood me.

Diana

Diana, I believe that individuals should research their own answers after getting information on a discussion group. How do you know who here is giving you the right info? Those who shout loudest? Or the biggest crowd? The oldest? The cutest? :)

Of course, your motivation to find the answer will depend greatly on your desire for the result (work, in this case). Either way is fine, but you should know the answer for yourself, so that *you* are making your decisions.

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PaulC,

Find and read the laws underlying the issue - that will tell you who was correct.

Note that few, but possibly some, local USCIS officers are likely to belawyers or to have been trained in the law. They have been trained in the policies and procedures that the USCIS uses to implement the law, but that is not the same thing.

Yodrak

We went to the local USCIS center via infopass when my husband's temp EAD expired. We specifically asked if he could continue to work while he was waiting for his EAD. She said "well, we don't usually tell people to work, but since he already had permission to work and he's applied for AOS and fulfilled the requirements of the visa, it's ok for him to continue to work, as long as his employer is ok with it. It' won't affect his greencard application. "

Take that for whatever it's worth.

and then another quote:

"I was told by the immigration officer at my AOS meeting that because my work authorisation granted at JFK had expired, I would have to give up work immediately and apply for EAD or risk being deported if I was caught working."

so who to believe??

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I know that it would be illegal

(open comments, not just to the quoted OP)

Really, was that determined? 32 posts and everyone ignored Boiler's & noviademexicano's comments?

Is it just as irresponsible for The Group to say something is "not ok" when it is, as to say that something is "ok" when it is not?

It's OK to not answer if you dont' know the answer. Might learn something new every now and again.

I am unsure as to what you are saying here. I know that I always knew it was illegal I never said otherwise and as I pointed out in another post I said that I was always skeptical about the situation. I just thought that this was the one place I could get opinions from people without a hard time. Like I said before I didn't think or want this post to turn into a big deal. It was a temptation to take this job and I guess I was looking for people to talk us out of it! Which with that and common sense it definetely did. When you get desperate enough about something it is very easy to do something stupid! I am sorry if you misunderstood me.

Diana

Diana, I believe that individuals should research their own answers after getting information on a discussion group. How do you know who here is giving you the right info? Those who shout loudest? Or the biggest crowd? The oldest? The cutest? :)

Of course, your motivation to find the answer will depend greatly on your desire for the result (work, in this case). Either way is fine, but you should know the answer for yourself, so that *you* are making your decisions.

Thank you for this nice response. You make alot of sense and I have realized some of this myself already :D We did make the decision not to work because it is what we felt was right in the end and thats what matters! Thanks again!!!

Diana

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K1

01/09/06- pakage sent to NSC

01/11/06- NOA1

03/16/06- NOA2 approved!!!

04/03/06- arrived at NVC

04/04/06- left NVC

04/08/06- received packet 3

04/11/06- sent packet 3 to Frankfurt

04/26/06- received packet 4

05/23/06- INTERVIEW at 9:30amAPPROVED!!!!

06/01/06- visa in hand!!!

06/08/06- married in Vegas!!!

AOS/EAD

06/24/06- sent AOS and EAD package to Chicago

06/27/06- Chicago receives package

06/30/06- NOA1

07/03/06- NOA1 received in the mail

07/17/06- biometrics appt. received in mail

07/25/06- biometrics in cleveland

08/30/06- case received at CSC

08/31/06- received a new NOA1 email

09/01/06- touched AOS

09/15/06- AOS APPROVED!! got email saying welcome letter was sent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

09/20/06- welcome letter received!!! and approval email sent

09/21/06- touched and GREENCARD RECEIVED!!!!!

06/08/07- one year anniversary

06/08/08- two year anniversary

06/08/09- three year anniversary

Removal of Conditions

06/17/08- package sent to California

06/19/08- California receives package

06/19/08-NOA1

06/28/08-Biometrics appointment

07/28/08-touched

09/01/08-received non conditional green card

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I have seen people deported under suspicion of working illeagllylet alone being caught doing this, If it is discovered you did work and lied about it, that is grounds for immediate denial of your application,

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I have seen people deported under suspicion of working illeagllylet alone being caught doing this, If it is discovered you did work and lied about it, that is grounds for immediate denial of your application,

That is not quite right..... read this from USCIS

You may be ineligible for adjustment to permanent resident status if:

You entered the U.S. while you were in transit to another country without obtaining a visa.

You entered the U.S. while you were a nonimmigrant crewman.

You were not admitted or paroled into the United States after being inspected by a U.S. Immigration inspector.

You are employed in the United States without USCIS authorization or you are no longer legally in the country (except through no fault of your own or for some technical reason). This rule does not apply to you if:

You are the immediate relative of a U.S. citizen (parent, spouse, or unmarried child under 21 years old).

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I have seen people deported under suspicion of working illeagllylet alone being caught doing this, If it is discovered you did work and lied about it, that is grounds for immediate denial of your application,

That is not quite right..... read this from USCIS

K, I almost bit too---the quote does say "and lied about it.." which *would* be a major no-no.

I do believe incorrect conclusions may have been drawn in this thread, tho, & hate to see them left hanging there.

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yeah.....i think your husband should be just as worried as the other 12 million plus illegals from mexico are worried aswell for "working under the table".....and they arent worried at all! lol

but as Yodrak said..its with the IRS,...

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yeah.....i think your husband should be just as worried as the other 12 million plus illegals from mexico are worried aswell for "working under the table".....and they arent worried at all! lol

There's a difference though, those illegals aren't going through AOS.

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yeah.....i think your husband should be just as worried as the other 12 million plus illegals from mexico are worried aswell for "working under the table".....and they arent worried at all! lol

There's a difference though, those illegals aren't going through AOS.

Many are.

Probably in some countries the majority EWI'd to the US and worked illegally.

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Many are.

Probably in some countries the majority EWI'd to the US and worked illegally.

I meant, the "majority of illegals".

But yes, I know people who now have green cards that lived and worked illegally in this country. Would I recommend it to someone who is so far law abiding? Definitely not.

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