Re: income and support forms.

[mistylovesnikras 0]

So, here is the deal.

I am a US citizen, fiance is from India. He has and makes a great deal more of money than I do, including a good size amount in savings. I am working and have held the same job for more than a year, but I fall below the US poverty guidelines; much less make 125% ABOVE.

What can we possibly do? I am totally stumped right now.

[dasaleph 0]

Sorry about that.

But you can get a co-sponsor or two, then it should be not a problem that you don't meet the financial requirements yourself.

Good luck!

[BRB 6]

If his income from the same source will stay the same he can use his income. He can also use his assets if they can be converted to cash within a year. Your assets can also be used. Read the I-864 instructions and do what is best for you. In any case if he presents his assets it should help along with a co-sponsor if needed.

[pushbrk 13,157]

If his income from the same source will stay the same he can use his income. He can also use his assets if they can be converted to cash within a year. Your assets can also be used. Read the I-864 instructions and do what is best for you. In any case if he presents his assets it should help along with a co-sponsor if needed.

The I-864 is not used in a fiance visa case. The Consulate may choose to consider the beneficiary's income or assets but it is entirely up to them.

[christeen 966]

You can have him transfer enough to your account to use as assets to offset the shortage you have in meeting the income requirements... you need 3x the shortfall.. For example,if you earn $15,000 you fall approx $4,000 below the income requirements, so you can deposit 3 x 4k into an account under you so $12,000 which should suffice to prove you can support him...

OR you can look for a co-sponsor

[mistylovesnikras 0]

You can have him transfer enough to your account to use as assets to offset the shortage you have in meeting the income requirements... you need 3x the shortfall.. For example,if you earn $15,000 you fall approx $4,000 below the income requirements, so you can deposit 3 x 4k into an account under you so $12,000 which should suffice to prove you can support him...

OR you can look for a co-sponsor

Really? That would be wonderful! I don't know that he necesarily has those assets YET but I'm going to talk to him about wether that would be a realistic option for us. There are some possible options he has for a co-sponsor, but I know he would feel better if he didn't HAVE to use that route. I had scoured around and it seemed like there was simply NOTHING we could do but find a co-sponsor or bust. This is great news!

The I-864 is not used in a fiance visa case. The Consulate may choose to consider the beneficiary's income or assets but it is entirely up to them.

Well, we would not be using the I-864. We would be married at the time of filing our paperwork. We would be getting the IR-C1 (Um, I always screw up the name of it). Would this make a difference or?

[christeen 966]

If you are married, you are filing the 864 and it is a CR1 visa...

[Malrothien 6]

You can have him transfer enough to your account to use as assets to offset the shortage you have in meeting the income requirements... you need 3x the shortfall.. For example,if you earn $15,000 you fall approx $4,000 below the income requirements, so you can deposit 3 x 4k into an account under you so $12,000 which should suffice to prove you can support him...

OR you can look for a co-sponsor

Erm... I don't think it works like that.

[mistylovesnikras 0]

You can have him transfer enough to your account to use as assets to offset the shortage you have in meeting the income requirements... you need 3x the shortfall.. For example,if you earn $15,000 you fall approx $4,000 below the income requirements, so you can deposit 3 x 4k into an account under you so $12,000 which should suffice to prove you can support him...

OR you can look for a co-sponsor

Is this something you did or know someone who did it? Do you know where I could possible cross reference this information with a legitmate legal source? I.E where did you learn about it?

Thanks!

[BRB 6]

The I-864 is not used in a fiance visa case. The Consulate may choose to consider the beneficiary's income or assets but it is entirely up to them.

Thanks for the correction but it looks like she will need the I-864 instead of the I-134 since it will be a CR1 visa

[Penguin_ie 5,997]

Is this something you did or know someone who did it? Do you know where I could possible cross reference this information with a legitmate legal source? I.E where did you learn about it?

Thanks!

What part of it are you looking for sources for? If you mean sponsoring on assets, we did that, as my USC husband was unemployed at the time we applied for my visa. Details of what is needed is on the I-864 form.

As a word of warning, it is best using the assets to buy a home in the USA or something like that; embassies can be suspicious if a large amount of money suddenly lands in a USC petitioner's account shortly before a visa application; they may think the money is payment for a "greencard/ fraud marriage". or will be transfered back out to a foreign place after the visa is granted.

[Malrothien 6]

What part of it are you looking for sources for? If you mean sponsoring on assets, we did that, as my USC husband was unemployed at the time we applied for my visa. Details of what is needed is on the I-864 form.

She was speaking of Christeen's post about using assets to make up the difference if you make below the poverty level - not solely using assets.

[Penguin_ie 5,997]

She was speaking of Christeen's post about using assets to make up the difference if you make below the poverty level - not solely using assets.

This should help so: "What Cash Value of Assets is Needed?

To be counted, the cash value of assets must equal five times the difference between the sponsor's income and 125 percent of the poverty line for the household size.

For example, a petitioner/sponsor with a household size of four and an income of $18,000 would need assets equal to five times the difference between his/her income and the income required for a family of four at the current federal poverty guidelines level. He/she would also need to show evidence of mortgages, liens, and liabilities against the assets. he cash value of assets required is different for these sponsors: Sponsors of immediate relative spouses and children of U.S. citizens must only show assets in the amount of three times the difference between the poverty guideline and actual household income. "

From: USCIS info on using assets

[christeen 966]

She was speaking of Christeen's post about using assets to make up the difference if you make below the poverty level - not solely using assets.

No, seriously, that is how it works on the 864... Only they do accept 3x the 125% poverty level if it is the USC's assets...

From the website; Yes. The sponsor’s income is counted first. Next the personal assets and/or the income and assets of household members who have signed an I-864A are counted. If, using all of those sources, the minimum income requirement is met, the affidavit would be "sufficient." To be counted, the cash value of assets must equal five times the difference between the sponsor's income and 125 percent of the poverty line for the household size. For example, if you have a family of six, but your income is only $30,000 you are $3,500 short of the required income level. You would need to show assets of at least $17,500 ($3,500 x 5).

[christeen 966]

In fact, the 864 instructions under #29 shows a clear example of this, technically, the USC should be able to show 3x whereas using the intending immigrants savings would be 5x. We used assets and had to show 3x the 125% in the bank under my (the USC) name, this was the specific request of the Naples CO.