Tobacco-rich NC bans smoking in bars, restaurants

[Nagishkaw 510]

DURHAM, N.C. – In dozens of states, Gary Richards wouldn't have been able to light up a Marlboro before tucking into his meat-lover's pizza, as he did at Satisfaction Restaurant & Bar this week. But in North Carolina, the nation's leading tobacco producer, limits on indoor smoking have lagged behind those in much of the country.

That changes Saturday, when smoking in restaurants and bars is banned in the state that is home to two major tobacco companies and where the golden leaf helped build Duke and Wake Forest universities.

"There's smokers and there's nonsmokers. We've gotten along in the past," Richards, 52, said this week during a pre-meal smoke at the restaurant inside a former tobacco warehouse. "Why can't I come in here and have my beer and a couple of slices of pizza and a cigarette?"

The dangers of secondhand smoke to employee health and complaints from patrons about the smell finally won out when the Legislature approved the ban in 2009 after years of failures.

"This law doesn't tell anybody they shouldn't smoke," said state Rep. Hugh Holliman, a lung cancer survivor whose sister died of lung cancer. He led the charge for the legislation. "It's saying nonsmokers should have the same right to breathe clean air."

North Carolina is a relative latecomer to tobacco prohibitions in public places. North Carolina is at least the 29th state to ban smoking in restaurants and 24th for bars, according to the American Lung Association.

The new prohibitions represent a dramatic turn for a state that produces nearly half of the nation's tobacco.

The headquarters for R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co. and Lorillard Inc. remain in North Carolina, where colonists began growing tobacco in the 1600s. The leaf became the top cash crop by far for eastern North Carolina farmers.

But the golden leaf's role has changed dramatically as the state shifted from a predominantly agricultural economy to one led by manufacturing, and most recently by services and technology.

In 1978, tobacco accounted for 34 percent of all farm income in North Carolina, or $1.1 billion. Thirty years later tobacco production fell to $687 million, or only 7 percent of farm income, according to federal agricultural data. The amount of tobacco grown also fell during the same period from about 850 million pounds to 390 million pounds.

Still, about 21 percent of the state's adult population smoked in 2008, compared to 18 percent nationwide, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Other traditional tobacco-growing states have few, if any, statewide restrictions on smoking in public places and work sites. Virginia passed a statewide ban that took effect Dec. 1 but restaurants and bars can get around it if they have separate ventilation systems for smoking and nonsmoking sections.

"Nationally, it's a huge step," said Thomas Carr, the lung association's national policy manager. "It just proves that if North Carolina can do it, then any state can prohibit smoking in bars and restaurants."

The state has mailed packets to 24,000 restaurants and bars, including "no smoking" signs they must post. The changes begin Jan. 2 so they won't interfere with New Year's celebrations. Nonprofit private clubs and most cigar bars are exempt.

Smokers who refuse to snuff out and scofflaw owners and managers face fines.

Restaurant owners are generally pleased with the ban, particularly because it includes bars, according to Paul Stone with the North Carolina Restaurant and Lodging Association. Many bars would have been exempt under previous legislation that failed.

"It's a level playing field across the state," said Mike Kelly, a nonsmoker who owns Kelly's Restaurant in the beach town of Nags Head. "I don't think it will affect our business hardly at all."

Many restaurants had already prohibited smoking before the ban. Some plan to invest in outdoor patios where smokers can still light up legally.

Still, some smokers argue customers could choose to avoid a bar if the smoke bothers them.

"I'm always concerned when you start leaning on folks' rights and you couch it in the public good," said Sam Johnson, 48, of Durham, as he smoked a Salem at the Satisfaction bar in Durham.

At a nearby table, nonsmokers such as Caroline Guthrie of Durham say they have just as much right to frequent bars without putting their health — or wardrobe — at risk.

"When people smoke around you, you take it home with you," said Guthrie, a sixth-grade science teacher.

The haze of cigarette smoke has for years covered Satisfaction on weekend nights as families who come for pizza and subs give way to the late-night bar crowd. But starting Saturday, tobacco's presence will be reduced to the name "Brightleaf Square," on signs for the complex of one-time tobacco warehouses that includes the restaurant.

"Personally," said Satisfaction owner Staton Ellis, "I'm not going to miss walking through the smoke."

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[slim 1,525]

We've got that BS here and it's the reason I prefer to spend my entertainment dollar across the river in Kentucky.

I'm thinking one of these days they're going to ban bar patrons from using bad words and having sex with fat girls. What's the world coming to?

[NickD 202]

Could have posted a rather long article on how bored state legislators are now, can't do anything about the major economic crisis's facing the nation so passing all kinds of insignificant laws now that further invade our freedoms.

Would think if I crashed into a tree without wearing a seat belt and got racked up, my insurance company would tell me to go to hell. In no way is the state liable for me racking myself up, yet as of last month, a cop can stop me and fine me a couple of hundred bucks for not wearing a belt. Or really nail me to the wall if he sees me holding a cell phone to my ear.

Our state passed that no smoking ban last summer, is kind of fun to drive around and see a bunch of people standing outside in sub zero weather with a cigarette in their right hand and a drink in their left. But that cigarette isn't killing thousands of people, it's that drink, but they won't do anything about that. Not even tax it to pay for the new drunken driving laws. What can you say about our leadership? Find it difficult to describe them without using dirty words.

[slim 1,525]

What can you say about our leadership? Find it difficult to describe them without using dirty words.

Si se puede! Si se puede! Si se puede!

Of course, I'll admit, that's kind of unfair. Our legistators were f'king off way before this new batch.

[Nagishkaw 510]

Could have posted a rather long article on how bored state legislators are now, can't do anything about the major economic crisis's facing the nation so passing all kinds of insignificant laws now that further invade our freedoms.

Would think if I crashed into a tree without wearing a seat belt and got racked up, my insurance company would tell me to go to hell. In no way is the state liable for me racking myself up, yet as of last month, a cop can stop me and fine me a couple of hundred bucks for not wearing a belt. Or really nail me to the wall if he sees me holding a cell phone to my ear.

Our state passed that no smoking ban last summer, is kind of fun to drive around and see a bunch of people standing outside in sub zero weather with a cigarette in their right hand and a drink in their left. But that cigarette isn't killing thousands of people, it's that drink, but they won't do anything about that. Not even tax it to pay for the new drunken driving laws. What can you say about our leadership? Find it difficult to describe them without using dirty words.

:thumbs:

[Jenn! 918]

The haze of cigarette smoke has for years covered Satisfaction on weekend nights as families who come for pizza and subs give way to the late-night bar crowd.

Many fond memories of smoking at Satisfaction. For some reason I thought that NC might be the last safe haven for smokers.

[NickD 202]

Many fond memories of smoking at Satisfaction. For some reason I thought that NC might be the last safe haven for smokers.

Cigarette smoke contains carbon dioxide. Very dangerous to our environment.

[Krikit 1,164]

I remember being shocked to be asked "Smoking or non-smoking?" when we entered restaurants in NC and PA. I still chuckle when I see the cigarettes behind the cashier at the pharmacy.