Has anyone ever used this for evidence?

[JoeCanuk 3]

Has anyone ever included a firearm permit in their collection of evidence for the I-751? It has my address and it's government issued so I guess it would be ok. What do you think?

[bostonparis 0]

Does it have both of your names on it? Otherwise, not sure what the purpose of it would be.

[v333k 59]

Has anyone ever included a firearm permit in their collection of evidence for the I-751? It has my address and it's government issued so I guess it would be ok. What do you think?

I wouldn't... unless it is your only piece of evidence

If you have enough evidence, then I would ignore this unless it has both your names on it.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

There is some serious discussion whether or not a LPR is allowed to own a gun, permit or not. If you need some credible source, I'll dig it out for you, but for the purpose of your question my answer is simple: are you out of your mind?

Why not sending the voter's registration card you received from the US Government instead?

Edited January 11, 2010 by Just Bob

[sh18 3]

There is some serious discussion whether or not a LPR is allowed to own a gun, permit or not. If you need some credible source, I'll dig it out for you, but for the purpose of your question my answer is simple: are you out of your mind?

Why not sending the voter's registration card you received from the US Government instead?

Discussion? There is no discussion: it is allowed in most (if not all) states.

[JoeCanuk 3]

Does it have both of your names on it? Otherwise, not sure what the purpose of it would be.

No, just mine. I thought it would be one more government issued document to include which shows my address.

I wouldn't... unless it is your only piece of evidence

If you have enough evidence, then I would ignore this unless it has both your names on it.

LOL one would need a prayer if it was their only evidence eh? No, I think I have enough evidence; as I said in my other reply I thought it would be useful because it's one more government issued document with my address on it.

There is some serious discussion whether or not a LPR is allowed to own a gun, permit or not. If you need some credible source, I'll dig it out for you, but for the purpose of your question my answer is simple: are you out of your mind?

Why not sending the voter's registration card you received from the US Government instead?

Bob, I obtained my permit from the state of Indiana because I am a legal permanent resident. I would have been in trouble if I said I was a citizen. You're welcome to dig out a credible source for me but I think the state of Indiana is fairly credible.

I do not have a voter's registration card. That would be illegal.

Discussion? There is no discussion: it is allowed in most (if not all) states.

Thank you. It definitely is allowed in Indiana at least.

[Dakine 26]

Has anyone ever included a firearm permit in their collection of evidence for the I-751? It has my address and it's government issued so I guess it would be ok. What do you think?

Looks like you already applied to ROC?

Your NOA1 shows your address for one and is government issued!!

[JoeCanuk 3]

Looks like you already applied to ROC?

Your NOA1 shows your address for one and is government issued!!

No, I'm sending my application out today. I see how you miunderstood. I was eligible to send it in November but didn't have the funds.

Edited January 12, 2010 by JoeCanuk

[Udella&Wiz 325]

I don't see why not - it shows your address and is a good piece of evidence showing your current address. I'm sure you have other items which show your wife at that same address so that's good proof. Every piece of evidence doesn't have to have both your names on it.

[sh18 3]

I don't see why not - it shows your address and is a good piece of evidence showing your current address. I'm sure you have other items which show your wife at that same address so that's good proof. Every piece of evidence doesn't have to have both your names on it.

What he said

[*JG* 2]

What he said

I agree.

Good luck to you!

[JoeCanuk 3]

I agree.

Good luck to you!

Thank you very much. Thanks everyone.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

You do understand that voting is prohibited for LPRs, correct? If you voted, you would lose your LPR status, be deported, and be banned for the US for the rest of your life.

There is some serious discussion going on among constitutional scholars, people who know more about the constitution than you, me, your wife, my wife, and all our children combined, and according to those super smart experts it is not clear whether the second amendment applies to non-citizens, LPRs included. Just google "Second Amendment non citizens" and you can spend a week reading this.

If non-citzens are indeed not allowed to bear arms, then owning a firearm is a firearm violation. Firearm violations, just like drug-related and prostitution-related offenses (child porn included). make an LPR deportable with a lifelong ban attached. For that reason, immigration attorneys clearly advise LPRs not to touch any gun, not even with a hunting permit and a gun permit.

It's totally up to you whether or not you want to use it, but if you do, there's no help for you. You might as well vote. They don't ask for proof of citizenship there either. Always remember: not knowing something doesn't count as an excuse. "I'm sorry, Detective, I didn't know it's illegal to kill somebody." And assuming something is legal, doesn't count either: "I'm sorry, your Honor, I truly assuming it's legal for me to own a gun."

Good luck to you.

[Bobby+Umit 161]

You do understand that voting is prohibited for LPRs, correct? If you voted, you would lose your LPR status, be deported, and be banned for the US for the rest of your life.

There is some serious discussion going on among constitutional scholars, people who know more about the constitution than you, me, your wife, my wife, and all our children combined, and according to those super smart experts it is not clear whether the second amendment applies to non-citizens, LPRs included. Just google "Second Amendment non citizens" and you can spend a week reading this.

If non-citzens are indeed not allowed to bear arms, then owning a firearm is a firearm violation. Firearm violations, just like drug-related and prostitution-related offenses (child porn included). make an LPR deportable with a lifelong ban attached. For that reason, immigration attorneys clearly advise LPRs not to touch any gun, not even with a hunting permit and a gun permit.

It's totally up to you whether or not you want to use it, but if you do, there's no help for you. You might as well vote. They don't ask for proof of citizenship there either. Always remember: not knowing something doesn't count as an excuse. "I'm sorry, Detective, I didn't know it's illegal to kill somebody." And assuming something is legal, doesn't count either: "I'm sorry, your Honor, I truly assuming it's legal for me to own a gun."

Good luck to you.

Uh, Bob - he knows he can't vote.

It is also legal for an LPR to own a firearm, as long as there is no state/local law against it.

Even says so in the USCIS M-618 pamplet they give LPR's (page 8)

Your Rights and Responsibilities

What you do now as a permanent resident can affect your ability to become a U.S. citizen later. The process of becoming a U.S. citizen is called “naturalization.”

As a permanent resident, you have the right to:

* Purchase or own a firearm, as long as there are no state or local restrictions saying you cant.

Edited January 12, 2010 by Bobby+Umit

[JoeCanuk 3]

You do understand that voting is prohibited for LPRs, correct? If you voted, you would lose your LPR status, be deported, and be banned for the US for the rest of your life.

There is some serious discussion going on among constitutional scholars, people who know more about the constitution than you, me, your wife, my wife, and all our children combined, and according to those super smart experts it is not clear whether the second amendment applies to non-citizens, LPRs included. Just google "Second Amendment non citizens" and you can spend a week reading this.

If non-citzens are indeed not allowed to bear arms, then owning a firearm is a firearm violation. Firearm violations, just like drug-related and prostitution-related offenses (child porn included). make an LPR deportable with a lifelong ban attached. For that reason, immigration attorneys clearly advise LPRs not to touch any gun, not even with a hunting permit and a gun permit.

It's totally up to you whether or not you want to use it, but if you do, there's no help for you. You might as well vote. They don't ask for proof of citizenship there either. Always remember: not knowing something doesn't count as an excuse. "I'm sorry, Detective, I didn't know it's illegal to kill somebody." And assuming something is legal, doesn't count either: "I'm sorry, your Honor, I truly assuming it's legal for me to own a gun."

Good luck to you.

Bob, where did I say that I could vote? In fact, I said that I could not. Now, despite what constitutional scholars may THINK it IS legal in Indiana for an LPR to get a firearm permit. I HAD to prove my immigration status because I am not a citizen. I had to show my green card, etc. I got my permit from the state police, not a cracker jack box.

I find many of your posts useful and well-informed but I'm sorry, you're just not very well-informed on this matter...at least when it comes to the state of Indiana.

PS I do not own a firearm. I got my permit for the job that I had...before recession downsizing. lol

Edited January 13, 2010 by JoeCanuk