New York woman falls, rips Picasso painting

[Peikko 1,575]

Speaking of "damage to others in the name of Art".

If graffiti is legit art, how about someone who victimizes other people catches it on film or Vid for the purposes of bringing this form of "realism art" to the front?

Can drawings or photos of children playing "doctor" also be art?

Only you Danno, could suggest that this has any relevance.

What about the increased cost of doing business in a location? Business owners can be fined if the graffiti is not removed in a timely manner, often as little as 24 hours, at the business owner's expense, or the requirement for the application of graffiti proof coatings.

ETA: They are getting serious! http://www.esri.com/news/arcuser/0609/graffiti.html

The business owner can always re-locate, like all those lazy arsed unemployed people. Real men? #### that, a real man would not be unemployed!

[Danno 1,228]

Only you Danno, could suggest that this has any relevance.

Who'd a thought... MC doing the usual "dodge".

[Peikko 1,575]

Who'd a thought... MC doing the usual "dodge".

Nothing to dodge, your proposition is senseless.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Defacement damages and decreases the value of someone else's property and requires a cost (time, energy, cleaning supplies, etc.) to fix, hence morally at the very least, it is stealing. Windshield flyers wouldn't be defacement, unless the flyer somehow damages the glass or paint of the car. Normally, the car owner doesn't incur a cost in the process of removing the flyer. It might perhaps be considered littering.

I agree with you, Scott. I also don't think that most graffiti is artistic, and nearly all of it is criminal. There are, however, instances of graffiti on wall somewhere that are great pieces of art. That's when the notion of defacement, IMO, isn't so clear. In some cases the graffiti was a beautification and not defacement.

[Danno 1,228]

I agree with you, Scott. I also don't think that most graffiti is artistic, and nearly all of it is criminal. There are, however, instances of graffiti on wall somewhere that are great pieces of art. That's when the notion of defacement, IMO, isn't so clear. In some cases the graffiti was a beautification and not defacement.

And how do you determine which one is which Steve?

[The_Dude 1,142]

And how do you determine which one is which Steve?

I believe Amby posted a few examples of each a few pages back.

[Danno 1,228]

I believe Amby posted a few examples of each a few pages back.

Pointing to extremes is the lazy way to define it.

Care to do better?

And -Should we celebrate this art? Perhaps teach it in school, politics be dammned?

Edited January 27, 2010 by Danno

[Peikko 1,575]

Yes Danno, of course this should be taught in school - as well as paintings on atom bombs, sculpting with fetus and how to make art from stolen goods

[The_Dude 1,142]

Pointing to extremes is the lazy way to define it.

Care to do better?

And -Should we celebrate this art? Perhaps teach it in school, politics be dammned?

Do better? Either you are too lazy to click back a couple of pages, or in denial. Those are hardly extreme examples. If you think so, then you are clearly a neophyte.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

(below is graffiti from Barcelona)

(below - LA, CA)

[Danno 1,228]

As usual, the "broad minded" among us

are shying away from the topic once it leaves talking points.

[Danno 1,228]

Steve, they need to implement this as way to dress up some Butt ugly buildings in the FSU.

[The_Dude 1,142]

As usual, the "broad minded" among us

are shying away from the topic once it leaves talking points.

You clearly have no appreciation or patience for art that you don't understand, or particularly like.

Edited January 27, 2010 by Rob and Mel

[one...two...tree 2,762]

[Peikko 1,575]

As usual, the "broad minded" among us

are shying away from the topic once it leaves talking points.

Danno, the art of graffiti is necessarily anti-establishment. You can't 'teach it in schools' although I am sure there are schools where graffiti art is examined and why not?