USCIS... DENIALS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN...

[A and T 82]

My 50 cents, I think sex offenders, as in any man or woman who has sexual contact with any other person against their will should be locked up in a dungeon never to be released again and suffer for the rest of their lives without any contact with the outside world untill they go to hell and suffer more.

" I think sex offenders, as in any man or woman who has sexual contact with any other person against their will "

I agree, but keep in mind in the usa a lot of people that are sex offenders are not people that did things against someones will.

Consensual sex can still be considered rape based on age and state , each state has different rules/limits. One state you could be a sex offender, another, you could be perfectly legal. The rules are not across the board.

[v333k 59]

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[DeniseBill 4]

" I think sex offenders, as in any man or woman who has sexual contact with any other person against their will "

I agree, but keep in mind in the usa a lot of people that are sex offenders are not people that did things against someones will.

Consensual sex can still be considered rape based on age and state , each state has different rules/limits. One state you could be a sex offender, another, you could be perfectly legal. The rules are not across the board.

I know, thats why I said the "against their will" I know with the underage thing etc.

@cls0881:I am specificially talking about those that have sexual contact with others against their will. Good luck finding one that does not eventually fall back into their old ways. Once blood's been tasted.... Did their time? As in what jail? What about the victim, most will be able to live with it eventually. but theyre signed for life, so should the felon.

I speak from experiences....

You can have your opinions, sure I will never try to change your mind, but I will never give a rapist a second chance for that is like giving my exbf a second chance, and I rather die than to forgive him.

Anyway, that is how I feel and think and will not reply anymore

Edited April 11, 2010 by DeniseBill

[DeniseBill 4]

ps. Sex offender as in people that had sexual contact with a minor with their approval I think should have a second chance.

(couldn't edit my last post)

Edited April 11, 2010 by DeniseBill

[Dakine 26]

if you are a sex-offender and you are convicted and you apply for a K1 visa the USCIS will deny you! the Adam Walsh Act is clear that you are excluded unless you can prove that you are NOt a threat to your fiancee'! i hope that you can satisfy them if you apply...

any ideas?

is anyone interested in bringing a lawsuit against USCIS for this issue?

Does that apply to CR and IRs?

Sucks if it doesn't.

[lemmony 1]

The USCIS is simply following a law (Adam Walsh Act) that was passed by Congress and signed by the President... The USCIS would not be the appropriate party to sue here but the US government.

Adam Walsh Act is well known and has been effective for several years now (2006?). If it was something unconstitutional, I would have thought the ACLU would have been after this already.

So, no I am not interested in bringing a lawsuit... good luck

The ACLU along with others have been and are working threw the courts to take legal action.. Unfortunately some times it can take years before cases progress threw the courts to achieve results.. The Supreme Court is actually hearing oral arguments this month on Adam Walsh retro-activity I believe.

[lemmony 1]

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hell no ! i applaud the goverment. wish they would tighten the restrictions on passports to sex offenders. then they would not be able to travel to other countries at all

Interesting you should feel that way with absolutely no information or having educated yourself on anything you speak on I am sure?

Funny how the least educated are usually the ones with the loudest opinions. Most Likely why they say don't waste time arguing with a fool because no one will be able to determine who is whom..

First for the record: 'sex offenders' unfortunately is a term used to describe a way to broad range of individuals.Seems anything that can get a crooked politician elected, or help them hide from their own dirty laundry..Most likely the modern day Salem 'witch hunt' or McCarthyism 'commie hunt".. Anyone from Peeing on a tree, teenager caught mooning someone from a car,concentual sex, lewd and lasciviousness work place joke some up tight prude doesn't like, making out in the back seat of a car and getting busted, streaking, accidental porn pop-up, to the obvios pedophiles and rapists...

MY only point in noting all this is that you really should know what you are talking about before randomly running your mouth off in some bigot redneck beer can chime fashion..

Not everyone is guilty of some heinous crime, unfortunately becuse their is to much politics involved and no-one has ever accused politicians of over reaching in the brain power department to many teenagers and young men and women are being lumped in with a category they really don't belong in..

Edited October 9, 2011 by lemmony

[lemmony 1]

I know, thats why I said the "against their will" I know with the underage thing etc.

@cls0881:I am specificially talking about those that have sexual contact with others against their will. Good luck finding one that does not eventually fall back into their old ways. Once blood's been tasted.... Did their time? As in what jail? What about the victim, most will be able to live with it eventually. but theyre signed for life, so should the felon.

I speak from experiences....

You can have your opinions, sure I will never try to change your mind, but I will never give a rapist a second chance for that is like giving my exbf a second chance, and I rather die than to forgive him.

Anyway, that is how I feel and think and will not reply anymore

I agree it is often hard to forgive those that have harmed us but if I may make a note that I hope can help? In my personal life I have been wronged many times as well..Some things way to personal and terrible to relate on a public forum.

One thing I have learned thou is that forgiving the person and moving on is not something you do for them, it is something you need to do for yourself. Until you forgive them and leave it to God to handle the harm is still being done inside of you. Harm to you not to them. Forgiveness is about not hurting yourself any more. It does not matter if it is a murder, rape, beating, drug incident, burglary or what ever the pain and the suffering does not stop until you forgive . It is not easy I understand more then you may beleive but it is necessary for yourself and for the ones you love. As long as you carry the grudge your loved ones carry it as well.

lol well sorry.. enough rambling from me.. Best of luck and hope you have a great life from hear on out )

[kazuava 4]

I know, thats why I said the "against their will" I know with the underage thing etc.

@cls0881:I am specificially talking about those that have sexual contact with others against their will. Good luck finding one that does not eventually fall back into their old ways. Once blood's been tasted.... Did their time? As in what jail? What about the victim, most will be able to live with it eventually. but theyre signed for life, so should the felon.

I speak from experiences....

You can have your opinions, sure I will never try to change your mind, but I will never give a rapist a second chance for that is like giving my exbf a second chance, and I rather die than to forgive him.

Anyway, that is how I feel and think and will not reply anymore

If only it was so easy!

That is why my husband, who is not even in a registry (get an idea of what kind of "rapist" he is?) can't get his petition approved for me, his 30 year old wife. And me, his wife, because USCIS prefers to do nothing for 3.5 years of our petition is pending, have to live ... almost like in the underground. I'm not legal (can't work, can't get DL), but not an illigal too... My choices are wait, go back home and quit on out family (gosh, we have 2 kids now together - the result of out 5 years old marriage!!!!!) or get crazy because all I really can do is to be stuck at home and clean, cook, etc. No DL - little driving, no work - no money to babysitting and getting out to enjoy myself (moms need a break!!!).

Is this AWA fare for me, a 30 year old girl? (Kids were born after our marriage and are the US citizens). When I came I had almost completed Masters degree, I was young, succesfuul and fell in love with my husband, I still don't regreat. But that is hard for a person of my personality for 5 years to do nothing, but never-ending chores at home. And that is only because of AWA. No, the law is not fare, but even worth - the way cases are processed (or ignored) is even more unfair! (I agree with an idea, but the way it is handled - is a broken policy!)

But even better - if all of it 'to protect" me, than, USCIS, please, do it faster! If he (my husband) was a monster, he could do a bad thing to me many times by now. THe timelines defeat the purpose of the law!

Really, isn't 3.5 years is enough to read through a file?

[C0881 2]

Kazuava, my heart really goes out to yours when I read your post above. I also remember my life in my home country before I got married. I was having a good job in my home country and had close friends to hang out with. I am not saying I regret marrying my husband. I am just really sad and speechless about this AWA law playing with hundreds of wives' lives like you and me. Apart from the law itself, USCIS's interpretation of the law and the individual officer's personal judgment on our applications did nothing but worsened our situation. The law never mentioned anything like "beyond reasonable doubt", but the interpretation of USCIS does. They are not a law making body but they have every arbitrary right to establish such review standard ? (beyond reasonable doubt is a criminal court review standard) Our husbands are not criminals anymore. I also remember in my denial last year, the officer wrote that the psychological report we submitted is no good because the meeting was short. Such officer with no formal psychological training or degree could make such power comment in his/her decision regarding my future. I miss my mother and friends VERY VERY much. Yet I can't work to share our bills. I can't drive and I had to sit on the passenger side and let him drive to the hospital when HE had ulcer. I can't leave this country without being rejected on return. Kazuava I wish your local office could just approve your case immediately! Your kids are growing up day by day. They are shielded because they were born in the U.S. They are US citizens now. I don't want you to be left behind. Even I am not you, I feel bitter about your case.

[Deputy Purple 1,294]

I am specificially talking about those that have sexual contact with others against their will. Good luck finding one that does not eventually fall back into their old ways. Once blood's been tasted.... Did their time? As in what jail? What about the victim, most will be able to live with it eventually. but theyre signed for life, so should the felon.

I speak from experiences....

You can have your opinions, sure I will never try to change your mind, but I will never give a rapist a second chance for that is like giving my exbf a second chance, and I rather die than to forgive him.

Anyway, that is how I feel and think and will not reply anymore.

Wow, hold on to that hate because it's so healthy for you.

As a victim of any abuse or crime you have the choice as to when you stop being a victim. I was a victim for many years and in my victim mentality I wasn't a very nice person. I didn't care if my actions hurt others because there was always justification for it.

When I finally found it within my self to forgive my abuser (though I will never forget it) I found that a change occurred within myself.

I've seen the issues of Sex Abuse from all sides within my own family and I can tell you from years and years of personal experience working with both victims & offenders that the common stereotypes are wrong.

There will always be those offenders who are beyond redemption but they are in the minority. If the stereotypes were correct then the SOR should have curtailed sex crimes (especially against children) but instead the list just grows and grows. Do you know why? Because about 90% of Sex Crime arrests are previously unknown offenders.

In my life I have:

Known men who have gone over 20 years offense free and are still counting.

I have seen victims forgive their offender and find happiness after recovery.

Been involved in conversations with offenders who simply don't understand how they got to the point where they would do such things.

Seen recovery groups where members have called-out other members in denial of negative patterns and helped support each others' recovery.

I even know a man who after being convicted of molesting his female cousin who was 8 (he was 16 at the time) went on to raise two happy daughters as a single father. They were never abused for the record.

People can heal, victims & offenders, if they want to and most offenders want to heal if given the chance. Part of the problem is that if someone admits to having "offender thoughts" even if they've never offended then Law Enforcement is called in and they are subjugated to interrogation and not left alone until they admit to committing a crime (even if they never did). You tell me where is the support for prevention?

[evli1966 88]

Wow, hold on to that hate because it's so healthy for you.

As a victim of any abuse or crime you have the choice as to when you stop being a victim. I was a victim for many years and in my victim mentality I wasn't a very nice person. I didn't care if my actions hurt others because there was always justification for it.

When I finally found it within my self to forgive my abuser (though I will never forget it) I found that a change occurred within myself.

I've seen the issues of Sex Abuse from all sides within my own family and I can tell you from years and years of personal experience working with both victims & offenders that the common stereotypes are wrong.

There will always be those offenders who are beyond redemption but they are in the minority. If the stereotypes were correct then the SOR should have curtailed sex crimes (especially against children) but instead the list just grows and grows. Do you know why? Because about 90% of Sex Crime arrests are previously unknown offenders.

In my life I have:

Known men who have gone over 20 years offense free and are still counting.

I have seen victims forgive their offender and find happiness after recovery.

Been involved in conversations with offenders who simply don't understand how they got to the point where they would do such things.

Seen recovery groups where members have called-out other members in denial of negative patterns and helped support each others' recovery.

I even know a man who after being convicted of molesting his female cousin who was 8 (he was 16 at the time) went on to raise two happy daughters as a single father. They were never abused for the record.

People can heal, victims & offenders, if they want to and most offenders want to heal if given the chance. Part of the problem is that if someone admits to having "offender thoughts" even if they've never offended then Law Enforcement is called in and they are subjugated to interrogation and not left alone until they admit to committing a crime (even if they never did). You tell me where is the support for prevention?

HOLY

Double AMEN!