HCMC Interview roll call

[BinhJerome 14]

Those of us currently in AP at HCMC:

Vi&Art 8/5/2009

JohnCali9 8/6/2009 K1 Visa

MichaelAndKha 8/15/2009

JeromeBinh 8/20/2009 K1 visa

Interview date with first blue requesting proof of where my ex wife lived, Time line, and Proof of where Binh's family live in the USA

ToanTien 8/20/2009

Ly Trinh 8/21/2009 CR1 Visa

Huong and Phung 9/8/2009 CR1 Visa

Interview date with first blue requesting BONEFIDE MARRIAGE & TIMELINE

Those who are out of AP w/ results:

Ituan 8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied

Lindal24 7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED

FrednDaoHoney 1/17/2009 - 10/14/2009 - 9 months in AP - APPROVED

[lindal24 1]

VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC:

• Vi&Art _____________________8/5/2009
• JohnCali9 __________________8/6/2009
• MichaelAndKha______________8/15/2009
• JeromeBinh_________________8/20/2009

  K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, and List of Beneficiary Relatives in USA

• ToanTien___________________8/20/2009
• Ly Trinh ___________________8/21/2009
• Huong and Phung ___________9/8/2009

  CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline

VJ Members who made it out of AP & results:

• Ituan _____________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied
• Lindal24 ___________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED

  CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline

• FrednDaoHoney_____________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED

Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (2nd blue slip).

Sample AP Blue Slip:

http://www.visajourney.com/gallery/albums/...cture1_copy.jpg

[lindal24 1]

IS there still reason for two threads now? Can we get a MOD to combine the two threads??

[BinhJerome 14]

IS there still reason for two threads now? Can we get a MOD to combine the two threads??

The reason is the same as it always was. I feel that there needs to be more information and not simply just the list of those on AP. There are threads posted about who is for what kind of visa, those that got blue for what reasons, and those that got AP. I just tried to combine 3 threads onto one, and with the old thread and 18 plus pages for new readers they have to sift through 18 pages of only one part of the information. A new thread breeds new life into a good thread. We went from the model A to the Smart car. Evolution is what makes humanity great, let this thread evolve into what it can be. Eventually with all the suggestions of using wiki this thread may also become outdated as well. With the original thread, there is a bunch of great information on it that deserves to be read, and hopefully this thread will grow and be as beneficial to people as well.

[ScottThuy 140]

VJ Members currently in AP at HCMC:

• Vi&Art _____________________8/5/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline
• JohnCali9 __________________8/6/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline
• MichaelAndKha______________8/15/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline
• JeromeBinh_________________8/20/2009 K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, List of Beneficiary Relatives in US
• ToanTien___________________8/20/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline
• Ly Trinh ___________________8/21/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Timeline
• Huong and Phung ___________9/8/2009 CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline

VJ Members who made it out of AP & results:

• Ituan _____________________8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied

  K1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline

• Lindal24 ___________________7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED

  CR1 Visa - First blue RFE: Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline

• FrednDaoHoney_____________1/17/2009 - 10/15/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED

Please add yourself if you are currently in Administrative Processing "AP" (2nd blue slip).

Sample AP Blue Slip:

http://www.visajourney.com/gallery/albums/...cture1_copy.jpg

[BinhJerome 14]

Lets divide up those of us that are in AP. Please add to this post and put if you are in AP on a K1 visa or on a CR1 visa, please list your first blue and your reason for that blue along with your second blue that put you into the AP limbo. This will help those determine what they need to do, and help us figure out if we can expect results and possibly when. With the difference in case and people emailing and getting the same response that they do not go out of order it might be helpful to separate us all out. Please if you are denied, give us that reason as well. This is the current list of those I know that are in AP

Those of us currently in AP at HCMC:

Vi&Art 8/5/2009 K1 Visa

First blue requesting Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline

JohnCali9 8/6/2009 K1 Visa

First blue requesting Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline

MichaelAndKha 8/15/2009 K1 Visa

First blue requesting Timeline

JeromeBinh 8/20/2009 K1 visa

First blue requesting Ex-wife's living situation, Timeline, and where Binh's family live in the USA

ToanTien 8/20/2009 Cr1 Visa

First blue requesting Proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline

Ly Trinh 8/21/2009 CR1 Visa

First blue requesting Timeline

Huong and Phung 9/8/2009 CR1 Visa

First blue Requesting proof of Bona fide Relationship & Timeline

Those who are out of AP w/ results:

Ituan 8/10/2009 - 09/15/2009 - 36 days in AP - Denied

Lindal24 7/8/2009 - 10/7/2009 - 91 days in AP - APPROVED

FrednDaoHoney 1/17/2009 - 10/14/2009 - 271 days in AP - APPROVED

[lindal24 1]

IMO...I think it's just another thread to have to read through--esp if this thread also gets to 18 pages...

[BinhJerome 14]

IMO...I think it's just another thread to have to read through--esp if this thread also gets to 18 pages...

If it gets to 18 pages then a new thread can be made. People choose what they want to read, if they want to read this thread they can read it if not they wont read it. Half of the threads that get up to 18 pages only get read by new people and when we go to a thread that has that many pages we go tot he back first and read what is new any way. This gives people more things to read, love it or hate it it is your choice.

[WeatherEmperor 21]

Hey guys,

I looked through the list Jerome created for those that got a blue slip and I see many of those are because of the Time Line and Evidence of Bonafide relationship. When should the evidence of a bonafide relationship be submitted? During the interview or sometime before? I am assuming this bonafide evidence should include the emails, chat longs, letters, pictures, passport stamps for travel, etc. Is this correct?

<CARRICK>

[b_weeks 6]

evidence of Bona Fide relationship should be submitted at the time of INTERVIEW. Not before.

The only requirement for the submission of the I-129F is that you have met in person in the past 2 years.

[BinhJerome 14]

Hey guys,

I looked through the list Jerome created for those that got a blue slip and I see many of those are because of the Time Line and Evidence of Bona fide relationship. When should the evidence of a bonafide relationship be submitted? During the interview or sometime before? I am assuming this bonafide evidence should include the emails, chat longs, letters, pictures, passport stamps for travel, etc. Is this correct?

<CARRICK>

Carrick, I would submit some of it when you file for the K1 and make sure what you submit she has copies of. People here suggest to front load your file with lots of things, and then they also say to not put that much in it. I would submit a time line with the original K1 application, and then also submit some of the proof of a bonifide relationship along with it. Send many photos of the two of you together, a few chat logs, maybe a phone bill or two just basic things, the hard part is not getting past the service center in America, but getting past the CO in HCMC. Submit everything you have with the interview, and hope for the best. Just as I said remember to have copies of everything you submit. I am going back to the consulate Tuesday to resubmit more evidence and try to talk to a supervisor about our case. I am going to submit everything that they did not accept at her interview. They did not look at our chat logs, and our screen shots with times on them for our voice and video chats, so they will get them Tuesday this way they can not try to use the phone calling card against us. We chat more than we call if you were to only look at my phone bills it would look like we do not have a bonifide relationship because we chat and talk on yahoo every day. It is free, well not free but we both already pay for INTERNET so it is free in that sense, and even paying for INTERNET for both of us would be far cheaper than just calling her. Good luck bro, hope you get everything worked out with your trip and that you do not go through what most of us in AP are going through now.

Jerome and Binh

[b_weeks 6]

Frontloading the initial petition isn't so much for providing evidence, as it is for covering your bases where RED FLAGS are concerned. But you can do what you feel best.

RED FLAGS:

1. Introduced by family

2. 1 trip to Vietnam

3. Previous marriage

4. Children or pregnancy

5. Beneficiary family in the US

6. Short amount of time in relationship.

7. Lack of communication (Petitioner speaks english, beneficiary speaks little english

8. Previous K1/K3/IR-1/Cr-1 petition

etc....

Edited October 17, 2009 by b_weeks

[b_weeks 6]

Hey guys,

I looked through the list Jerome created for those that got a blue slip and I see many of those are because of the Time Line and Evidence of Bona fide relationship. When should the evidence of a bonafide relationship be submitted? During the interview or sometime before? I am assuming this bonafide evidence should include the emails, chat longs, letters, pictures, passport stamps for travel, etc. Is this correct?

<CARRICK>

Carrick, I would submit some of it when you file for the K1 and make sure what you submit she has copies of. People here suggest to front load your file with lots of things, and then they also say to not put that much in it. I would submit a time line with the original K1 application, and then also submit some of the proof of a bonifide relationship along with it. Send many photos of the two of you together, a few chat logs, maybe a phone bill or two just basic things, the hard part is not getting past the service center in America, but getting past the CO in HCMC. Submit everything you have with the interview, and hope for the best. Just as I said remember to have copies of everything you submit. I am going back to the consulate Tuesday to resubmit more evidence and try to talk to a supervisor about our case. I am going to submit everything that they did not accept at her interview. They did not look at our chat logs, and our screen shots with times on them for our voice and video chats, so they will get them Tuesday this way they can not try to use the phone calling card against us. We chat more than we call if you were to only look at my phone bills it would look like we do not have a bonifide relationship because we chat and talk on yahoo every day. It is free, well not free but we both already pay for INTERNET so it is free in that sense, and even paying for INTERNET for both of us would be far cheaper than just calling her. Good luck bro, hope you get everything worked out with your trip and that you do not go through what most of us in AP are going through now.

Jerome and Binh

We were in about the same boat. Few actual letters between us. Few phone calls. Everything done with Yahoo Messanger and Webcam. Luckily I saved our chat logs (submitted over 5000 pages of chat logs at the interview (I killed a bunch of trees). Fiance was pregnant and showing at the time of the interview, I had 1 trip to vietnam before the interview although I made another trip for the interview, and lastly we were introduced by her sister who is in america married to an american also via K1.

So anything is possible. It is all about how you present your case. We covered all our red flags in our cover letter for the I-129F petition.

[ScottThuy 140]

****IMPORTANT NOTE: Processing wait time DOES NOT include the time required for administrative processing. These procedures require additional time. Most administrative processing is resolved within 60 days of application. When administrative processing is required, the timing will vary based on individual circumstances of each case. Therefore, before making inquiries about status of administrative processing, applicants or their representatives will need to wait at least 90 days from the date of interview or submission of supplemental documents, whichever is later. Processing wait time also does not include the time required to return the passport to applicants, by either courier services or the local mail system.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/wait/tem...p;x=72&y=13

Linda's was 91 days... The site says wait 90 days before you inquire about the status of the case in AP.... one must wonder if they have a new goal of 90 days or less... there have been others in for a long time.. Fred, Kevin... and others waited twice as long as Linda or longer to get out of AP....

[toantien 0]

****IMPORTANT NOTE: Processing wait time DOES NOT include the time required for administrative processing. These procedures require additional time. Most administrative processing is resolved within 60 days of application. When administrative processing is required, the timing will vary based on individual circumstances of each case. Therefore, before making inquiries about status of administrative processing, applicants or their representatives will need to wait at least 90 days from the date of interview or submission of supplemental documents, whichever is later. Processing wait time also does not include the time required to return the passport to applicants, by either courier services or the local mail system.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/wait/tem...p;x=72&y=13

Linda's was 91 days... The site says wait 90 days before you inquire about the status of the case in AP.... one must wonder if they have a new goal of 90 days or less... there have been others in for a long time.. Fred, Kevin... and others waited twice as long as Linda or longer to get out of AP....

"AT LEAST 90 days?......................." ouch