casablanca consulate is LOONEYTUNES

[MrsAmera 41]

Just so you know, it is rare for the consulate to give you a second chance. So think through all of the questions that was asked of your husband. Think of all of your possible red flags. Pull together as much documentation you possibly can to take to this interview. Letters of approval of your marriage from both of your families could be beneficial. Don't waste this opportunity. Take it very seriously. If they send it back it is a very long and grueling process.

This is really great advice. Morocco4ever is right. You need to think of what are the items that stand out and are outside the box and are red flags. With those in hand you have to overcome them. Prove the reasons for those and how you overcame them. Was it a short courtship? Is it an age difference? Is it relationship past? Is it something in your SO's past? It might not seem fair but you can get past it if you're cool headed and smart about getting all your proof together.

[JamilahAM 0]

yes..its a 221g but it states that they are returning petition and application back to uscis...i am here in casa now with hubby...i called my congressmen right away yesterday and they called the consulate right away...the consulate then called my hubby about an hour later and told him to come back next week..there was nothing on the form to say why they denied it...from what hubby tells me the CO was asking another CO what to do...he was going to put us in ap until he spoke to the other CO

Does the 221(g) say it is being returned with a request that USCIS revoke or review the petition. I agree the second interview is a miracle. Someone else posted today about their husband being denied yesterday in Casa as well.

Like the other poster said review questions they asked your husband and his answers and demeanor. All of them. What evidence did he take? Take more next week.

[sandrasellam 0]

yesterday my hubby was out and out denied while i stood and watched alot of k-1 people and women come out the consulate smiling and happy...what a crock!!!

no ap/ar...they said they were sending it back and didn't believe my hubby....i went to the window and of course they wouldn't let me in to speak to anyone...i called all my state rep. right away and the consulate called and gave us another appt set for next week....

i am very angry about this. ...more than angry...someone from the govt needs to look into what is happening at this consulate...alot of good honest people are getting denied for no valid reason...

what i would like to know is...if anyone had this occur in casa and what was the outcome of their second interview? also if they can put us in ap after a denial or have to approve it or what?...we are not sure what to do now....i want to be one step ahead for whatever happens...does anyone have any input on this type of situation?....and how do i file a rebuttal if it is needed?

hubby told me that the CO went and returned several times to talk to another CO...he was going to put us in AP at first then after he spoke with the other CO he returned and said denied...

any help and advice will be greatly appreciated alot.....thanks everyone

OMG! my husband too got the same respond treated him unfairly and said they were sending it back to the USCIS with no good valid reason. We need aswell to know where we go from here what to do.....

[JamilahAM 0]

OMG! my husband too got the same respond treated him unfairly and said they were sending it back to the USCIS with no good valid reason. We need aswell to know where we go from here what to do.....

Yes, I read your posting and I sent you a message.

Did you read the pinned thread? If possible try to get your husband to tell you every word that was said between him and the CO. Every word.

The road ahead for both of you is very hard but it is not impossible to overcome. Kiyah is good source of info here on VJ. She will offer you very sound advice. Take heed.

Did one of you get your elected official to call the CO on your behalf and get you second interview for next week? Who ever did that was very lucky and the other one should follow suit.

In the mean time try to calm down (hard I know) and get ALL the info from your SO.

[TracyHamza 1]

Yes, I read your posting and I sent you a message.

Did you read the pinned thread? If possible try to get your husband to tell you every word that was said between him and the CO. Every word.

The road ahead for both of you is very hard but it is not impossible to overcome. Kiyah is good source of info here on VJ. She will offer you very sound advice. Take heed.

Did one of you get your elected official to call the CO on your behalf and get you second interview for next week? Who ever did that was very lucky and the other one should follow suit.

In the mean time try to calm down (hard I know) and get ALL the info from your SO.

yes i contacted my state rep. immediately and they managed to get us a swift reply...i am very grateful and hopefully we will have a better outcome...the CO questioned my husband for over an hour so it will be difficult to remember all but we will try to review as much as possible...the CO that interviewed him was the same one who denied his tourist visa back in june when my husband wanted to come to be with me for my surgery...

[JamilahAM 0]

yes i contacted my state rep. immediately and they managed to get us a swift reply...i am very grateful and hopefully we will have a better outcome...the CO questioned my husband for over an hour so it will be difficult to remember all but we will try to review as much as possible...the CO that interviewed him was the same one who denied his tourist visa back in june when my husband wanted to come to be with me for my surgery...

Over an hour? Wow! How was his demeanor?

I was in the US Consulate on 1/14 and overheard a portion of a immigrant visa interview. The CO was a slim, young white guy no more than 25 with a short light brown hair cut. He was assisted by a local Moroccan but the SO of the USC spoke perfect English. The CO told him, "Listen we think all marriages between Moroccans and Americans are based on fraud. So hey". I thought I was going to die.

The SO held his composure and insisted he loved his wife. The CO asked him what was the name of his wife's favorite tv show(duh how would anyone prove honesty here?) and he when he told him, Stargate SG1 the CO told him he never heard of it. Living here in Morocco it only comes on every other hour on Fox Series. LOL So I now he was lying.

After an hour he told the SO that he was granting him a visa and that they would call him within 2 weeks. I literally walked out the door with the SO and he was cursing a storm in Arabic under his breath but his demeanor in front of the CO was polite and contrite.

At one point in the interview the CO asked me to tell him never mind, as the SO was trying to go to his seat and get photos. It was empty in the Consulate so even with the telephone you could hear EVERY word of the convo.

[TracyHamza 1]

Over an hour? Wow! How was his demeanor?

I was in the US Consulate on 1/14 and overheard a portion of a immigrant visa interview. The CO was a slim, young white guy no more than 25 with a short light brown hair cut. He was assisted by a local Moroccan but the SO of the USC spoke perfect English. The CO told him, "Listen we think all marriages between Moroccans and Americans are based on fraud. So hey". I thought I was going to die.

The SO held his composure and insisted he loved his wife. The CO asked him what was the name of his wife's favorite tv show(duh how would anyone prove honesty here?) and he when he told him, Stargate SG1 the CO told him he never heard of it. Living here in Morocco it only comes on every other hour on Fox Series. LOL So I now he was lying.

After an hour he told the SO that he was granting him a visa and that they would call him within 2 weeks. I literally walked out the door with the SO and he was cursing a storm in Arabic under his breath but his demeanor in front of the CO was polite and contrite.

At one point in the interview the CO asked me to tell him never mind, as the SO was trying to go to his seat and get photos. It was empty in the Consulate so even with the telephone you could hear EVERY word of the convo.

he told me he was very calm after the first question and answered all...the CO tried to tell anas several times that i had been married 3 times before him and my husband stood firm and told him NO my wife wouldn't lie to me and i know exactly how many marriages she had....the only thing that anas stumbled on was when i was a child i lived with my grandparents and they changed my last name to theirs...i honestly forgot that i had put that on the application..so the CO lied to my husband and tried to say i was married with this name....

the CO that u talk about was not the interviewer for my husband but the CO who interviewed him went and spoke to this young CO and when he returned he said denied

[msheesha 548]

What kind of proof did you provide?

[TracyHamza 1]

What kind of proof did you provide?

lots of emails, video chats, print outs of video chats, phone bills from both of us, emails from my family to my husband, pictures....the CO barely glanced at any of this from what my husband tells me....he had the same CO interview him that interviewed him back in June..he applied for a tourist visa in June to come be with me for my surgery and was denied by this same man who told him he was sorry but to wait for his CR-1 visa....this whole process is utterly ridiculious!!!!

we are preparing to take my life insurance, and written statements from his side of the family stating approval of relationship and how long they have known we are together..things like that

[JamilahAM 0]

lots of emails, video chats, print outs of video chats, phone bills from both of us, emails from my family to my husband, pictures....the CO barely glanced at any of this from what my husband tells me....he had the same CO interview him that interviewed him back in June..he applied for a tourist visa in June to come be with me for my surgery and was denied by this same man who told him he was sorry but to wait for his CR-1 visa....this whole process is utterly ridiculious!!!!

we are preparing to take my life insurance, and written statements from his side of the family stating approval of relationship and how long they have known we are together..things like that

Those are good. Did you get clearance to go with him next week?

[MrsAmera 41]

What about proof of your time together - plane stubs, passport entry and exit stamps, photos of you with his family etc.?

[TracyHamza 1]

Those are good. Did you get clearance to go with him next week?

sent another email to rep blackberry and waiting for response to see if they can help get me in

[TracyHamza 1]

What about proof of your time together - plane stubs, passport entry and exit stamps, photos of you with his family etc.?

yes...he took pics to interview of us with his family...i brought my plane stubs from last trip here but he didn't take them last time....

i know one of the flags we had was that when i came to morocco in Jan 09 2 1/2 wks later we got married...but..we had already known each other for a year before this and he took proof of this in last interview

[TracyHamza 1]

what i find strange about this refusal worksheet is that no other box is checked...not the 212 or not even the further consideration box...just the sect. 221g..and the statement we will return your petition to uscis...blah blah blah....

[morocco4ever 63]

what i find strange about this refusal worksheet is that no other box is checked...not the 212 or not even the further consideration box...just the sect. 221g..and the statement we will return your petition to uscis...blah blah blah....

They rarely give you any reason for the denial. That is why it is important to scrutinize the interview questions and answers as well as your red flags. The fact that you got married shortly after is a red flag, but I don't think that alone would be a good enough reason in their minds to send it back. Is there a large age difference? Does his family know and approve of the marriage? Do you have pictures of yourself with his family? Do you have a lot of pictures of the wedding celebration? Does he have family already in the US? How did you meet? This list could go on and on. This is why it is so important to really put yourself out of the situation and view your case from a third party point of view. You must think like a CO.