56% of all Americans and 58% of those 18-29 yrs old say abortion immoral

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

and if you say it isn't murder, then you could be imposing your morals on the unborn

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If its the mothers choice then its her morals that come into play, if indeed "morals" are the sole guide for the decision.

Which they aren't.

[Anna C. 4]

Before we jump to conclusions about men not understanding the pain of labor I'd like to get a comparison.

Does labor hurt more then a multiple gun shot wound that isn't treated for 18 hours? I'd just like to know.....and to what magnitude.

It feels like a bear with sharp claws repeatedly rips out your lower spine. Once you're through with that, imagine pushing for 3 hours a porcupine out of your urethra. That's what it feels like.

[jundp 191]

uh oh, i'm in 100% agreement. i guess i have to go hug a tree now.

eta: include in the above for life of mother.

I know, right? And I need to go buy a gun.

What if the abortion could save the lives of others? Like what if Hitler's mother wanted to have an abortion? Would that be moral or immoral?

A conundrum to be sure. I believe that what we do with the life we are given is not pre-destined. We have free will. Hitler's free will unfortunately caused devastation. What if he had chosen a different path? What if the people under him had? Some did. Devastation occurred and from it was also blessings. A conundrum.

Please, keep your morals to youself. I promise I will not push for laws requiring you to own a gun or even for laws to force the government to pay for a gun for you if you want it...even though it IS a right. I will live my life and leave you alone and you live your life and leave me alone. I will pay for MY family's medical care, and you pay for your family's medical care. OK? You can go to any church you want on Sunday (or Saturday or Friday) and I will sleep late. You pray to whoever you want and I won't. Deal?

I actually already addressed in a previous post within this thread why I feel thusly about women who are raped. I do still think it's a child. I do not fully agree with abortion in this issue as I have seen both the devastation and the joy. However, I am not a perfect human being and I admit this. It's a grey area.

I don't believe Roe v Wade should be overturned. I don't think any good would come of repealing the right to abortion in this country, because unfortunately I think women would seek them regardless. And women would die horrible deaths because of it. What I'd love is to see better sex education in this country and for women to use contraceptives. If you don't want a baby, don't have sex, or use contraception. And yes, I still believe abortion is murder.

I said nothing about paying for medical insurance, owning guns, or praying. But you took a bizarre turn there in your post...

[Ban Hammer 13,345]

I know, right? And I need to go buy a gun.

:dance: :dance: :dance:

[ready4ONE 5,400]

and if you say it isn't murder, then you could be imposing your morals on the unborn

No. Murder is murder. Abortion, abortion. Two different things, unless one imposes one's morals on abortion, thus my statement. Asinine observation/insinuation Charles! Back to your drawing board!

[Ban Hammer 13,345]

No. Murder is murder. Abortion, abortion. Two different things, unless one imposes one's morals on abortion, thus my statement. Asinine observation/insinuation Charles! Back to your drawing board!

none are so blind as those who will not see.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

If its the mothers choice then its her morals that come into play, if indeed "morals" are the sole guide for the decision.

Which they aren't.

Your not a DAD are ya?

[ready4ONE 5,400]

none are so blind as those who will not see.

Best you can do?

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

It feels like a bear with sharp claws repeatedly rips out your lower spine. Once you're through with that, imagine pushing for 3 hours a porcupine out of your urethra. That's what it feels like.

so less than being shot twice....good to know thanks!

[FortLaudy 10]

It feels like a bear with sharp claws repeatedly rips out your lower spine. Once you're through with that, imagine pushing for 3 hours a porcupine out of your urethra. That's what it feels like.

Holy #######, my husband better knock me up in that case, there aint no way I'm going to be willingly signing up for that torture, yikes !!!!

[mawilson 2,133]

It feels like a bear with sharp claws repeatedly rips out your lower spine. Once you're through with that, imagine pushing for 3 hours a porcupine out of your urethra. That's what it feels like.

Lovely. Still, not enough pain to stop the breeders.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Your not a DAD are ya?

Fail. Sentimentality doesn't give you the right to control what a woman does with her body.

[MrsCat 6]

Fail. Sentimentality doesn't give you the right to control what a woman does with her body.

Precisely.

Otherwise by that logic alone rapists would have an equal say in the right to life of their fetus.

Edited January 24, 2010 by MrsCat

[Danno 1,228]

Fail. Sentimentality doesn't give you the right to control what a woman does with her body.

I'm bettin you are all for -minimum wage laws.

If it's my body shouldn't I have the CHOICE to decide what I charge for my labor?

Why would you want to push your labor law morality on others MR Hunt?

Another inconsistent Progressive?

Edited January 24, 2010 by Danno