HCMC Interview roll call

[lindal24 1]

I submited more evidence of relationship in May. It wasn't anything big. ticket stubs,pictures. I don't know if it changed the AP wait time but, I wanted to be sure they had the option not to send it back to USA. I read what you have here and below.

All was copied from HCMC consulate website

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Section 221(g) of the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act states that visa applications lacking required documents must be denied until such time as those documents are submitted and found to be sufficient. If, for any reason, the applicant is not eligible for a visa at the time of the interview, the applicant will receive an explanation in writing and a request for the specific documents still required, if any.

Applicants refused under Section 221(g) who are specifically requested to submit more documents may submit the additional information either via registered mail or in person at the Consulate between 1:00 p.m. and 3:00 p.m. Monday through Friday, except holidays. The applicant should include the blue or green refusal sheet asking for additional information.

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Don't give them the blue paper! it is your pass to get inside!!! "lacking Required documents must be denied" , "May submit additional Information"

Good luck,

Fred

Maybe they're referring to specifically the 1st blue slip...they probably want to know what they asked for in the first place! hahaha...

[ScottThuy 140]

With the CO phone call to John last week, I expect him to be out of AP next week...

It would be nice if they took the time to call us as the petitioner and take a moment to discuss the case with us.... Ask questions.... get a feel for who we are and what we are doing.... Its alot better than the lurking and sneaking.... and avoiding those that are awaiting answers.

If they were doing an investigation and one of the people being investigated walked into the office and said I am here to help what can I do... a normal investigator would take the opportunity and ask any questions they could think of.... Why not do this now? Too busy? C'mon...

I understand that they are looking into red flags, but who better to ask about them than the ones involved?

[fred n Dao Honey 0]

I submited more evidence of relationship in May. It wasn't anything big. ticket stubs,pictures. I don't know if it changed the AP wait time but, I wanted to be sure they had the option not to send it back to USA. I read what you have here and below.

All was copied from HCMC consulate website

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Section 221(g) of the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act states that visa applications lacking required documents must be denied until such time as those documents are submitted and found to be sufficient. If, for any reason, the applicant is not eligible for a visa at the time of the interview, the applicant will receive an explanation in writing and a request for the specific documents still required, if any.

Applicants refused under Section 221(g) who are specifically requested to submit more documents may submit the additional information either via registered mail or in person at the Consulate between 1:00 p.m. and 3:00 p.m. Monday through Friday, except holidays. The applicant should include the blue or green refusal sheet asking for additional information.

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Don't give them the blue paper! it is your pass to get inside!!! "lacking Required documents must be denied" , "May submit additional Information"

Good luck,

Fred

Maybe they're referring to specifically the 1st blue slip...they probably want to know what they asked for in the first place! hahaha...

No, In May I wanted to get something in the file to show I was there banging on the window. Asking questions.

[ScottThuy 140]

I am still amazed that they had you wait so long....

[ScottThuy 140]

come to think of it... Like all government organizations like the IRS and social security office we just have to take what they give us. I remember being frustrated whenever I had to deal with the government on my taxes or even to dispute something at the driver's license office. I feels the consulate is going to treat us like the other government agencies in the US where they are paid with US tax payers money.

I think this is a little different since this is more subjective than objective. The IRS and SSN offices are supposed to follow rules to the "T" but the consulatar officers, not so much...

One of my students got pushy with the CO a couple of months ago... He felt the questions being asked were ridiculous... (they were) and he said just give me the visa I am busy today..... The CO quickly said denied and threw him out... There was no other reason for denial as the guy has very strong ties to VN being the wealthy CFO of a large company and having a large family there... if the case is in AP, there is already some reason that they did not approve it.... it would not take much to piss them off and have them deny it...

[fred n Dao Honey 0]

I have to disagree w/ you Fred. I do believe that they are doing additional processing, and I am glad that they are. Yes, it affects many of us, but think about all the cases that are fraudulent. We see alot of cases get by, but never hear of those that don't.

This additional time should not affect our relationship with our loved ones, they should make it stronger. People entering into relationship with other individuals from different countries are and should be aware of the commitment they are entering. People in AP need to realize that it isn't personal, there are just things on paper that seem out of place. Those people who entered into fraudulent engagements/marriages did the right things and covered all their bases--they fooled the system--but that will catch up with them sooner than later!

After I was placed into AP, I went and visited the embassy to find out the status of our case. The woman at the window said that our case is pending and left it at that. I was the one that initiated wanting to speak with the CO in charge of our case. If I hadn't asked, I probably would still be in AP. The reason I said this is because when I did come back to speak to the CO, he did ask me to clarify some things for him. Call that additional processing or investigating, I'm glad that my case was picked. It just goes to prove that the COs are doing their jobs to the best of their abilities.

To all those that are in AP or find themselves in AP, hang in there. Be patient, be persistent! Goodluck and all the best!!

Ok if you want to call it Additional Processing you can. The man told me investigation.

Maybe for you it is not personal but, when in an interview they ask about a Wedding date knowing they are not going to give the visa I take that personal. When Dao's two sons come here and go to school it will be hard enough to start in a foriegn school, now because the Consulate drag their feet they have to start late in the year without summer english tutoring. I take that personal. When I have to figure out when and how to get attention from a government employee that is too busy for me. I take that personal. I laid all my information out for the Visa process expecting to be treated fair and with respect, the Consulate did niether. I take that personal.

I agree with you. If I hadn't spent the time to go to the Consulate and bang on window 15 I think we would still be in AP. Also agree that our commitment to or relationship is stronger but I think it would be the same without AP/investigating.

The consulate wasted my time. I take that personal too. Does anyone else take it personal?

Fred

Linda, Please don't take this personal, I am just having fun stirring the pot.

[fred n Dao Honey 0]

I am still amazed that they had you wait so long....

What can I say they were Additionally Processing us. I think it had a lot to do with the VN translator and our lack of knowledge of the process. We will never know the entire reason. Maybe they lost the file for a while.

[BinhJerome 14]

Lets divide up those of us that are in AP. Please add to this post and put if you are in AP on a K1 visa or on a CR1 visa, please list your first blue and your reason for that blue along with your second blue that put you into the AP limbo. This will help those determine what they need to do, and help us figure out if we can expect results and possibly when. With the difference in case and people emailing and getting the same response that they do not go out of order it might be helpful to separate us all out. Please if you are denied, give us that reason as well. This is the current list of those I know that are in AP

Those of us currently in AP at HCMC:

Vi&Art 8/5/2009 K1 Visa

First blue requesting Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline

JohnCali9 8/6/2009 K1 Visa

First blue requesting Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline

MichaelAndKha 8/15/2009 K1 Visa

First blue requesting Timeline

JeromeBinh 8/20/2009 K1 visa

First blue requesting Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, and where Binh's family live in the USA

ToanTien 8/20/2009 Cr1 Visa

First blue requesting Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline

Ly Trinh 8/21/2009 CR1 Visa

First blue requesting Timeline

Huong and Phung 9/8/2009 CR1 Visa

First blue Requesting proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline

Those who are out of AP w/ results:

Ituan 8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied

Lindal24 7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED

FrednDaoHoney 1/17/2009 - 10/14/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED

[ScottThuy 140]

I am still amazed that they had you wait so long....

What can I say they were Additionally Processing us. I think it had a lot to do with the VN translator and our lack of knowledge of the process. We will never know the entire reason. Maybe they lost the file for a while.

Linda's took 91 days and that included the CO going to Thailand so his wife could have a baby.... so one never knows what could slow things down...

[Huong and Phung 0]

All these thinking about A.P makes me want to cry. It's so hard for us living here in the States with this economy and now without our S.O? Do they know the feeling of being lonely? Wow, does it sounds like a song? Did anyone watch "the Proposal" yet? It's such a good movie and it's about fraud imigration but ended up as a true love. I believe love can be found anywhere. There were people knowing each other for years and never get married and there were people that knows each other for couple of months and get married. Lucky for those who have their S.O next to them and they should treasure it. For now, those of us in A.P can just hoping for the same chance.

[Huong and Phung 0]

Jerome,

I know that it's frustrating getting into the Consulate and get the same generic answer but don't get too pushy. I know you have your way of doing it but it's best for us to present ourselves professionally. I was there talking to them and they actually takes note of what you said. Say something truthful and touching, you'll see they have feeling too. Don't get too agressive and it might turn on you.

Good luck Jerome and Binh.

[lindal24 1]

Eh, it's cool... I understand your frustration, and I'm glad that you were successful in your journey as much as I am that mine is also complete!

When I said "it's not personal" what I was referring to was that the CO doesn't know you and isn't picking on just you...it's their job to question whether petitions are allowed or denied based on the facts and evidence they have in front of them. I don't feel it to be very fair to deny someone based on initial filings as newer relationships just don't have the support that reflects their love as much a matured relationships. I would hope that if a CO felt that there was a questionable case, they would call/contact the petitioner or beneficiary to ask questions or request an interview instead of just denying flat out (as ScottThuy stated above as well...). But time and resources don't allow this, and so COs can only do so much.

[lindal24 1]

I am still amazed that they had you wait so long....

What can I say they were Additionally Processing us. I think it had a lot to do with the VN translator and our lack of knowledge of the process. We will never know the entire reason. Maybe they lost the file for a while.

As you mentioned the VN translator, I just have to bring it up too...

...my husband thought that they were "lao cao" too...in the sense that they are not the COs but rather an employee working as a translator. I brought up the conspiracy theory that they were there to translate, but often times might just transfer wrong or be telling the American CO things that they didn't say!! It happens...especially if the SO doesn't know alot of english to tell the difference!!

[lindal24 1]

Did anyone watch "the Proposal" yet? It's such a good movie and it's about fraud imigration but ended up as a true love.

I believe love can be found anywhere. There were people knowing each other for years and never get married and there were people that knows each other for couple of months and get married. Lucky for those who have their S.O next to them and they should treasure it. For now, those of us in A.P can just hoping for the same chance.

I saw that movie like 6 times!! Once w/ my husband in DaNang...I told him the story of the movie the first time I saw it because I just LOVED it and Sandra Bullock and Ryan Reynolds!! It's an awesome movie!!!

Love is found anywhere--and everywhere! Just be patient...your pink will come eventually!! If all else, there's always the option of relocating back to VN. I don't think that alot of people realize that this is also an option--Ralph and Hanh made it a reality, and they are doing great...it's just another alternative for those who feel the strain that distance put between them and their loved one(s)...HANG IN THERE!!!

[lindal24 1]

Linda's took 91 days and that included the CO going to Thailand so his wife could have a baby.... so one never knows what could slow things down...

yea...and I still think that was TMI from the consulate guy...unless he was lying to me and he was actually the CO...hahaha...

Honestly, what I felt that slowed down the case was those questions that the CO asked me when I did come in regarding my housemate and my job... That or the CO guy with the pregnant wife in Thailand just decided not to come back and my case was just sitting on his dusty, recently vacated desk...

Edited October 18, 2009 by lindal24