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Yeah. The one guy who tried to attack the Dane. He had an axe and knife. All terrorists are savages. Get it you dolt?

Can you comprehend the simplest concepts or are you that much of a ###### idiot?

Either you have a bad memory, or you're a liar.

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What reality am I ignoring? Do you actually read these threads?

That most terrorists are Muslims but most Muslims are not terrorists. You can't seen to connect the two.

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Either you have a bad memory, or you're a liar.

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Show me a single quote where I said all Muslims are terrorists. A single one!! You can't!!!

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Fine with me. I was just getting sick of passive aggressively being called stupid.

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Show me a single quote where I said all Muslims are terrorists. A single one!! You can't!!!

I didn't say you did.

I do believe that you consistently use a politically correct disclaimer to bookend and try to soften what are, quite obviously, bigoted opinions about muslims and Islam.

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You obviously don't even know what political correctness means.

Even an inbred island dweller knows that all Muslims are not terrorists.

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I didn't say you did.

I do believe that you consistently use a politically correct disclaimer to bookend and try to soften what are, quite obviously, bigoted opinions about muslims and Islam.

As the responses from the local VJ Muslims attest, Islam is not to be questioned, nor are the ongoing atrocities committed in the name of Islam, from the incident in this OP, to the Muslim with the explosive underwear trying to blow up 300 fellow travelers on an airplane, to the fatwa's issued on Mr. Rushdie and others at the behest of certain Islamic leaders to be in any way construed as having any type of reflection upon the Islamic faith. And no Muslim should ever feel they should need to choose between betraying a fellow believer and saving innocent lives.

At least that is what I have gathered from this thread.

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It isn't that things aren't to be questioned - its that you need to know what you're talking about before you go off half-cocked.

Actually that is quite a pompous statement.

I am not without some knowledge, but apparently none which fits the hope filled but misguided notion that there could be something correct in pointing out Islam has a massive public relations problem with getting people to buy into it as being a peaceful religion. Obviously the definition of a true believer in any religion is that it is accepted faith which is beyond observable fact, and as often as not, contradicts provable fact, thus we get to true faith.

The fact that, going back to the OP, someone would attempt to murder a man for a religious fatwa should be the focus of anyone who is concerned about Islam being seen as peaceful. But I got a snoot full of 'you don't know what your talking about' from the very people I would have expected to realize the truth of that statement. And you popping in with one and two liners. Pithy!

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  • April 2004 met online
  • July 16, 2006 Met in person on her birthday in United Arab Emirates
  • August 4, 2006 sent certified mail I-129F packet Neb SC
  • August 9, 2006 NOA1
  • August 21, 2006 received NOA1 in mail
  • October 4, 5, 7, 13 & 17 2006 Touches! 50 day address change... Yes Judith is beautiful, quit staring at her passport photo and approve us!!! Shaming works! LOL
  • October 13, 2006 NOA2! November 2, 2006 NOA2? Huh? NVC already processed and sent us on to Abu Dhabi Consulate!
  • February 12, 2007 Abu Dhabi Interview SUCCESS!!! February 14 Visa in hand!
  • March 6, 2007 she is here!
  • MARCH 14, 2007 WE ARE MARRIED!!!
  • May 5, 2007 Sent AOS/EAD packet
  • May 11, 2007 NOA1 AOS/EAD
  • June 7, 2007 Biometrics appointment
  • June 8, 2007 first post biometrics touch, June 11, next touch...
  • August 1, 2007 AOS Interview! APPROVED!! EAD APPROVED TOO...
  • August 6, 2007 EAD card and Welcome Letter received!
  • August 13, 2007 GREEN CARD received!!! 375 days since mailing the I-129F!

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Actually that is quite a pompous statement.

I am not without some knowledge, but apparently none which fits the hope filled but misguided notion that there could be something correct in pointing out Islam has a massive public relations problem with getting people to buy into it as being a peaceful religion. Obviously the definition of a true believer in any religion is that it is accepted faith which is beyond observable fact, and as often as not, contradicts provable fact, thus we get to true faith.

The fact that, going back to the OP, someone would attempt to murder a man for a religious fatwa should be the focus of anyone who is concerned about Islam being seen as peaceful. But I got a snoot full of 'you don't know what your talking about' from the very people I would have expected to realize the truth of that statement. And you popping in with one and two liners. Pithy!

I think its pretty pompous to draw random quotes from scripture and indulge in armchair theology via right-wing blog sites.

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I think its pretty pompous to draw random quotes from scripture and indulge in armchair theology via right-wing blog sites.

Given the size of the Quaran, even the faithful did not include it all in their responses. I did get some peaceful verses as requested though, of course they were from the early parts of the book.

Armchair theology? I think not... Not quite sure what your interest is in denying terrorists give Islam a bad name. That is not theological, it is a topical issue.

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  • April 2004 met online
  • July 16, 2006 Met in person on her birthday in United Arab Emirates
  • August 4, 2006 sent certified mail I-129F packet Neb SC
  • August 9, 2006 NOA1
  • August 21, 2006 received NOA1 in mail
  • October 4, 5, 7, 13 & 17 2006 Touches! 50 day address change... Yes Judith is beautiful, quit staring at her passport photo and approve us!!! Shaming works! LOL
  • October 13, 2006 NOA2! November 2, 2006 NOA2? Huh? NVC already processed and sent us on to Abu Dhabi Consulate!
  • February 12, 2007 Abu Dhabi Interview SUCCESS!!! February 14 Visa in hand!
  • March 6, 2007 she is here!
  • MARCH 14, 2007 WE ARE MARRIED!!!
  • May 5, 2007 Sent AOS/EAD packet
  • May 11, 2007 NOA1 AOS/EAD
  • June 7, 2007 Biometrics appointment
  • June 8, 2007 first post biometrics touch, June 11, next touch...
  • August 1, 2007 AOS Interview! APPROVED!! EAD APPROVED TOO...
  • August 6, 2007 EAD card and Welcome Letter received!
  • August 13, 2007 GREEN CARD received!!! 375 days since mailing the I-129F!

    Remove Conditions:

  • May 1, 2009 first day to file
  • May 9, 2009 mailed I-751 to USCIS CS
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Personally, I don't think its reasonable to collectively blame the worlds muslim population for the actions of extremists. Its not explicit, to be true, but there does seem to be a persistent assumption that muslims are somehow obligated to defend and justify themselves merely by virtue of being muslim.

There is a dialog to be had on the subject of extremism, but noone really seems interested in that. Its been said many many many times that Islamic extremism has its roots in cultural and political issues, rather than something in the theology that specifically encourages extremist violence.

Yet for all that, no-one seems interested in that side of things - and so we keep getting this nudge-nudge-wink-wink stuff about "missing outrage" and dubious attempts to semantically deconstruct the Koran.

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