Obama To Grant Immunity To Illegal Haitians

[az110965 252]

Jundp, you're wasting your time on these people. I don't believe Richard 90027 or az110965 really have the intelligence to understand what is going on. I pity them.

English Muffin -

I don't recall personally attacking anyone in this thread (Hatians or anyone else). Why YOU would have to resort to questioning my intelligence is pretty sad.

If you choose to make this a personal attack on me then so be it. I merely stated facts and YOU chose to make this personal - I won't stoop to that level, but I am still entitled to my opinion.

I never said "let these people suffer" or "they deserve this", etc... All I merely asked in a public forum is why this tragedy in Haiti equated to Haitians basically being granted asylum.

Also, as a side note, I'm fairly active in charitible causes. My church has planed 4 churches in Haiti and Ethopia, so I'm not without feelings for the pain that others endure and I put my money where my mouth is - my donations have gone to start up churches in impovrished countries.

That being said, you're entitled to your opinion and I'm sure entitled to mine. I just find it curious that people who haven't gone through the background checks that our loved ones are subjected to are ok to stay here in your book.

Just my unintelligent view.

Alan

[mrs. wife! 3]

Well, I would think it's unfair if they would receive a permanent residency or citizenship, whatever... (if they'd do it to Haiti they would have to do to other countries that have suffered natural disasters too).

But as someone said before, Obama is not deporting them just right now. As soon as the caos is over and the country is better then they would have something to return to.

Also, the US can't send anybody back because there are no flight to Haiti. It's just a "short term" thing until the country is recomposed.

My prayers are in Haiti!

[SuperDuper! 230]

That has to be one of the most selfish things I ever heard in my time on VJ.

For once, I'm actually speechless.

It could be the start of a positive trend.

[aydanalberto1 0]

Fresh off the AP wire is that in light of the tragedy in Haiti, President Obama is granting illegal status Haitians immunity to stay in the USA. Obama's view was that it wouldn't be fair to send them back to Haiti because of the devestation that occured there.

I for one feel the deepest of sympathy for people of Haiti but REALLY???? Immunity from deportation because Haiti suffered an earthquake????

I personally feel like people from Haiti (and all over the world) are welcome to immigrate LEGALLY to the USA, but since when does an earthquake qualify somone basically for asylum in the USA?

There are natural disasters all over the world on a regular basis (ie: the tsunami which all but destroyed Indonasia several years ago) that are tragic in their occurance, but victims of THOSE disaters weren't afforded any special immigration status.

I'm waiting for my fiancee's visa to be LEGALLY processed (as we all are on this forum) and I'm just a little insulted by President Obams's actions.

Alan

Obama granting them immunity from deportation does not affect me in the least. I think there is nothing wrong with it, I think it is the humane thing to do. If something like that happened to my husband's country, I sure wouldn't complain, so i won't complain for anyone else either. I don't think this situation warrants the whole "I had to do it, why don't he" argument.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Moved from General Immigration Information to Immigration News and Discussion as a more appropriate location.

[caybee 21]

Maybe it would be helpful to see what TPS is and is not. It does not lead to legal permanent residence.

And citizens of several other countries have received TPS because of armed conflicts and natural disasters, some not even approaching what Haiti has experienced. A list from 2003 included Angola, Burundi, El Salvador, Honduras, Liberia, Montserrat, Nicaragua, Sierra Leone, Somalia, and Sudan. I haven't yet found a more recent list. In spite of armed conflict and numerous devastating hurricanes, including four in one year, Haitians have never before been granted TPS. They are not now receiving preferential treatment that was invented just for them. They are receiving humanitarian treatment as permitted by law.

[Niels Bohr 72]

Wow. What about the Indonesian (tsunami disaster)?

[christeen 966]

Never mind what you would send them back to and the obvious inhumane conditions that exist there, adding to the already chaotic and unmanagable state of the country and the health/humanitarian considerations... HOW would you even get them there??? C'mon people, it is Temporary Protected Status, not citizenship or 10 year Green Cards...

It is an 18 month hiatus of deportation until the situation stabilizes.

[♥Muslimqueen♥ 2]

I don't believe that I was being selfish at all, I'm merely stating facts. In what way have I been selfish in my comments?

I said that ALL people are welcome in the US - just come legally... Is that selfish?

I said that other nations have suffered natural disasters and those victims weren't afforded asulym. THAT isn't being selfish.

I also expressed my sadness regarding what happened to the people and country of Haiti - THAT wasn't selfish.

Are you kidding me. Yes its Selfish. Everyone here on VJ is trying to get there spouse or loved ones here. But Haiti is going threw HELL right now. You expect them to send them back to NOTHING? You need to think about others.

[Angel and Gendy 1]

First off, Obama is offering immunity because people ALREADY IN THE US ILLEGALLY, are FROM Haiti.

The people being offered immunity, were not in Haiti when the earthquake happened.

ILLEGAL just doesn't mean what it used to.....

By the way, I find out next week if I'm going there for 14 or 21 days.

[Niels Bohr 72]

Glad you cleared things up!

Never mind what you would send them back to and the obvious inhumane conditions that exist there, adding to the already chaotic and unmanagable state of the country and the health/humanitarian considerations... HOW would you even get them there??? C'mon people, it is Temporary Protected Status, not citizenship or 10 year Green Cards...

It is an 18 month hiatus of deportation until the situation stabilizes.

[Dakine 26]

Word is there is 100 to 200K illegal Haitians in the US. I've yet to see how many are being and have been deported daily?

How many Haitians does Opamas' decision really effect?

Edited January 16, 2010 by Dakine

[Argentina 0]

You're making it seem as if the Haitians here are somehow being given preferential treatment. Even before the earthquake, Haiti was a horrible place to get deported to (mandatory prisons, anyone?). The Haitians who already have an order or deport are probably going to be sitting in deplorable US immigration detention centers - and somehow you are comparing this to your partner's Immigration petitioning process? You're talking about two VERY different things here. As someone said before, many countries have been granted TPS for much less than what Haiti has suffered now. Haiti probably should have qualified even before this! How you feel personally insulted by this is beyond me.

Also, coming into the US to seek asylum (from Haiti or wherever) is not ILLEGAL, and one should not judge all those whom you may call "Illegal." Especially when coming from a country with troubles such as Haiti. TPS is NOT immunity from deportation, not is it asylum - so maybe you should have researched TPS before posting such an inflammatory post.

Fresh off the AP wire is that in light of the tragedy in Haiti, President Obama is granting illegal status Haitians immunity to stay in the USA. Obama's view was that it wouldn't be fair to send them back to Haiti because of the devestation that occured there.

I for one feel the deepest of sympathy for people of Haiti but REALLY???? Immunity from deportation because Haiti suffered an earthquake????

I personally feel like people from Haiti (and all over the world) are welcome to immigrate LEGALLY to the USA, but since when does an earthquake qualify somone basically for asylum in the USA?

There are natural disasters all over the world on a regular basis (ie: the tsunami which all but destroyed Indonasia several years ago) that are tragic in their occurance, but victims of THOSE disaters weren't afforded any special immigration status.

I'm waiting for my fiancee's visa to be LEGALLY processed (as we all are on this forum) and I'm just a little insulted by President Obams's actions.

Alan

[Niels Bohr 72]

Who is Opama?

[Christi and Ian 24]

...not to mention that if the Haitians that are already here were deported it would put more stress on an already broken system in Haiti. The last thing they need down there right now is MORE people to take care of. Humanitarian efforts are already hampered by the lack of infrastructure.

You'd basically send them back to starve...

At the same time, the completely irrational and selfish part of me dearly hopes that this crisis won't cause our petition to take even longer...