Visa denied!

[Miss smarty pants 84]

any age difference, if there is, how many years?

Just five years difference. Not much. He and I also are both educated college graduates. He got the blonde american lady.

What is the denial reason stated on the letter they gave to your fiancee?

There is no reason stated on the paper. It is just stamped denied- to be returned to USCIS for case denial.

[Nwanyioma 11]

Tracyandnabil,

Im very sorry to hear about your visa denial. Its very discouraging. Are you five yrs older than your fiancee? I dont know whats the big deal about the age difference. I was denied too. I was very heart broken. I gave up keeply until my fiancee was granted a second interview. I will pray for you. Its very sad. Take care and stay blessed.

Nwanyioma

[Miss smarty pants 84]

Tracyandnabil,

Im very sorry to hear about your visa denial. Its very discouraging. Are you five yrs older than your fiancee? I dont know whats the big deal about the age difference. I was denied too. I was very heart broken. I gave up keeply until my fiancee was granted a second interview. I will pray for you. Its very sad. Take care and stay blessed.

Nwanyioma

How did you get a second interview? What can I do? He was issued a 221-g. I have already called my congressman and they say they will e-mail the Consulate. What else can I do to get this looked at again? We had so much evidence and they didn't care and he was so nervous.

[Nwanyioma 11]

How did you get a second interview? What can I do? He was issued a 221-g. I have already called my congressman and they say they will e-mail the Consulate. What else can I do to get this looked at again? We had so much evidence and they didn't care and he was so nervous.

Tracyandnabil,

Your guess is as good as mine. I want to say GOD. But on a serious note my fiancee was flat out denied. NO AP NO AR. Denied. I called my senators office that same day. She said that she can only inquiry about our case but we were not guaranteed a second interview. Im dealing with a tough consulate: Lagos Consulate. What so funny is that they sent my senators office a later dated december 31 that they already gave us a second interview for January 14. I want to say goodluck that I inherited from my mom. Divine intervention.

[dillon 6]

Very to sorry about this tracyandnabil...don't give up.

Nwanyioma...good luck on your second interview this week...hope it has a postive outcome!

[~kiyah~ 14]

I responded to your PM with links which are present in my signature. Many have already said it, and it does hold true with Casablanca. This is a high fraud post, many petitions/applications are returned for review along with a recommendation for revocation.

It is very sad, and I hate to say it but this seems to be the only tool they utilize to fight the fraud they see on a daily basis. I suspect this is why they are rude and treat many beneficiaries as if they were criminals. This certainly isn't how they have been trained to handle cases, but this is how they're handling many of them.

What burns me is the fact that many of these consular officers are immigrants themselves, so they KNOW the beneficiary is nervous and it is used to their advantage during the interview process. On the flip-side of this coin, it burns me even more to know that those who attemt to immigrate under false intentions are the reason it is this way, we have them to personally thank for the hard time we have faced.

You have already contacted your congressman, but as another said, try to go over each question from the interview with your fiance. Try to determine what you think may be the issue. If your congressman has this information on hand, they can attempt pushing to have this issued addressed before the petition is returned by providing your fiance a chance to address it head on. Also, calling the consulate may be a better avenue for your congressman, not an email.

Even if your file is returned in the end, it is well worth the effort to try and stop it. I know of 2 who have stopped their file from being returned by this consulate, and in both cases a visa was issued.

I absolutely know all too well this is hard, it physically hurts and you have already waited to be together only to have this happen. Try focusing your anger, anxiety and frustration on the tasks at hand.

It should however give you some hope to know that there are others who have been through exactly what you are going through right now, and many of us have been reunited.

When this happened to us in 2006, there were literally 2 other VJ members who were also going through the same. There is now a large number of us and we have stuck together, pooling our experiences, and arming those who are faced with the issue with information they need to understand what happens and what their options might be.

~kiyah~

[sofianiami 0]

I understand your feeling I ve been in this situation last week with my fiance in Amman, Jordan Embassy, they gave him a refusal sheet with a green sheet that your case under AP and it will take from 1 month to infinity

[Peace be still 6]

So sorry to hear what happen to you. It also happen to and my fiance at the time. you can read my story on my timeline. May GOD bless you and comfort your broken heart.

[Kil 0]

Sorry to hear you were denied. Just move to Morocco. I would have moved to Peru if my fiancee waas denied.

Visa denied! OMG! My fiancee went for his K-1 interview today. We had everything.....phone calls every single day....500 pages of e-mails.....proof of my visit to Morocco.....pictures of me with him and with his family......I make way more than enough money......I had everything. But they denied the visa. He said they were rude and questioning him rudely and made him very nervous and then they said......no visa! Omg. I have waited so long! What now!!???!!! What can I do. I am in tears!

[Peace be still 6]

Sorry to hear you were denied. Just move to Morocco. I would have moved to Peru if my fiancee waas denied.

Kil I know you have good intentions, but people have careers that they just can't walk away from. But I think it was a beutiful thing to move to Peru. However, if people have responsibilities like bills, that have to get paid inorder to keep your credit score good. My advice would be not to go to Morocco and live unless you have made appropiate arrangements back here that won't ruin your life here there if you go. So think about that seniro really hard and long.

I married my fiance 3wks after they sent my K1 petition back from Morocco, and it only took us 4mos to get everything approved and have him here with me in the states on a CR1 Visa. So don't listen to people that tell you that you have to wait to find out. HOG WASH. The CR1 is a new petition so you can file it without waiting for them to come up with a decision about your K1. Myself and brooklyn on this site both got denied around the sametime and we both went and married our men around the same time last year this time, and both of our men are here with us. I just want you to know that it doesn't end here ok. I too had a strong case. I am an educated woman, and my husband who was my fiance at the time felt like they didn't feel he was good enough for me. I would start looking at all the paperwork you will need to go and get married, and start making that plan to go to Morocco and get married and refile your CR1 case. I didn't wait to see what was wrong because I know my man, and I also know that there were no fraud in our relationship. If ALLAH wants you to marry on your husband soil then my dear go and do so. PM anytime you like to and I will be happy to talk with you.

[TBoneTX 46,189]

He got the blonde american lady.

She's infamous. For a while, I was wondering whether she'd been transferred to Ecuador. Sorry that [1] yours is still there, and [2] there are TWO such now.

[Knobby_Wheezer 0]

Quoted from GoldenGate (who quoted from a US web site)

* We will treat you with dignity and respect, even if we are unable to grant you a visa.

---seems that this did not happen from what you've said

* We will treat you as an individual and your case as unique.

---seems that your fiancé was not treated as an individual (mentioning actions of a brother is immaterial to him as an individual) and, therefore, the case was also not treated as unique (if it is being used as a stop-gap to end fraud----which is ongoing and not unique by any stretch)

* We will remember that, to you, a visa interview may be a new or intimidating experience and that you may be nervous.

---somehow this was twisted around to show a different light

Just mentioning these things that I noticed in case you can use them in discussions / pleadings with US officials who may be able to help you.

Edited January 13, 2010 by Knobby_Wheezer

[Munesh and Suz 0]

Customer Service Statement to Visa Applicants

The Department of State manages the visa process strictly but fairly in order to best protect the United States. We are committed to the essential openness for which the United States has always been known. Travel to the United States is welcomed and encouraged.

We promise to you, the visa applicant, that:

* We will treat you with dignity and respect, even if we are unable to grant you a visa.

* We will treat you as an individual and your case as unique.

* We will remember that, to you, a visa interview may be a new or intimidating experience and that you may be nervous.

* We will use the limited time available for the interview to get as full a picture as possible of your travel plans and intentions.

* We will use our available resources to fairly assist all applicants to get appointments to allow travel in time for business, study, and other important obligations.

* We will post detailed and accurate information on visa requirements and application procedures on every Embassy and Consulate website.

* We will provide information on nonimmigrant appointment waiting times at every Embassy and Consulate posted on http://travel.state.gov.

* We will explain the reason for any visa denial to you.

Furthermore, if you are a:

* Student, we will make every effort to ensure that you get an appointment and, if qualified, a visa in time to start classes.

* Medical and humanitarian emergency traveler, we will expedite processing for those dealing with life threatening emergencies.

* Business traveler, we will establish appropriate mechanisms to facilitate business travel and expedite cases of particular concern to American business.

At the same time, we expect you, the visa applicant, to:

* Plan your travel and visa application as far in advance as possible.

* Complete your application fully and accurately.

* Be forthcoming about your purpose and plans.

* Prepare for your interview by being able to clearly and concisely describe your intentions.

They say this and they can post this all over the damn place but they don't follow these guidelines! They are full of ######! And it's true - those who are lying get through easy and those of us who are real and have tons of evidence are given a hard time and plus they try to base our realationshipt and our visa application on other past - ours is not treated as an individual case. BULLSHIT!

[KarimaG 2]

She's infamous. For a while, I was wondering whether she'd been transferred to Ecuador. Sorry that [1] yours is still there, and [2] there are TWO such now.

My fiance got a short brown haired women who he said was american. I asked him if he was sureee without a doubt she was brown haired?? Thinking by the bad way he was treated that she must have been the infamous blonde everyone had been talking about.

[Y&E 12]

All I can offer is my sympathy but I hope that it all works out for you. Maybe marrying and then going the CR1 route may be a better option for you.

I am also worried that London will take this view of our relationship as it has not even been a year yet but we are both sure and determined that it is what we want and we hate to be apart from one another. Hopefully the duration of the relationship will not count against us.