Chicago introduces living-wage

[KarenCee 3]

Yes...I have to agree with that too. Unfortunately. Sometimes ya do whatcha gotta do for your family.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

The days of Mom and Pop stores were numbered before Wal Mart-the bomb was ticking once Simon Developments started building Shoping Malls.

PLUS...I HATE the fact that American companies are manufacturing overseas-but-even if I buy the Hasbro Supersoaker at Toys R Us v Wal Mart; it's still made in China or wherever.

Yeh, there is the "feel good" factor of not supporting a store whose pay structure you disagree with, but in my opinion, it feels better to me to be able to afford what myself and my son need-like Veiled Princess said-if you get my drift!

PS I hate gas guzzling SUVs

It's difficult to really make a difference with the consumer choices we make but then that really sucks because our free market is suppose to be about choices and true competition.

[Fischkoepfin 1]

I don't buy the argument that shopping at Walmart is cheaper. I don't shop there and still have lower living expenses than my friends that do. There are ways to get around Walmart...

The problem is more that it's difficult "to kick a habit." If you're used to Walmart, you'll assume that you go there because it's cheaper and more convenient. But if you stopped shopping there you would realize that it's all some marketing ploy making you believe that Walmart is your best choice just as people were made to believe that smoking was good for your health.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

I don't buy the argument that shopping at Walmart is cheaper. I don't shop there and still have lower living expenses than my friends that do. There are ways to get around Walmart...

The problem is more that it's difficult "to kick a habit." If you're used to Walmart, you'll assume that you go there because it's cheaper and more convenient. But if you stopped shopping there you would realize that it's all some marketing ploy making you believe that Walmart is your best choice just as people were made to believe that smoking was good for your health.

Well said.

[Fandango 1,439]

I don't buy the argument that shopping at Walmart is cheaper. I don't shop there and still have lower living expenses than my friends that do. There are ways to get around Walmart...

The problem is more that it's difficult "to kick a habit." If you're used to Walmart, you'll assume that you go there because it's cheaper and more convenient. But if you stopped shopping there you would realize that it's all some marketing ploy making you believe that Walmart is your best choice just as people were made to believe that smoking was good for your health.

Absolutely untrue....wal mart IS cheaper...I think most here would agree regardless how you fall on this issue.

[Veiled Princess 1]

I don't buy the argument that shopping at Walmart is cheaper. I don't shop there and still have lower living expenses than my friends that do. There are ways to get around Walmart...

The problem is more that it's difficult "to kick a habit." If you're used to Walmart, you'll assume that you go there because it's cheaper and more convenient. But if you stopped shopping there you would realize that it's all some marketing ploy making you believe that Walmart is your best choice just as people were made to believe that smoking was good for your health.

Absolutely untrue....wal mart IS cheaper...I think most here would agree regardless how you fall on this issue.

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

PS I hate gas guzzling SUVs

ooo000oooo i got one of those 19,500 miles and it's just over 4 years old

(you can see i don't drive it much)

[KarenCee 3]

I don't buy the argument that shopping at Walmart is cheaper. I don't shop there and still have lower living expenses than my friends that do. There are ways to get around Walmart...

The problem is more that it's difficult "to kick a habit." If you're used to Walmart, you'll assume that you go there because it's cheaper and more convenient. But if you stopped shopping there you would realize that it's all some marketing ploy making you believe that Walmart is your best choice just as people were made to believe that smoking was good for your health.

Hmmmm....good point there. It IS difficult...it's like a habit, easy to create but hard to break. Might have to sit down and re-evaluate things. Outlet shopping can be profitable for the consumer IF done at the right times. Same with grocery shopping. Hmmmm......

[Fischkoepfin 1]

I don't buy the argument that shopping at Walmart is cheaper. I don't shop there and still have lower living expenses than my friends that do. There are ways to get around Walmart...

The problem is more that it's difficult "to kick a habit." If you're used to Walmart, you'll assume that you go there because it's cheaper and more convenient. But if you stopped shopping there you would realize that it's all some marketing ploy making you believe that Walmart is your best choice just as people were made to believe that smoking was good for your health.

Absolutely untrue....wal mart IS cheaper...I think most here would agree regardless how you fall on this issue.

The question is, however, how many of these people have actually tried to get along without shopping at Walmart for a while. I've done both (yes, I used to be an avid Walmart shopper) until one day I stopped. Now, shopping is a quicker affair, I don't pay more than before but less, and I don't have to feel like I'm consuming at the expense of other people. It takes some strategic planning because in order to save money without Walmart, shopping needs to be done at several stores. But once you know where to go, it's not that difficult anymore.

[Fandango 1,439]

I don't buy the argument that shopping at Walmart is cheaper. I don't shop there and still have lower living expenses than my friends that do. There are ways to get around Walmart...

The problem is more that it's difficult "to kick a habit." If you're used to Walmart, you'll assume that you go there because it's cheaper and more convenient. But if you stopped shopping there you would realize that it's all some marketing ploy making you believe that Walmart is your best choice just as people were made to believe that smoking was good for your health.

Absolutely untrue....wal mart IS cheaper...I think most here would agree regardless how you fall on this issue.

The question is, however, how many of these people have actually tried to get along without shopping at Walmart for a while. I've done both (yes, I used to be an avid Walmart shopper) until one day I stopped. Now, shopping is a quicker affair, I don't pay more than before but less, and I don't have to feel like I'm consuming at the expense of other people. It takes some strategic planning because in order to save money without Walmart, shopping needs to be done at several stores. But once you know where to go, it's not that difficult anymore.

No, the question was...is walmart cheaper?, and the answer is yes.

If you don't want to shop there, that's fine...but to say it's not cheaper is incorrect. Now can a family live off the same shopping budget by 'getting along' without certain things? Sure...but that's not the statement you originally posed. It theoretically could be 'cheaper' because the family in question cannot stretch a buck further elsewhere so they have to go without some stuff...but per item prices are cheaper. And if a family is on a limited income, they shouldn't have to 'do without' if they can afford 'luxuries' at wal-mart if they so chose..

Oh, and ps & btw...I just found out 'wally world' is wal-mart thought it was an actual store called wally world, lol

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

Oh, and ps & btw...I just found out 'wally world' is wal-mart thought it was an actual store called wally world, lol

[Fischkoepfin 1]

I don't buy the argument that shopping at Walmart is cheaper. I don't shop there and still have lower living expenses than my friends that do. There are ways to get around Walmart...

The problem is more that it's difficult "to kick a habit." If you're used to Walmart, you'll assume that you go there because it's cheaper and more convenient. But if you stopped shopping there you would realize that it's all some marketing ploy making you believe that Walmart is your best choice just as people were made to believe that smoking was good for your health.

Absolutely untrue....wal mart IS cheaper...I think most here would agree regardless how you fall on this issue.

The question is, however, how many of these people have actually tried to get along without shopping at Walmart for a while. I've done both (yes, I used to be an avid Walmart shopper) until one day I stopped. Now, shopping is a quicker affair, I don't pay more than before but less, and I don't have to feel like I'm consuming at the expense of other people. It takes some strategic planning because in order to save money without Walmart, shopping needs to be done at several stores. But once you know where to go, it's not that difficult anymore.

No, the question was...is walmart cheaper?, and the answer is yes.

If you don't want to shop there, that's fine...but to say it's not cheaper is incorrect. Now can a family live off the same shopping budget by 'getting along' without certain things? Sure...but that's not the statement you originally posed. It theoretically could be 'cheaper' because the family in question cannot stretch a buck further elsewhere so they have to go without some stuff...but per item prices are cheaper. And if a family is on a limited income, they shouldn't have to 'do without' if they can afford 'luxuries' at wal-mart if they so chose..

Ok, so you're saying I'm wrong, even though I and several people I know have made the actual experience that life without Walmart is not more expensive and in certain case even cheaper. "Getting along," most likely used not quite correctly by me, did not mean to imply that people can't buy what they want, but that you can live well without suffering a negative impact on your standard of living. I never suggested that people who don't shop at WM couldn't buy certain things, no idea how you got that.

And I'm certainly not affluent nor can I afford to buy "luxuries," be it at Walmart or anywhere else. If you're truly worried about stretching the buck as far a s possible, then it is irrelevant if luxury items are slightly cheaper at Walmart because you can't drop any cash on non-essentials. My premise that Walmart is not cheaper is based on normal shopping that you need to do to survive and keep your underpaying job, like buy groceries and clothes or in better months, CDs or DVDs.

[Fandango 1,439]

I don't buy the argument that shopping at Walmart is cheaper. I don't shop there and still have lower living expenses than my friends that do. There are ways to get around Walmart...

The problem is more that it's difficult "to kick a habit." If you're used to Walmart, you'll assume that you go there because it's cheaper and more convenient. But if you stopped shopping there you would realize that it's all some marketing ploy making you believe that Walmart is your best choice just as people were made to believe that smoking was good for your health.

Absolutely untrue....wal mart IS cheaper...I think most here would agree regardless how you fall on this issue.

The question is, however, how many of these people have actually tried to get along without shopping at Walmart for a while. I've done both (yes, I used to be an avid Walmart shopper) until one day I stopped. Now, shopping is a quicker affair, I don't pay more than before but less, and I don't have to feel like I'm consuming at the expense of other people. It takes some strategic planning because in order to save money without Walmart, shopping needs to be done at several stores. But once you know where to go, it's not that difficult anymore.

No, the question was...is walmart cheaper?, and the answer is yes.

If you don't want to shop there, that's fine...but to say it's not cheaper is incorrect. Now can a family live off the same shopping budget by 'getting along' without certain things? Sure...but that's not the statement you originally posed. It theoretically could be 'cheaper' because the family in question cannot stretch a buck further elsewhere so they have to go without some stuff...but per item prices are cheaper. And if a family is on a limited income, they shouldn't have to 'do without' if they can afford 'luxuries' at wal-mart if they so chose..

Ok, so you're saying I'm wrong, even though I and several people I know have made the actual experience that life without Walmart is not more expensive and in certain case even cheaper. "Getting along," most likely used not quite correctly by me, did not mean to imply that people can't buy what they want, but that you can live well without suffering a negative impact on your standard of living. I never suggested that people who don't shop at WM couldn't buy certain things, no idea how you got that.

And I'm certainly not affluent nor can I afford to buy "luxuries," be it at Walmart or anywhere else. If you're truly worried about stretching the buck as far a s possible, then it is irrelevant if luxury items are slightly cheaper at Walmart because you can't drop any cash on non-essentials. My premise that Walmart is not cheaper is based on normal shopping that you need to do to survive and keep your underpaying job, like buy groceries and clothes or in better months, CDs or DVDs.

Yes, I'ms aying you're wrong. Perhaps it's a location thing, but where I am, WalMart is the cheapest around by a long shot.

Plus...why's it putting the mom & pop places out of biz if it's not cheaper? That would make no sense at all.

[Artegal 1]

I shop around. Sometimes things are cheaper at Best Buy and Target, but on the whole the average price of stuff is cheaper at walmart

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I never understood why people defend the operating practices of big business when they conflict with giving a fair deal to employees, or why it is that we should view the arguments of big business as anything other than predominantly self-serving, centered entirely on profit margins, while throwing ethics out the window.

How is it a major corporation (like Walmart) can justify giving its top executives massive bonuses while not providing health insurance for the rank and file?