CR-1 Questions

[mrs. wife! 3]

Proxy marriages are not recognized for immigration purposes.

I thought it was recognized if consummated. So even if they do it, USCIS will not recognize the marriage? Does she has to fill for fiancee visa then?

9 FAM 40.1 N1.3-2 Unconsummated

(CT:VISA-1165; 03-06-2009)

A proxy marriage, that has not been subsequently consummated, does not create or confer the status of “spouse” for immigration purposes pursuant to INA 101(a)(35). A party to an unconsummated proxy marriage may be processed as a nonimmigrant fiancé(e). A proxy marriage celebrated in a jurisdiction recognizing such marriage is generally considered to be valid, thus, an actual marriage in the United States is not necessary if such alien is admitted to the United States under INA provisions other than as a spouse.

(See 9 FAM 41.81 N1.1.)

[zenaxe 22]

...ok. so if i was not there my marrige is by proxy. there are diffrent customs diffrent countrys do things. this is so annyoing.

Typically in the West, people get married after they've met and probably without having family members as standing in place of spouses. Although this doesn't help you now, it's always a sound idea to have some reasonable understanding of the country and culture into which you are marrying to avoid potential problems such as the one you are describing.

Good luck to you guys.

Edited January 16, 2010 by zenaxe

[♥Muslimqueen♥ 2]

Typically in the West, people get married after they've met and probably without having family members as standing in place of spouses. Although this doesn't help you now, it's always a sound idea to have some reasonable understanding of the country and culture into which you are marrying to avoid potential problems such as the one you are describing.

Good luck to you guys.

I am from and have the same culture as my husband. And we have meet and had are wedding. I only had to have my uncle stand in my place during the "legial wedding".

[VanessaTony 3,567]

I am from and have the same culture as my husband. And we have meet and had are wedding. I only had to have my uncle stand in my place during the "legial wedding".

Okay I'm not trying to be mean but PLEASE stop hijacking this post. It's not about YOU, this is about someone else who HASN'T met their "husband". I understand the person you're responding to someone who quoted you but this is the issue when people come in and ask their OWN questions for a different situation, people get confused about who's who.

More to the point, it's irrelevant what culture you are, the part that was MOST important in zenaxe post was the reference to COUNTRY. I myself would never consider not being present at my own wedding, but if I did, I would definitely have looked into the legality of it, both with my marriage being recognised, and seeing the visa process was coming up, that it was legal in visa terms too...

Zenaxe wasn't trying to be offensive and was simply replying to your comment about "there are diffrent customs diffrent countrys do things. this is so annyoing."(sic) and noting that before immigrating, you should probably look into the rules and regulations of the country in question. And again, this isn't about YOU because YOU have consummated YOUR wedding, this topic is in regards to a person who has yet to meet their "spouse".

Edited January 16, 2010 by Vanessa&Tony

[Joseph and Tsion 0]

Hello everyone, I have some questions about the CR-1. My husband and I meet on the Internet We fell in love and got married June of 2009. We only got married by papers. We did not have a "Wedding". And i have never been to his country to meet him. We talk on Email. phone, on webcam everyday. and we know we love each other. But i dont know if i can file for a CR-1 becuase we have not had a wedding with a wedding dress and such. When he comes here we will have a small party with my family. But a wedding party is not important to us. I know when my case reaches the embessy in his country they will want pictures of are wedding. But we only got married on papers. I dont want to start it just to get denyed cuz we dont have pictures.

Thanks everyone.

should always have pictures....

[Anh map 2,098]

Anyone wanting learn more about dealing with proxy marriages should search for VJ member Paris Heart.

She has shared all of the ups and downs of her proxy experience here on VJ.

[zenaxe 22]

Okay I'm not trying to be mean but PLEASE stop hijacking this post. It's not about YOU, this is about someone else who HASN'T met their "husband". I understand the person you're responding to someone who quoted you but this is the issue when people come in and ask their OWN questions for a different situation, people get confused about who's who.

More to the point, it's irrelevant what culture you are, the part that was MOST important in zenaxe post was the reference to COUNTRY. I myself would never consider not being present at my own wedding, but if I did, I would definitely have looked into the legality of it, both with my marriage being recognised, and seeing the visa process was coming up, that it was legal in visa terms too...

Zenaxe wasn't trying to be offensive and was simply replying to your comment about "there are diffrent customs diffrent countrys do things. this is so annyoing."(sic) and noting that before immigrating, you should probably look into the rules and regulations of the country in question. And again, this isn't about YOU because YOU have consummated YOUR wedding, this topic is in regards to a person who has yet to meet their "spouse".

Thanks Vanessa & Tony, it did get a little confusing and I realize now I was responding to a different person that the original poster. I appreciate your comments.

[♥Muslimqueen♥ 2]

Okay I'm not trying to be mean but PLEASE stop hijacking this post. It's not about YOU, this is about someone else who HASN'T met their "husband". I understand the person you're responding to someone who quoted you but this is the issue when people come in and ask their OWN questions for a different situation, people get confused about who's who.

More to the point, it's irrelevant what culture you are, the part that was MOST important in zenaxe post was the reference to COUNTRY. I myself would never consider not being present at my own wedding, but if I did, I would definitely have looked into the legality of it, both with my marriage being recognised, and seeing the visa process was coming up, that it was legal in visa terms too...

Zenaxe wasn't trying to be offensive and was simply replying to your comment about "there are diffrent customs diffrent countrys do things. this is so annyoing."(sic) and noting that before immigrating, you should probably look into the rules and regulations of the country in question. And again, this isn't about YOU because YOU have consummated YOUR wedding, this topic is in regards to a person who has yet to meet their "spouse".

Im sorry about that. When i read this i thought it also applyed to me. So i wanted to be sure i would be ok. Im very sorry to the OP.

[missmyhubby 0]

Thank You to everyone for you answers. I'll go visit my husband and have are wedding over there then before starting my Journey.

And No problem MuslimQueen. You had questions related to this topic, so you posted them. I have no problem with that.

Thanks everyone again.

[♥Muslimqueen♥ 2]

Thank You to everyone for you answers. I'll go visit my husband and have are wedding over there then before starting my Journey.

And No problem MuslimQueen. You had questions related to this topic, so you posted them. I have no problem with that.

Thanks everyone again.

Oh, Thank you. I hope you have a very fast and easy Journey. Good Luck on everything!

[sachinky 465]

MQ--I would consult with a lawyer if I were in your place.

Yes, you consummated the marriage but I'm wondering about your marriage certificate--clearly it's not your signature on it, if you weren't there for the wedding ceremony. This is just my understanding and I'm sure someone more knowledgeable can chime in--but as far as I understand, your marriage certificate/marriage isn't deemed to be legal or valid for immigration purposes because it was a proxy marriage. But then again, I'm not a lawyer.

[♥Muslimqueen♥ 2]

MQ--I would consult with a lawyer if I were in your place.

Yes, you consummated the marriage but I'm wondering about your marriage certificate--clearly it's not your signature on it, if you weren't there for the wedding ceremony. This is just my understanding and I'm sure someone more knowledgeable can chime in--but as far as I understand, your marriage certificate/marriage isn't deemed to be legal or valid for immigration purposes because it was a proxy marriage. But then again, I'm not a lawyer.

I know lots of people from my and my husbands town who did this and they were fine. It says that after the wedding is consummated it becomes legal.