Requirements for my Fiance concerning SSN and Drivers license

[Antonio 0]

Hi,All

Just some questions: First,My Fiance and I live in New Jersey. Can she get a SSN before we are married? And,if so,will having the SSN help to get her Drivers License? She currently has a Drivers License from her home country of Romania. Also,how long will it take to get her SSN and consequently her drivers license? Thank you in advance for any and all replies.

[BPM-MVS 0]

Hi,All

Just some questions: First,My Fiance and I live in New Jersey. Can she get a SSN before we are married? And,if so,will having the SSN help to get her Drivers License? She currently has a Drivers License from her home country of Romania. Also,how long will it take to get her SSN and consequently her drivers license? Thank you in advance for any and all replies.

From what I understand is that YES you need a SS# to get the drivers license. This is only from what I had read in posts so accuracy may be off.

I have an added question that deals with this subject. My Maria live in Russia and of course she wants to be able to drive after arriving in US. She has never driven before.

Question: Is it easier for her to learn in Russia and be licensed, then transfer to a US drivers license?

OR

Just have her learn how to drive here and take test here after getting SS# which I think she will need anyways???

It seems many illeagal immigrants can drive with no problems. She would be leagaly here but no SS#

Any Thoughts???

[Dr_LHA 3]

Probably easier for her to learn in Russia than here (as most people learn to drive at school, driving instructors are a relatively rare and expensive commodity here), but her Russian license cannot be transferred, so she will have to take the test over here anyway.

It seems many illeagal immigrants can drive with no problems. She would be leagaly here but no SS#

If you're already here illegally, you're dodging the law. Therefore adding driving without a license to the laws you are breaking isn't that uncommon amongst illegal aliens.

Edited July 27, 2006 by dr_lha

[I'm Gone 60]

Can she get a SSN before we are married? Also,how long will it take to get her SSN

Suggest that she apply in her maiden name before you are married and try to apply for a corrected

card after being married.

You need to remember that SSA will not assign an SSN or issue a card if her status has expired or is

within 14 days of expiring.

K-1 status is good for 90 days, so that only gives her 76 days to be

assigned an SSN and issued a card. After that time she will need an EAD

or I-551 card to establish authorization to work. Before that time the

I-94 showing K-1 status is the document that establishes authorization

to work for SSN purposes.

The status/documents of all aliens must be verified before SSA will

assign an SSN and/or issue a card and the 14 day limit applies even if

she passes the 76th day while waiting for her status to be verified.

The SSA office will try to verify her status through the SAVE system

while she is in the office. If they can't, they will send a form G-845

to immigration for manual verification. This could delay the assigning

of an SSN and/or issuing a card for weeks and some times months.

If the SSA office does send the G-845, suggest that she go back to the

SSA office no more than once a week with your documents to (1) ask them

to check SAVE again (2) ask if they sent a G-845 (3) if yes, did it come

back (4) after 30 days ask if they have followed up on the G-845 by

calling or sending another mark "second request."

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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203720

RM 00203.720 Verifying Immigration Documents

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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203735

RM 00203.735 Requesting Online (Primary) Verification By SAVE

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After having waited at least 30 days and your local SSA office doesn't

seem concerned about following up on the G-845 she can try contacting

the SSA Regional Office (RO) responsible for your state:

http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/natlpocontacts.html

Refer them to this:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203740

RM 00203.740 Requesting Additional (Manual) Verification By DHS

B. PROCEDURE – HOW TO REQUEST MANUAL VERIFICATION

STEP 6

DHS should respond to SSA within 15 federal work days after receiving

the Form G-845. If DHS does not respond within 15 federal work days from

the receipt of the G-845 from SSA, follow-up with the DHS, USCIS

Immigration Status office. (Allow 15 days plus five additional federal

work days of mail time for the G-845 to be received at and returned from

DHS.

Follow local practice to follow-up with DHS. Some SSA offices have an

arrangement with the DHS, USCIS office to telephone for the follow-up

contact; other SSA offices send a copy of the original G-845 annotated

“second request.”) If the DHS response is still not received within 15

federal work days after the follow-up contact (if the follow-up is by

mail allow five additional federal work days of mail time for the G-845

to be received at and returned from DHS), make a second follow-up

contact. If the DHS response is not received within 15 federal workdays

(again, if the follow-up is by mail, allow five additional federal work

days of mail time for the G-845 to be received at and returned from

DHS), after two follow-ups, contact the RO. Also report to the RO any trend that shows a serious

deviation by DHS from the above time frames. The RO will consult with central office.

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Suggest that she take her birth certificate, passport and I-94 when going to apply.

That should cover age, identity and work authorized alien status.

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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203210

RM 00203.210 Changing Numident Data

a. Bride Takes Groom’s Last Name

In all 50 U.S. States (this means the 50 States, Washington, D.C., Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands,

Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, and American Samoa) the bride may take her husband's last name

(surname or family name) as her new last name. (EXAMPLE: Jane Doe married John Jones and she may

change her name to Jane Jones.)

Interim Guidance: If the bride wants to take her husband's last name, accept the marriage document

as a legal name change for the bride if the new name can be derived from the marriage document; even

if the marriage document only shows each partner's first names, the bride's prior surname and

husband's surname. The marriage document alone can be accepted as evidence of identity for both the

old and new names when it meets the criteria described in RM 00203.200G.2.

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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203200#G2

2. Determine if the ID Document Has Required Information

Ask the applicant to submit one or more documents that show the person's name AND provide:

Biographical information in addition to the person's name that the reviewer can compare with the

data on the SS-5 (e.g., date of birth, age, or parents' names) and/or

Physical information that the reviewer can compare with the applicant (e.g., physical description,

photograph).

NOTE: A non-picture identity document must have the person's name as well as information that can be

compared to the Numident, the applicant or other documents submitted (e.g., age, date of birth, or

parents' names).

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C. Procedure - Immigration Document as Evidence of Legal Name

When issuing immigration documents, the Department of State and DHS issue them in the person's legal

name. The legal name is also generally the name in which the foreign passport was issued.

When an alien applies for an SSN card, presume the name on the immigration document is the legal

name unless the applicant presents evidence of a legal name change (e.g., marriage) that occurred

after the immigration document was issued.

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