Lagos Consulate Round 3!!! Fight!!!

[Nwanyioma 11]

Hello VJ Members,

I know everyone has been anticipating my interview results. And guess what? We had the infamous Asian lady. According to my fiancee, he said that the interview went pretty good. He was called to her window.Before she proceded with the interview She said "Your fiancee the petitioner called the Senators office saying we had additional evidence. My fiancee gave her the call logs. She said "Wow" you guys talk everyday. He said Yes. Then she said lets talk. My fiancee then showed her pictures, she didnt say anything about those,then he showed the lease to the apartment that we are renting (I moved in January 9th.The original plan was for my fiancee to Arrive January 14 which is today).She asked him if I had family in Nigeria. He said Yes.Then she asked if my parents visit Nigeria often. He said Yes. Then she preceded and asked to see our emails. Now on the email, Me and my fiancee put alot of Your wife or your husband so he took a black marker and crossed them out. She asked "What is it that your omiting on these emails? He told the truth and said that we were addressing each other as husband and wife. She said then you two are married. He said no we are not. So they were going back and fourth, she even went as far as to show her supervisor the emails with the omissions. She stated that our relationship was really true I guess seeing all the calls (She compared my fiancee mobile number on the call log to the one the application). She continued and asked if we did a traditional introduction or engagement. He said No that Im busy that Im in nursing school. She was saying that American ladies dont address themselves as husband and wife if their not married.He then told her that my parents are igbo and I was born in the US, and we addressed each other in such a manner because we were madly in love.They then started to giggle and laugh with each other. I even sent my passport. She was like OH MY GOD. Can you believe that this petitoner sent her US Passport"? Thats what she was saying to other interviewers. Wow unbelieveable. He then told her that I sent my passport because we were desperate to be together. She kept pressing the issue on the omissions on the email. She asked when was the last time that I came to Nigeria? He said 1985. She then said you guys are truly a couple that why dont we file for k3 its much faster. My fiancee said no. That we are not married. She stated that she believes that we secretly got married in Nigeria. Then she started looking through my passport that I sent to see if I had actually visited Nigeria, and she was so dumb founded because she saw no visa stamps coming/leaving Nigeria. She had no evidence or proof that I came to Nigeria. She said ok. Well on a good day she can deny us because of omiting details on our email, saying thats fradulent. She said we have two options. We either go and file K3 or I scan all the pages of my enitre passport from when I last visited Nigeria. He told him that he schedule and can come back anytime that he wants with the additional documents. He asked is that all she needs and she said Yes. Documented on her computer and gave him letter requesting for additional documents. So when my fiancee called me at 9:30am my time, I immediately retrieved my old expired passport (For goodness sake it expired in 10/1990. I have nothing to hide, and enclosed is my visa stamps dated for 10/1985. I have nothing to hide. I FedEx it priority ($85.98) and I called Department of State to request transcipts of my passports issued to me on my name. The infamous Asian Lady kept our call logs and our emails. Im so tired of this run around. I strongly believe we would have been approved if not for those omissions on the emails.Not making any excuses but which right person that is in Love wouldnt do that? But what is there buisness? So my fiancee scheduled and interview for next week Thursaday January 21. Back to Lagos Consulate again. All this run around for the name of love. I dont mind because hes worth it. Hoping for the best.Im not discouraged.

Nwanyioma and Olukayode

[rodrigoandjanie 1]

So she made a big deal just because you guys call each other husband and wife sometimes and you're not actually married to each other? My fiancee and I do the same thing sometimes, I know a lot of couples who call each other this way but in her mind that's a fraud and you're actually married? This is ridiculous!

I'm sorry you two are going through this and I hope you can be with each other soon!

[Ricardo_C 4]

You guys are tough, and I'm sure you will prevail And victory will be sweet because of how hard you had to fight to earn it.

PS-- Many, MANY couples refer to each other as "hubby" and "wifey" regardless of marital status. What a ridiculous objection that woman had.

[Craneman 2]

I am confused, you have not been together since 1985, 25 years ago?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

So she made a big deal just because you guys call each other husband and wife sometimes and you're not actually married to each other? My fiancee and I do the same thing sometimes, I know a lot of couples who call each other this way but in her mind that's a fraud and you're actually married? This is ridiculous!

I'm sorry you two are going through this and I hope you can be with each other soon!

Fiancee visas are for fiancees. Not husbands and wives, not boyfriends and girlfriends. All this syrupy sweet nonsense gets people denied, it has happened in the past. You also, according to your PMs, have never visited him in Nigeria and I mentioned that this will be a problem as you are dealing with the most difficult consulate in the world. As you know, your best bet for an approval was an outside chance at an answer to a prayer. You were unprepared and sabotaged what evidence you did have. Blacking things out which you knew to be not in your favor was a terrible idea. Any attempt to conceal anything in the highest fraud consulate in the world is guaranteed to get you denied.

DO NOT refer to your fiance(e) as a spouse, doing so will get you denied in many consulates not just Lagos. At this point your best bet IS to go to Nigeria and get married and file for a CR-1. Appealing this will take longer and cost more.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

You guys are tough, and I'm sure you will prevail And victory will be sweet because of how hard you had to fight to earn it.

PS-- Many, MANY couples refer to each other as "hubby" and "wifey" regardless of marital status. What a ridiculous objection that woman had.

Lagos is the highest fraud consulate in the world, it is in a class all by itself. Visa applications there are the most scrutinized of any. The problem is NOT that they call each other husband and wife, the problem is they tried to conceal this in emails. They were concealing what is (or could be) material evidence relating to a visa application in the highest fraud consulate in the world. Consulates do not need a reason to deny other than they don't feel right about something. In Lagos it is particularly hard to make them "feel right"

This is a self-inflicted denial and the OP is best advised to get married and try again without the silly games.

[pushbrk 12,898]

Lagos is the highest fraud consulate in the world, it is in a class all by itself. Visa applications there are the most scrutinized of any. The problem is NOT that they call each other husband and wife, the problem is they tried to conceal this in emails. They were concealing what is (or could be) material evidence relating to a visa application in the highest fraud consulate in the world. Consulates do not need a reason to deny other than they don't feel right about something. In Lagos it is particularly hard to make them "feel right"

This is a self-inflicted denial and the OP is best advised to get married and try again without the silly games.

Since this is an overcome situation at the moment, not an appeal, I would provide the documents requested and wait for an answer. Otherwise, yes, so far this is a perfectly aimed shot in the foot.

[Nwanyioma 11]

I am confused, you have not been together since 1985, 25 years ago?

No No. Im only 26 years old.LOL. I last visited Nigeria 1985

[Nwanyioma 11]

Lagos is the highest fraud consulate in the world, it is in a class all by itself. Visa applications there are the most scrutinized of any. The problem is NOT that they call each other husband and wife, the problem is they tried to conceal this in emails. They were concealing what is (or could be) material evidence relating to a visa application in the highest fraud consulate in the world. Consulates do not need a reason to deny other than they don't feel right about something. In Lagos it is particularly hard to make them "feel right"

This is a self-inflicted denial and the OP is best advised to get married and try again without the silly games.

Hello Gary and Alla

Thanks so much for your kind advice. We take the blame for our carelessness.Honestly we got carried away with love. But nevertheless, we were given a 221 requiring for additional documents. All she wants is my old expired passport to see when I came to Nigeria

Nwanyioma

[pushbrk 12,898]

Hello Gary and Alla

Thanks so much for your kind advice. We take the blame for our carelessness.Honestly we got carried away with love. But nevertheless, we were given a 221 requiring for additional documents. All she wants is my old expired passport to see when I came to Nigeria

Nwanyioma

Don't make the mistake of expecting that your compliance with her request means a visa will be issued. You may have posted this elsewhere but since you haven't been to Nigeria, it's going to be important that you document any time you HAVE spent together elsewhere. Perhaps you already did that.

[mrs. wife! 3]

Hope everything goes well and they have the proof they need to see that you guys are not married!!!

Let us know how it went!

Good luck =)

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Please stop the name calling, insults and personal attacks, whether in English or otherwise. These are violations of the Terms of Service for Visa Journey. Just because you don't like the advice offered doesn't mean you have the right to abuse those offering the advice.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Nwanyioma, would you please clarify this statement ?

"No No. Im only 26 years old.LOL. I last visited Nigeria 1985 ."

You said you were last in Nigeria in 1985 and are only 26 years old. 1985 was 25 years ago - it is now 2010. Does this mean you were last in Nigeria as a baby? You have a passport with stamps from when you entered Nigeria as a baby? Are you sure you don't mean a different year than 1985? How old were you when you were last in Nigeria? How old were you when you had the passport showing your last entry to Nigeria? This is adding to the level of confusion about your case.

Edited January 16, 2010 by Kathryn41

[rodrigoandjanie 1]

Just to make things clear...I have no idea what this name means. That's not why I laughed.

[Nwanyioma 11]

Thanks Aniomaman for responding to Gary. Such brilliant response to his highly degrading post. If he has nothing to offer, he should best keep his comments to himself. He goes around posting such condescending posts all the time on Nigeria.

"Onye Ara" is an excellent description

@Nwanyioma.... Do send them all evidence requested. My prayers are with you.

Dise,

Thank you so much for your words of encouragement. I really need that right now. What she wants is my passport from when I was 2 years old to prove that I indeed visited Nigeria in 1985. The passport is expired. I sent it immediately priority via FedEx. When your desperate what can you do. That consulate is very very difficult. I cant wait for this visa journey to be over.Im tired.

Nwanyioma