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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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Maybe I'm missing something here, because it is a daunting task to decipher the vast amount of info on this site...

But it appears to me that, in general, the CR-1/K-3 process takes close to a year. Whereas, in the not-so-recent past (i.e. pre-IMBRA), the K-1's were taking 4-6 months in general.

Please don't get me wrong. I'm glad for everyone who is re-uniting with their soulmates... and I pray that we all can ASAP.

Now I suspect someone is going to tell me there are more steps involved with CR-1/K-3 than K-1... but any way you slice it, it just seems that it should be faster and easier to bring in a spouse rather than a fiancee... not vice versa...

Are married people being penalized by this process? :unsure:

USCIS (CR-1)

06/30/2006 Mailed I-130 USPS Overnight Mail to Nebraska (NSC)

07/03/2006 Express Mail signed for at NSC

07/08/2006 Found out on VJ that my case is transferred to California (CSC)

07/21/2006 NOA1

11/02/2006 NOA2

NVC

11/13/2006 NVC Case # Assigned

11/20/2006 DS-3032 and AOS Fee Bill generated

11/21/2006 Emailed Choice of Agent (from wife/non-USC) in lieu of DS-3032

11/21/2006 Sent AOS Fee Bill Payment via USPS Overnight Mail

11/30/2006 NVC Processed AOS Fee Bill Payment (still no record of receiving Choice of Agent Email)

12/04/2006 Sent DS-3032 Choice of Agent USPS Overnight

12/11/2006 Received I-864 Affidavit of Support (AOS) in mail

12/11/2006 Sent I-864 AOS to NVC via USPS Overnight

12/11/2006 Immigrant Visa (IV) Fee Bill Generated

12/18/2006 Received IV Fee Bill in the mail

12/18/2006 Sent IV Fee Bill payment to NVC via USPS Overnight

01/03/2007 Sent DS-230 USPS Overnight

01/08/2007 NVC processed DS-230

01/12/2007 Received DS-230 (Part 1) and the list of "Documents You Need to Obtain" for Embassy Interview in mail

02/06/2007 Case Complete @ NVC

02/13/2007 Case sent to Embassy

Embassy

03/15/2007 Received Interview Instructions (aka Packet 4)

04/03/2007 Lab Tests

04/04/2007 Medical Exam

04/10/2007 Interview (Conditional Approval)

04/12/2007 Visa Approved!

04/18/2007 Visa in Hand, Gracias a Dios !!!

04/19/2007 Arrival in USA !!! (POE = Atlanta)

05/29/2007 Received Green Card in mail

www.MarriageBuilders.com

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Algeria
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Even tho i am the k-1 process i hav eto say i agree with you because it should be easier for people who are already married... but, it is because of the type of visa. the k-1 is a non- immigrant visa. the other is an immigrant visa. the whole thing is stupid if you ask me.

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Maybe I'm missing something here, because it is a daunting task to decipher the vast amount of info on this site...

But it appears to me that, in general, the CR-1/K-3 process takes close to a year. Whereas, in the not-so-recent past (i.e. pre-IMBRA), the K-1's were taking 4-6 months in general.

Please don't get me wrong. I'm glad for everyone who is re-uniting with their soulmates... and I pray that we all can ASAP.

Now I suspect someone is going to tell me there are more steps involved with CR-1/K-3 than K-1... but any way you slice it, it just seems that it should be faster and easier to bring in a spouse rather than a fiancee... not vice versa...

Are married people being penalized by this process? :unsure:

There are advantages/disadvantages with each. You had a choice. You were married in January. If speed was the most important to you, why did you choose to marry first? This topic comes up often and there was usually a choice. Are you thinking you made a mistake?

BTW, I have seen very few K1s completed in 3 - 4 months.

05/16/2005 I-129F Sent

05/28/2005 I-129F NOA1

06/21/2005 I-129F NOA2

07/18/2005 Consulate Received package from NVC

11/09/2005 Medical

11/16/2005 Interview APPROVED

12/05/2005 Visa received

12/07/2005 POE Minneapolis

12/17/2005 Wedding

12/20/2005 Applied for SSN

01/14/2005 SSN received in the mail

02/03/2006 AOS sent (Did not apply for EAD or AP)

02/09/2006 NOA

02/16/2006 Case status Online

05/01/2006 Biometrics Appt.

07/12/2006 AOS Interview APPROVED

07/24/2006 GC arrived

05/02/2007 Driver's License - Passed Road Test!

05/27/2008 Lifting of Conditions sent (TSC > VSC)

06/03/2008 Check Cleared

07/08/2008 INFOPASS (I-551 stamp)

07/08/2008 Driver's License renewed

04/20/2009 Lifting of Conditions approved

04/28/2009 Card received in the mail

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Maybe I'm missing something here, because it is a daunting task to decipher the vast amount of info on this site...

But it appears to me that, in general, the CR-1/K-3 process takes close to a year. Whereas, in the not-so-recent past (i.e. pre-IMBRA), the K-1's were taking 4-6 months in general.

Please don't get me wrong. I'm glad for everyone who is re-uniting with their soulmates... and I pray that we all can ASAP.

Now I suspect someone is going to tell me there are more steps involved with CR-1/K-3 than K-1... but any way you slice it, it just seems that it should be faster and easier to bring in a spouse rather than a fiancee... not vice versa...

Are married people being penalized by this process? :unsure:

It is two different processes. K visas are nonimmigrant, whereas the IR-1/CR-1 are immigrant visas. Immigrant visas require much more steps before the interview, but once the immigrant visas are issued, you don't need to do any adjustment of status. On the other hand, one has to adjust the status even after the K visa is issued. I wish they can speed up the CR-1/IR-1 process, but I am not sure, how they can do it.

I-130 Timeline with USCIS:

It took 92 days for I-130 to get approved from the filing date

NVC Process of I-130:

It took 78 days to complete the NVC process

Interview Process at The U.S. Embassy

Interview took 223 days from the I-130 filing date. Immigrant Visa was issued right after the interview

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: England
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You could look on the bright side, if CR-1 were quicker everyone would be doing it, and it wouldn't be quick anymore. :P

Edited to say: Oops there is no bright side.

Edited by Tim and Bethanie

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Algeria
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A K-1 comes in on a non-immigrant visa.. and has to adjust status from that visa... imagine.. there is still a possibility that they could change their mind and return home, or be removed...

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Colombia
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You had a choice... If speed was the most important to you, why did you choose to marry first? ... Are you thinking you made a mistake?

I made a choice to be married to the woman of my dreams, certainly no mistake there.

However, that does not excuse the fact that the immigration process penalizes me for getting married.

You could look on the bright side, if CR-1 were quicker everyone would be doing it, and it wouldn't be quick anymore. :P

Edited to say: Oops there is no bright side.

Hilarious! Thanks for the laugh! :lol:

USCIS (CR-1)

06/30/2006 Mailed I-130 USPS Overnight Mail to Nebraska (NSC)

07/03/2006 Express Mail signed for at NSC

07/08/2006 Found out on VJ that my case is transferred to California (CSC)

07/21/2006 NOA1

11/02/2006 NOA2

NVC

11/13/2006 NVC Case # Assigned

11/20/2006 DS-3032 and AOS Fee Bill generated

11/21/2006 Emailed Choice of Agent (from wife/non-USC) in lieu of DS-3032

11/21/2006 Sent AOS Fee Bill Payment via USPS Overnight Mail

11/30/2006 NVC Processed AOS Fee Bill Payment (still no record of receiving Choice of Agent Email)

12/04/2006 Sent DS-3032 Choice of Agent USPS Overnight

12/11/2006 Received I-864 Affidavit of Support (AOS) in mail

12/11/2006 Sent I-864 AOS to NVC via USPS Overnight

12/11/2006 Immigrant Visa (IV) Fee Bill Generated

12/18/2006 Received IV Fee Bill in the mail

12/18/2006 Sent IV Fee Bill payment to NVC via USPS Overnight

01/03/2007 Sent DS-230 USPS Overnight

01/08/2007 NVC processed DS-230

01/12/2007 Received DS-230 (Part 1) and the list of "Documents You Need to Obtain" for Embassy Interview in mail

02/06/2007 Case Complete @ NVC

02/13/2007 Case sent to Embassy

Embassy

03/15/2007 Received Interview Instructions (aka Packet 4)

04/03/2007 Lab Tests

04/04/2007 Medical Exam

04/10/2007 Interview (Conditional Approval)

04/12/2007 Visa Approved!

04/18/2007 Visa in Hand, Gracias a Dios !!!

04/19/2007 Arrival in USA !!! (POE = Atlanta)

05/29/2007 Received Green Card in mail

www.MarriageBuilders.com

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In addition to the implementation of the K-3 visa, I would say they have made great progress forward in enabling married couples to be reunited sooner as it wasnt too long ago that the CR-1 visa was at one point taking 2-3 years to obtain. There are many cases here on VJ where CR-1's have been obtained faster then the average time for K visas. As far as the CR-1 immigrant visa goes, why should it be easier to gain then a K-1 non-immigrant. You are asking to be granted immigrant status on entry rather then go through the rigorous process of adjusting status from a K-1 visa. You have to go through it some time, its just a matter of when and frankly, whilst it is more paperwork and longer time wise, it is still in general an easier process then adjusting status in the US. If married, it comes down to choice as to whether you wish to hold out for the CR-1 or go for the K-3. If you check the timelines and read earlier posts you will also find the many cases of CR-1's granted in 6-8 months eg

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You could look on the bright side, if CR-1 were quicker everyone would be doing it, and it wouldn't be quick anymore. :P

Edited to say: Oops there is no bright side.

If getting married first would have been quicker, we would have married right away. That's what we wanted to do, but made our choices based on the realities of the situation.

05/16/2005 I-129F Sent

05/28/2005 I-129F NOA1

06/21/2005 I-129F NOA2

07/18/2005 Consulate Received package from NVC

11/09/2005 Medical

11/16/2005 Interview APPROVED

12/05/2005 Visa received

12/07/2005 POE Minneapolis

12/17/2005 Wedding

12/20/2005 Applied for SSN

01/14/2005 SSN received in the mail

02/03/2006 AOS sent (Did not apply for EAD or AP)

02/09/2006 NOA

02/16/2006 Case status Online

05/01/2006 Biometrics Appt.

07/12/2006 AOS Interview APPROVED

07/24/2006 GC arrived

05/02/2007 Driver's License - Passed Road Test!

05/27/2008 Lifting of Conditions sent (TSC > VSC)

06/03/2008 Check Cleared

07/08/2008 INFOPASS (I-551 stamp)

07/08/2008 Driver's License renewed

04/20/2009 Lifting of Conditions approved

04/28/2009 Card received in the mail

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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Canada
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Just a personal observation. If you look for instances of "unfair treatment," you'll find them and become indignant. If you look for "people being penalized," you'll find them and become outraged.

But if you remember that no one has a right to a visa, you'll stop comparing engaged couples with married couples and become calm. It's a moot point ... a non issue. The time it takes YOU is based on many factors (and surprises like IMBRA), and everyone here wishes you all the best.

I-130 sent Mar 30, 06

approved Aug 15, 06

I-129f sent April 24, 06

approved July 27, 06

Montreal interview Jan 18, 07

POE Toronto Jan 28, 07

EAD sent Jan. 30, 07

transferred to Vermont Feb 12

biometrics Feb 22

approved March 13

card returned undeliverable! March 27

called after 6 weeks to have EAD re-sent

AOS sent Jan. 30, 07

biometrics Feb 22

RFE for complete medical (!) Feb 23

Called Senator from NJ - never returned call

Infopass March 19 (no help)

Replied to RFE with duplicate medical March 19

Sent additional evidence (I-693A) March 26

NBC received supplement March 30

touched April 4

Interview July 16

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: England
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It all comes down to personal choices. For us it was simple choosing the CR-1. With six children between us we could not afford for him not to be employed for an indefinete amount of time. On top of this not having AP for upwards of a year, he would not be able to travel back to see his children if something were to happen to them. Sure we would have loved to have been together faster, but the CR-1 was just a much better option for us. Financially it is still a difficult journey, but likely much easier than trying to live off of one income.

Don't really feel I am being penalized, because we chose this route. What does bother me is seeing someone going through the same visa, and there is no rhyme or reason to when one gets an interview. Have seen other London petitioners who's case left NVC, a week or two following ours with interview dates two weeks prior to ours. Not jealous or angry with these folks, but rather confused as to how things are handled within the system itself. No method to the madness. :whistle: Most places fill in the next open appointment slot, where as I feel we were in some form of a lottery to get our appointment. Penalized for being married, nah, the whole system makes no sense sometimes and no one really has any advantages in this game.

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Just a personal observation. If you look for instances of "unfair treatment," you'll find them and become indignant. If you look for "people being penalized," you'll find them and become outraged.

But if you remember that no one has a right to a visa, you'll stop comparing engaged couples with married couples and become calm. It's a moot point ... a non issue. The time it takes YOU is based on many factors (and surprises like IMBRA), and everyone here wishes you all the best.

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The CR-1 visa is an immigrant visa. I'd rather go through the CR-1 process rather than the K-1 visa.

The whole idea of AOS irritates me.

DCF (Germany)

April 7, 2006 - Married

April 15, 2006 - I-130 sent to Frankfurt Consulate

April 22, 2006 - I-130 returned to us (personal checks not acceptable)

April 24, 2006 - I-130 resubmitted with Credit Card Payment Form

June 14, 2006 - I-130 Approved

June 15, 2006 - Packet 3 Received

June 16, 2006 - OF-169 & Passport (Biographical Page Only) faxed to the Consulate

June 17, 2006 - DS 230 Part 1 & OF-169 mailed to the Consulate

June 26, 2006 - Packet 4 Received

June 27, 2006 - Medical Examination in Berlin

July 21, 2006 - Interview at Frankfurt Consulate

July 21, 2006 - Visa Approved!

August 22, 2006 - America!

July 26, 2008 - I-751 sent to VSC

August 1, 2008 - Check cashed

August 1, 2008 - NOA-1 received

September 9, 2008 - Biometics Appointment

March 12, 2009 - Transfer from VSC to CSC?

March 16, 2009 - Approved (10-year green card should be mailed within 60 days)

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