CAIRO'S FINAL REVIEW CLUB

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i had my interview at american embassy in cairo at 06-03-2010 about my fiance k1 visa , so i wounder why the cairo counselor refuse my fiancee visa and even after they stamp it , also after he told us we got approved at the interview ?

i just need to know what the reason for that after we call the embassy 4 times and they said its already approved , and we waiting for the dhl to send it to my fiancee home , and after that we got the passport had the visa in it but over the visa there was a stamp say cancled without prejudice , what that suppose to mean ?

and also it had a letter said , that the embassy dont convienced about our relationship , and they send our case back to usa , what that mean ?

also the passport had a pink paper said iv , what that mean ???

what they need else after all they see at the interview and i visit him 4 times and had a real relationship , and we answer all the quiz right at the interview .

what i have to do now

im here in egypt , did i have to embassy again to see whats going on , and why that happened , i dont mind really just wanna do any thing to dont loose my love of my life

if the counselor need to cancel it why he dont tell us in the beginning , why he let us happy for 1 mounth , even i was arrange for our trip back to states together and then stap us in the back ?????

any help will be appreciated

it's well obvious now that the embassy gives a lot of hard time to the K1 visa applicants . get married and file for CR1 and it will be easier to obtain the visa isA .

the best thing that could happen to K1 applicant is what happened to hot guy , he was waiting for over a year in the AP :S

good luck

[tenderheartusa79 14]

i had my interview at american embassy in cairo at 06-03-2010 about my fiance k1 visa , so i wounder why the cairo counselor refuse my fiancee visa and even after they stamp it , also after he told us we got approved at the interview ?

i just need to know what the reason for that after we call the embassy 4 times and they said its already approved , and we waiting for the dhl to send it to my fiancee home , and after that we got the passport had the visa in it but over the visa there was a stamp say cancled without prejudice , what that suppose to mean ?

and also it had a letter said , that the embassy dont convienced about our relationship , and they send our case back to usa , what that mean ?

also the passport had a pink paper said iv , what that mean ???

what they need else after all they see at the interview and i visit him 4 times and had a real relationship , and we answer all the quiz right at the interview .

what i have to do now

im here in egypt , did i have to embassy again to see whats going on , and why that happened , i dont mind really just wanna do any thing to dont loose my love of my life

if the counselor need to cancel it why he dont tell us in the beginning , why he let us happy for 1 mounth , even i was arrange for our trip back to states together and then stap us in the back ?????

any help will be appreciated

Im so sorry bro that you had went through all of that .No one wants to deal with the USA embassy in Cairo as i always say its like a clean version of ....

I hope that everything will work out good for ya bro .

it's well obvious now that the embassy gives a lot of hard time to the K1 visa applicants . get married and file for CR1 and it will be easier to obtain the visa isA .

the best thing that could happen to K1 applicant is what happened to hot guy , he was waiting for over a year in the AP :S

good luck

Hey bro how ya doin ? I hope that everything is going ok with ya .

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Im so sorry bro that you had went through all of that .No one wants to deal with the USA embassy in Cairo as i always say its like a clean version of ....

I hope that everything will work out good for ya bro .

Hey bro how ya doin ? I hope that everything is going ok with ya .

hey bro how are ya? i hope everything goes great there

well here it's fine but not perfect yet as i am still looking for a job and that makes me feel so worried ... rabena esahel isA

[tenderheartusa79 14]

hey bro how are ya? i hope everything goes great there

well here it's fine but not perfect yet as i am still looking for a job and that makes me feel so worried ... rabena esahel isA

Inshaa'Allah you will a job soon bro .Rabena Ma'ak ya bro .

did you get your SSN ? i just filed for one ysterday .And i hope that i will get it soon

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Inshaa'Allah you will a job soon bro .Rabena Ma'ak ya bro .

did you get your SSN ? i just filed for one ysterday .And i hope that i will get it soon

oh yes i had a big problem at the SSN adminstration last monday as they told me that i had to apply for one , so ####### i was waiting for 2 month for nothing?? why didn't you say that from the first day ?? so anyways i applied for one and they said it will be done within 10 days ...so we will see what will happen , isA kher

i hope you get yours so soon bro isA

[tenderheartusa79 14]

oh yes i had a big problem at the SSN adminstration last monday as they told me that i had to apply for one , so ####### i was waiting for 2 month for nothing?? why didn't you say that from the first day ?? so anyways i applied for one and they said it will be done within 10 days ...so we will see what will happen , isA kher

i hope you get yours so soon bro isA

Yeah bro i know .They gave some prob to .They did not want me to file for SSN before i filed for AOS .They said i can not get SSN and im not eligibleto get one before i file for AOS .But i proved to them that i still can file for SSN before i file for AOS .And thank God it was pretty fast and i got the SSN in my hand now .

I hope that you will get yours soon bro .

Edited July 8, 2010 by Hot Guy

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Yeah bro i know .They gave some prob to .They did not want me to file for SSN before i filed for AOS .They said i can not get SSN and im not eligibleto get one before i file for AOS .But i proved to them that i still can file for SSN before i file for AOS .And thank God it was pretty fast and i got the SSN in my hand now .

I hope that you will get yours soon bro .

thx God, bro , i am still waiting for mine as after i applied for one the lady told me it would take 10 days to have it , so i will go tomorrow to check . hopefully i will get it soon as i really really need it .

rabena esahel isA

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hey hot guy i know you read about what happend to me here man , so i need your oppanion

1 ) did you get deined at interview ? or what happend ??

2 ) under what conditon they make your case waiting for 14 mounth ?

3 ) did you had that waiting time while your case in here ( cairo ) or in usa ???

4 ) what kind of hep , or what to do to get help and let your case workout ?

5 ) whats your advise for me ?

thanks alot brother

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hey hot guy i know you read about what happend to me here man , so i need your oppanion

1 ) did you get deined at interview ? or what happend ??

2 ) under what conditon they make your case waiting for 14 mounth ?

3 ) did you had that waiting time while your case in here ( cairo ) or in usa ???

4 ) what kind of hep , or what to do to get help and let your case workout ?

5 ) whats your advise for me ?

thanks alot brother

Hi bro .Yeah bro sadly i have been reading your sad story and im sorry that you had went through all of that .

1-No bro they did not deny mee .They told me that everything looks great and i will get my visa in 2 weeks ! And then i had a second interview .It was very long interview i mmean more than an hour 3 people were asking me questions 2 americans and an egy .At the end of the interview i asked them are we approved yet ? they said no .no good news no bad news and they need to talk to my fiancee !! 3 months later they send 4 people to my fiancee in USA and believe it or not it was 3 hours interview so you can imagine how mmany questions they asked her ?!!!!!

2- 3 I was under AP bro .But i found out that they were checking on my name for 3 months in WA-DC and they had to do that again cause the first one expired so my case was in USA for name check for about 6 months and it was on someone's desk at the embassy for 8 months collecting dust !!!

4- As i told you bro i contacted everyone like the Consul General , my fiancee's congressman and her senator ,Hillary clinton , and even president Obama .

5-My thoughts to you bro is to get married and then file for CR1 visa and insha'Allah you will get it without any harm .I have seen so many people got denied or they sent their cases back to USA.....and after they got married and refiled they got their visas without any problems .

Here is some info i hope it will help you to understand what happened to you and what you should do .

Why are Petitions/Applications Returned to the USCIS by an Embassy/Consulate??

Petitions/applications are returned for a variety of case specific reasons. Returning a petition/application to the USCIS means that the embassy/consulate refuses to issue a visa to the beneficiary, but they do not have specific evidence to actually deny a visa application. So the next best thing to do is return the petition/application to the USCIS office where the petition was originally filed requesting further review and ultimately recommending revocation.

What Happens When a Petition/Application is Returned to the USCIS by an Embassy/Consulate?

• 221(g) is issued to beneficiary at conclusion of the interview stating the application and/or petition is being returned to the United States.
• Petition is returned to the United States by the interviewing consulate for "further review" in what is called a diplomatic pouch.
• Returned petition is received by the NVC. It is reviewed and entered into the fraud database by fraud management.
• Returned petition is sent to the local USCIS service center where the petition was originally filed and approved.
• Local service center receives returned petition.
• Local service center who processed the original petition sends a notice of receipt to the petitioner.
• Local service center reviews the returned petition and consular officer notes on the case.
• Local service center then sends either a NOID (Notice of Intent to Deny) or NOIR (Notice of Intent to Revoke) to the petitioner also asking for more proof of the relationship, many cases have specific consular objections to rebut.
• Petitioner is given 30-60 days from date of NOIR/NOID (depending on the service center) to respond with additional evidence of the relationship or other specific evidence. The timeframe to respond will be provided in the letter.
• Local service center receives evidence...if in the timeframe given (30-60 days) the case is reviewed and either original approval is reaffirmed or the petition is officially denied.
• If the petition is denied the local service center sends the petitioner an 'official' denial letter. This can be officially appealed if the denial letter states such.
• If the petition is reaffirmed the local service center sends the petitioner an official notice of reaffirmation.
• Local service center sends the reaffirmed petition AND its evidence provided in the rebuttal directly to the consulate along with a recommendation to issue a visa.
• Consulate notifies the beneficiary of a new interview date.
• Beneficiary has interview for the reaffirmed petition and the visa is either issued, or the case in placed in Administrative Processing which after cleared a visa is issued, or worst case scenario it is denied via Section 221(g) and returned again to the USCIS with a recommendation for revocation.

What can you do immediately when faced with this issue:

• First and foremost, contact a good immigration attorney.
• Immediately have the beneficiary send a scanned copy of the 221(g) issued.
• Contact the consulate directly (immediately) and attempt to have the petition reviewed by the senior consular before it is returned.
• If you are unable to get through to the consulate on the phone, contact them via email, and if you're mail has a "read verification" use it.
• Contact your congressman/senator, get them involved immediately. You will need to sign a release form giving them permission to make an inquiry on your behalf.
• Provide your congressman/senator with as much information as possible about your case, the interview, and the result.
• If your congressman/senator is top notch, they will not just send an email or letter to the consulate, they will call on the phone and try to get the petition reviewed again before it is sent back.
• If they are not successful, they can request the diplomatic pouch number the petition is being returned in. This number will allow you to track the petition until it is received by the local service center.

To track a returned petition/application with a pouch number, you can contact the Diplomatic Pouch Service in Washington:

• Diplomatic Pouch Service: 202-663-1588
• If the petition is returned, you are in for a wait. The diplomatic pouch the petition is returned in is sent from embassy to embassy picking up other returned petitions along the way. It could take up to 2 or 3 months for it to be received by fraud management at the NVC...then the NVC has the petition for about 1 month before sending it to the local service center where it was originally filed. One thing to also know is that returned petitions do not take priority...they are reviewed in the order they are received, that is after new petitions have been processed
• What You Can Do in the Meantime While You Wait:
• Continue contacting the consulate to get an actual reason for the return...not the blanket "validity of relationship" response.
• Stay in contact with your congressman/senator, they can assist you in getting the actual reason for denial.
• Immediately file a Freedom Of Information Act request for the Department of State asking specifically for the consular notes on your returned petition: DOS FOIA
• Immediately file for a Freedom of Information Act request for the USCIS asking for the same specific consular notes on your returned petition: USCIS FOIA
• Continue to document your relationship, emails, letters, phone bills, visits to their country, etc.
• Be ready for the opportunity to rebut the consular findings.
• Contact a good immigration attorney as suggested above...preferably one who has experience in returned and denied petitions.

After a period of 6 months or longer has passed and you do not hear anything from the local service center regarding the receipt of your return, or the results of the review, you can contact the CIS Ombudsman. While the Ombudsman cannot make the USCIS reaffirm your returned petition, they can assist when processing times are outside of guidelines

Now, there are some differences between returned fiancé petitions and marriage petitions. The K1 is especially at risk due to the expiration of the original approval, many returned K1s are not given the opportunity to rebut, they receive a notice telling them their K1 has expired and may file again at any time...this is why the FOIA is so important. You need to know the exact reason the petition was returned, just filing again is a huge risk if you do not know why the petition was returned in the first place.

Good luck and my best wishes for you bro .

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Hi bro .Yeah bro sadly i have been reading your sad story and im sorry that you had went through all of that .

1-No bro they did not deny mee .They told me that everything looks great and i will get my visa in 2 weeks ! And then i had a second interview .It was very long interview i mmean more than an hour 3 people were asking me questions 2 americans and an egy .At the end of the interview i asked them are we approved yet ? they said no .no good news no bad news and they need to talk to my fiancee !! 3 months later they send 4 people to my fiancee in USA and believe it or not it was 3 hours interview so you can imagine how mmany questions they asked her ?!!!!!

2- 3 I was under AP bro .But i found out that they were checking on my name for 3 months in WA-DC and they had to do that again cause the first one expired so my case was in USA for name check for about 6 months and it was on someone's desk at the embassy for 8 months collecting dust !!!

4- As i told you bro i contacted everyone like the Consul General , my fiancee's congressman and her senator ,Hillary clinton , and even president Obama .

5-My thoughts to you bro is to get married and then file for CR1 visa and insha'Allah you will get it without any harm .I have seen so many people got denied or they sent their cases back to USA.....and after they got married and refiled they got their visas without any problems .

Here is some info i hope it will help you to understand what happened to you and what you should do .

Why are Petitions/Applications Returned to the USCIS by an Embassy/Consulate??

Petitions/applications are returned for a variety of case specific reasons. Returning a petition/application to the USCIS means that the embassy/consulate refuses to issue a visa to the beneficiary, but they do not have specific evidence to actually deny a visa application. So the next best thing to do is return the petition/application to the USCIS office where the petition was originally filed requesting further review and ultimately recommending revocation.

What Happens When a Petition/Application is Returned to the USCIS by an Embassy/Consulate?

• 221(g) is issued to beneficiary at conclusion of the interview stating the application and/or petition is being returned to the United States.
• Petition is returned to the United States by the interviewing consulate for "further review" in what is called a diplomatic pouch.
• Returned petition is received by the NVC. It is reviewed and entered into the fraud database by fraud management.
• Returned petition is sent to the local USCIS service center where the petition was originally filed and approved.
• Local service center receives returned petition.
• Local service center who processed the original petition sends a notice of receipt to the petitioner.
• Local service center reviews the returned petition and consular officer notes on the case.
• Local service center then sends either a NOID (Notice of Intent to Deny) or NOIR (Notice of Intent to Revoke) to the petitioner also asking for more proof of the relationship, many cases have specific consular objections to rebut.
• Petitioner is given 30-60 days from date of NOIR/NOID (depending on the service center) to respond with additional evidence of the relationship or other specific evidence. The timeframe to respond will be provided in the letter.
• Local service center receives evidence...if in the timeframe given (30-60 days) the case is reviewed and either original approval is reaffirmed or the petition is officially denied.
• If the petition is denied the local service center sends the petitioner an 'official' denial letter. This can be officially appealed if the denial letter states such.
• If the petition is reaffirmed the local service center sends the petitioner an official notice of reaffirmation.
• Local service center sends the reaffirmed petition AND its evidence provided in the rebuttal directly to the consulate along with a recommendation to issue a visa.
• Consulate notifies the beneficiary of a new interview date.
• Beneficiary has interview for the reaffirmed petition and the visa is either issued, or the case in placed in Administrative Processing which after cleared a visa is issued, or worst case scenario it is denied via Section 221(g) and returned again to the USCIS with a recommendation for revocation.

What can you do immediately when faced with this issue:

• First and foremost, contact a good immigration attorney.
• Immediately have the beneficiary send a scanned copy of the 221(g) issued.
• Contact the consulate directly (immediately) and attempt to have the petition reviewed by the senior consular before it is returned.
• If you are unable to get through to the consulate on the phone, contact them via email, and if you're mail has a "read verification" use it.
• Contact your congressman/senator, get them involved immediately. You will need to sign a release form giving them permission to make an inquiry on your behalf.
• Provide your congressman/senator with as much information as possible about your case, the interview, and the result.
• If your congressman/senator is top notch, they will not just send an email or letter to the consulate, they will call on the phone and try to get the petition reviewed again before it is sent back.
• If they are not successful, they can request the diplomatic pouch number the petition is being returned in. This number will allow you to track the petition until it is received by the local service center.

To track a returned petition/application with a pouch number, you can contact the Diplomatic Pouch Service in Washington:

• Diplomatic Pouch Service: 202-663-1588
• If the petition is returned, you are in for a wait. The diplomatic pouch the petition is returned in is sent from embassy to embassy picking up other returned petitions along the way. It could take up to 2 or 3 months for it to be received by fraud management at the NVC...then the NVC has the petition for about 1 month before sending it to the local service center where it was originally filed. One thing to also know is that returned petitions do not take priority...they are reviewed in the order they are received, that is after new petitions have been processed
• What You Can Do in the Meantime While You Wait:
• Continue contacting the consulate to get an actual reason for the return...not the blanket "validity of relationship" response.
• Stay in contact with your congressman/senator, they can assist you in getting the actual reason for denial.
• Immediately file a Freedom Of Information Act request for the Department of State asking specifically for the consular notes on your returned petition: DOS FOIA
• Immediately file for a Freedom of Information Act request for the USCIS asking for the same specific consular notes on your returned petition: USCIS FOIA
• Continue to document your relationship, emails, letters, phone bills, visits to their country, etc.
• Be ready for the opportunity to rebut the consular findings.
• Contact a good immigration attorney as suggested above...preferably one who has experience in returned and denied petitions.

After a period of 6 months or longer has passed and you do not hear anything from the local service center regarding the receipt of your return, or the results of the review, you can contact the CIS Ombudsman. While the Ombudsman cannot make the USCIS reaffirm your returned petition, they can assist when processing times are outside of guidelines

Now, there are some differences between returned fiancé petitions and marriage petitions. The K1 is especially at risk due to the expiration of the original approval, many returned K1s are not given the opportunity to rebut, they receive a notice telling them their K1 has expired and may file again at any time...this is why the FOIA is so important. You need to know the exact reason the petition was returned, just filing again is a huge risk if you do not know why the petition was returned in the first place.

Good luck and my best wishes for you bro .

thanks alot brother , so there was nothing to do while my fiancee is here in egypt , you dont had no advices to do while she is here ???

[Wife of Mohammed 0]

Tomorrow is our interview in Cairo and I will be by my husbands side. I really hope things go well and a special thanks to Sarah, Sandra, Wendy and Jalan for helping me out with any questions I had throughout this process.

We are hoping for the best. My anxiety hasn't kicked in yet, but my husband is very anxious. Mind over matter, we just gotta be cool, calm and collective Also, just to relax and be ourself. We may be from different cultures, but we were passionately drawn together. I want to start a family and begin our lives together in my home country. We can only hope and pray for the support and blessings of the US Government.

Sincerely,

Leia Mohammed

[ya hayat alby ♥ 0]

Hot Guy, why wouldn't they let you apply for your SSN?

They just processed the SSN with your passport and visa?

[*****S*D***** 0]

Tomorrow is our interview in Cairo and I will be by my husbands side. I really hope things go well and a special thanks to Sarah, Sandra, Wendy and Jalan for helping me out with any questions I had throughout this process.

We are hoping for the best. My anxiety hasn't kicked in yet, but my husband is very anxious. Mind over matter, we just gotta be cool, calm and collective Also, just to relax and be ourself. We may be from different cultures, but we were passionately drawn together. I want to start a family and begin our lives together in my home country. We can only hope and pray for the support and blessings of the US Government.

Sincerel

Leia Mohammed

Your very welcome leia and mohammed!!! Congrats on your interview approval today!!! Enjoy your life together!!! You should have his visa Thursday a week from today

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Thank You aishiahossam and and_sam!!!

We got his visa today!!! 4 days amazing!!! Good job Cairo!!!

[Mithra 1,185]

Wow congrats! That is amazing!