UK Applicants - inportant info for you

[rebeccajo 14]

James, it's not that something is seriously wrong with the medical examiners.

It isn't their responsibility. YOU are supposed to take care of your vaccines for Adjustment of Status. They have NO requirement to see to your vaccines in order for you to get your K1.

Abby gave a very thorough explanation of the procedure. TY, pax!

[Patricia_and_andy 0]

Now I'm worrie and confused... is this the same for K-3 visas?

we do have a copy of Andy's ds-3025 but I know we didn't send any vaccination info in with our AOS

Patricia

[rebeccajo 14]

You might get RFE-d and you might not, panda. There's no clear consistent pattern on this yet.

The most you could be doing right now is trying to obtain Andy's DS-3025 and the name of civil surgeon and their fee, just in case.

Otherwise, just wait.

[Patricia_and_andy 0]

You might get RFE-d and you might not, panda. There's no clear consistent pattern on this yet.

The most you could be doing right now is trying to obtain Andy's DS-3025 and the name of civil surgeon and their fee, just in case.

Otherwise, just wait.

Thanks Rebecca... we do have a copy of his DS-3025 I just know we didn't send it with his AOS. I have emailed my idiot lawyer to see what he says about the whole thing... not because I think he knows what he is talking about... but because I find it funny to hear what he has to say...lol I know I should have fired him long ago.. but we paid him most of his fees upfront..... oh well live and learn.

THanks again Patricia

[Miranda&James 8]

James, it's not that something is seriously wrong with the medical examiners.

It isn't their responsibility. YOU are supposed to take care of your vaccines for Adjustment of Status. They have NO requirement to see to your vaccines in order for you to get your K1.

Abby gave a very thorough explanation of the procedure. TY, pax!

yes I am well aware that vaccinations are only needed for AOS.

Will the form DS-3025 be included in my medical package that is given to me at the embassy? I have had all my vaccinations required for AOS, I am assuming that evidence of those will be in the package for me to take to the states.

~James

[rebeccajo 14]

It might be James.

They SHOULD have given you the DS-3025. I would think if you phone them now they will send it to you.

I know this is confusing. Just trying to help.

[Miranda&James 8]

all is good now I think. I called them and they are sending me a copy.

Thanks for advice

~James

[rebeccajo 14]

Glad to hear it.

They are new - guess they made a mistake. Sorry it was on you.

James, if you find this frustrating, you should have seen on the old board the thread that resulted when this RFE problem first started to crop up last fall. It took a pretty good effort by several VJ members with fiances from all around the world to get the procedure nailed down; the thread was several pages long.

What's even more mysterious is that the RFE seems to be inconsistent. It might be that some consulate doctors are completing the I-693 and the supplement A, and that it is all in the sealed brown envelope. No one seems to know. So what you are doing is basically chasing something that you may not need - but it will save you time to get it sorted now, as sukie first suggested.

[pax 0]

It may even be at the discretion of individual AOs with USCIS; some may go strictly by the rules and want to see an I-693A (i.e. "their form"), while others might figure that the DS-3025 reflects the same information and they don't feel they need to see an I-693A.

The point I think it's important that people get is that if you're trying to RFE-proof yourself for AOS (which is a great idea; RFEs set people back for MONTHS), you should include an I-693A.

Actually, this really should be moved to the AOS forum, anyway.

[sharky 2]

Guys,

Just thought I would let you all know that I read that thread yesterday, and was also surprised to hear that you needed the DS 3025 form ( I didn't know about this one either!) for the AOS filing in the USA.

so I phoned the Birmingham Nuffield centre where I had my examination 2 months ago, and the woman was very helpful there and she said that she would send out the form to me in the post.

so if you need the form, ring your centre and they should send it to you!!

[Gladdy 0]

James, it's not that something is seriously wrong with the medical examiners.

It isn't their responsibility. YOU are supposed to take care of your vaccines for Adjustment of Status. They have NO requirement to see to your vaccines in order for you to get your K1.

Abby gave a very thorough explanation of the procedure. TY, pax!

yes I am well aware that vaccinations are only needed for AOS.

Will the form DS-3025 be included in my medical package that is given to me at the embassy? I have had all my vaccinations required for AOS, I am assuming that evidence of those will be in the package for me to take to the states.

~James

Hi Gladdy here, I had my medical in January at Knightsbridge doctors and they gave me a copy of my DS-3025 and there was no mention of any form other than that. I would assume that they would include any other forms required for the progression of your case and seeing as they are new at doing this kinda medical work I would think they would want to get it right so that they are seen to be operating in an efficient manner. I think they probably have included the other form I-693A in the package they send over to the Embassy ....no..?

[BlueRaiderUK 0]

Guys,

Just thought I would let you all know that I read that thread yesterday, and was also surprised to hear that you needed the DS 3025 form ( I didn't know about this one either!) for the AOS filing in the USA.

so I phoned the Birmingham Nuffield centre where I had my examination 2 months ago, and the woman was very helpful there and she said that she would send out the form to me in the post.

so if you need the form, ring your centre and they should send it to you!!

Yep me too, Birmingham were very helpful, called yesterday at 2pm, my DS-3025 came today, Thanks go to Sukie

[rebeccajo 14]

James, it's not that something is seriously wrong with the medical examiners.

It isn't their responsibility. YOU are supposed to take care of your vaccines for Adjustment of Status. They have NO requirement to see to your vaccines in order for you to get your K1.

Abby gave a very thorough explanation of the procedure. TY, pax!

yes I am well aware that vaccinations are only needed for AOS.

Will the form DS-3025 be included in my medical package that is given to me at the embassy? I have had all my vaccinations required for AOS, I am assuming that evidence of those will be in the package for me to take to the states.

~James

Hi Gladdy here, I had my medical in January at Knightsbridge doctors and they gave me a copy of my DS-3025 and there was no mention of any form other than that. I would assume that they would include any other forms required for the progression of your case and seeing as they are new at doing this kinda medical work I would think they would want to get it right so that they are seen to be operating in an efficient manner. I think they probably have included the other form I-693A in the package they send over to the Embassy ....no..?

I'm sure they want to do it right. But they aren't responsible for the 'progression' of your immigration. The method that's been explained already is the best way to 'bullet proof' yourself.

[Gladdy 0]

James, it's not that something is seriously wrong with the medical examiners.

It isn't their responsibility. YOU are supposed to take care of your vaccines for Adjustment of Status. They have NO requirement to see to your vaccines in order for you to get your K1.

Abby gave a very thorough explanation of the procedure. TY, pax!

yes I am well aware that vaccinations are only needed for AOS.

Will the form DS-3025 be included in my medical package that is given to me at the embassy? I have had all my vaccinations required for AOS, I am assuming that evidence of those will be in the package for me to take to the states.

~James

ok folks here is some more input it might help some, I have just called the Knightsbridge doctors and they say they have never ever heard of the form I- 693A and are actually taking it up with the US Embassy staff to find out of they are missing some information requirements that may be important to their clients.

I told her that it is being asked for as part of the submission for the AOS once in the USA and married and she said well as far as they are concerned they have no obligation or even knowledge of anyone requiring additional paperwork and if its a USCIS requirement then that has to be dealt with once you are in the US and dealing with the USCIS there for AOS filing.

[pax 0]

I told her that it is being asked for as part of the submission for the AOS once in the USA and married and she said well as far as they are concerned they have no obligation or even knowledge of anyone requiring additional paperwork and if its a USCIS requirement then that has to be dealt with once you are in the US and dealing with the USCIS there for AOS filing.

Yes. That's exactly right. There's no reason why the clinic in Knightsbridge would have the I-693A available.

I think we're having a bit of a misunderstanding here, a mistake that's easy to make and one that I made in the past (Yodrak is who originally cleared it up for me). When you file your I-129F petition, you are dealing with USCIS, a division of the Department of Homeland Security under Michael Chertoff. One entirely separate government agency from the Department of State under Condoleezza Rice, which is who you're dealing with when you apply for your visa. You cannot apply for the visa until you have a basis on which to apply; that is, the approved I-129F petition after it leaves USCIS and goes to the NVC and the particular consulate with which you're dealing.

The moral of the story is this: DS-3025 is a Department of State form. I-693A is a USCIS form. You don't fill out USCIS forms when you apply for your visa, nor do you fill out DoS forms when your USC first submits the petition or when you apply to adjust status. There is no reason why the DoS-authorized medical provider overseas would have an I-693A, as your case is not under the jurisdiction of USCIS at that particular time.

Finally, the I-693 and/or the I-693A must be filled out by a USCIS-certified civil surgeon in the States. Them's the rules as far as we know.

The point of this whole discussion is that some people have received RFEs because they did not submit an I-693A, even if a DS-3025 was included either in their "brown packet" from DoS or their AOS application packet. Some people have made it all the way to the green card without ever submitting an I-693A. But the I-485 does clearly state that an I-693A should be submitted. And since AOS can be long, confusing, and expensive, it makes sense, as Rebecca said, to "bulletproof" yourself against RFEs in AOS. This is one good way to do it.