I need gimygirl's aggression

[CanGal 1]

Situations like that are so hard to decipher. I don't know what I would have done, I too probably would have not said anything but maybe thought that I didn't think it was acceptable in my mind. I am not sure if it would be my place or whatsoever. It is surprising though what goes on around people and still nobody will say anything. I've seen alot worse and people just stand around .... this ain't close and doesn't involve children but one time I was out with friends and we were walking to our car in a parking lot and found two girls beating the ####### out of eachother. It was actually a really big girl and a small one and the big one ripped the girls skirt off and underwear and was hitting her head into the pavement. There was at least 30-35 people standing around, not close but standing around knowing what was going on and nobody said a thing. My friend and I had to run into a bar close by and get a few bouncers out to come and do something. There has been a time too when I've pulled up to a stop in an intersection and the car beside me had a little maybe 5 year old boy and his mom was cussing his head off. What do you say? Do you just ignore something like that. I did but it kills me inside to have too. *Shrug*

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

Heh, you're probably the only person in visajourney history to call me a "wonderful sensitive person".

alert the media! stop the presses!

[KarenCee 3]

Heh, you're probably the only person in visajourney history to call me a "wonderful sensitive person".

alert the media! stop the presses!

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

now that i've worked my way thru all of the responses, i don't know why the mother was so insistent that the child not fall asleep. i do think she could have been much more gentle.

had i seen such i'd have told her such, as who knows what goes on when no one is around eh?

[Tim and Bethanie 1]

No one said anything about anyone having "power" as you've so eloquently written here. However, I do think that manhandling a child is just a bit too much. As small as some children are, it is so easy to bruise or hurt them. I have been teaching for 12 years now. I've seen a lot. I've worked with small children for most of that 12 years...10 of those years to be precise. I'm not saying I am a professional when it comes to making a decision on what is and is not termed abuse. I am saying that I've seen small children bruised, finger marks on their arms, slap marks on tiny legs, and it tore at my heart. I am required by law, however, to report such things to the administration and they report it to Child Services. I can only hope something was done to prevent it from happening again.

I feel this is part of the problem rather than a solution. My mother, and both sets of grandparents disciplined all of us children (aunts, uncles around my age), with nice good swats to the backsides, or legs. I had plenty of welps left over from a nice fresh branch cut off the tree closest to the house. Were they abusive? Hell no, we needed it and there is not one incident I can look back on and claim any of these people were child abusers!

My generation grows up to have children, and are to afraid to discipline our children in a manner that would get the point across, because if you smack your child on the butt and leave a red mark Mrs Smith is going to report you as an abusive parent! Mind you though Mrs Smith is probably the same old hag that used to throw a chalk board eraser at my head when I was in school, or take a huge wooden paddle and burn your butt up. I can count on my ten fingers how many times my three boys have been physically punished, because frankly I am to afraid to do it. I can however tell you it gets the point across, much better than "johnny you can't do this because bla bla bla". Now having a 17 year old down to a 12 year old, I wish I could turn back time and not be their buddy but a parent who had disciplined them in a manner that they would not have forgotten.

Next time you run into some smart alec 16 year old on your shopping outting, ask him/her if they were spanked as a child. Likely not, mommy probably learned parenting from a book.

now that i've worked my way thru all of the responses, i don't know why the mother was so insistent that the child not fall asleep. i do think she could have been much more gentle.

had i seen such i'd have told her such, as who knows what goes on when no one is around eh?

Maybe what goes on is the kid screams all through the night keeping mom up, then wants to take a siesta in the middle of the day.

[Sister Fracas 5]

I can however tell you it gets the point across, much better than "johnny you can't do this because bla bla bla". Now having a 17 year old down to a 12 year old, I wish I could turn back time and not be their buddy but a parent who had disciplined them in a manner that they would not have forgotten.

Next time you run into some smart alec 16 year old on your shopping outting, ask him/her if they were spanked as a child. Likely not, mommy probably learned parenting from a book.

Well, like I've been told before when debating the to-spank or not-to-spank issue, different things work for different parents... I needed absolutely no hitting to know what was inappropriate...just a look or a few words told me...ruh roh! I'm in trouble!! And no, my mum didn't learn her parenting from a book.

So just because someone wasn't spanked as a child, doesn't mean they turn out to be the smart ####### kids and adults...

[ceriserose 1]

I can however tell you it gets the point across, much better than "johnny you can't do this because bla bla bla". Now having a 17 year old down to a 12 year old, I wish I could turn back time and not be their buddy but a parent who had disciplined them in a manner that they would not have forgotten.

Next time you run into some smart alec 16 year old on your shopping outting, ask him/her if they were spanked as a child. Likely not, mommy probably learned parenting from a book.

Well, like I've been told before when debating the to-spank or not-to-spank issue, different things work for different parents... I needed absolutely no hitting to know what was inappropriate...just a look or a few words told me...ruh roh! I'm in trouble!! And no, my mum didn't learn her parenting from a book.

So just because someone wasn't spanked as a child, doesn't mean they turn out to be the smart ####### kids and adults...

And I was spanked on very rare occasions as a child and I'm a complete smart #######.

[Fuzzness 2]

I was never spanked or hit and I didn't turn out to be some bad person. I learned discipline and how to respect other people (who are deserving of respect).

so much for that theory

[Nearly Done 8]

Poor kid, it is almost imposibile to wake a sleepy child. There for the mum must of yanked her pretty hard.

Personally and through experience I would of tried to diffuse the mother's temper by telling her how beautiful her little girl's were and that she must be washed out. I can understand that maybe she did not want the child to spoil her sleep pattern its no fun being awake all night with your kids and also not healthy for the child if maybe they have school the next day. If the mum had told me to mind my own business then I would probably give her a mouthful, cos I am not afraid to do that. Now having said that I do NOT judge as easily now. and in some cases it is not anyones business to butt in!!!

We have a 20 year old who is 6ft 3 and has the mental age of an 8 year old. We have had many shopping trips when she has carried on awfull and Rosie(widge) can even vouch for this at Walmart. She carried on really bad oneday and was told cos she had been naughty that she was NOT allowed to have gum. She tried to steal it from Walmart and was told by me to go and sit on the bench while I cashed out, Dad was in the bathroom. Well she decided it was time to throw a tantrum!!!! She starting cursing and screaming and I swear the whole place fell silent, people watching and whispering. At this point dad walks back and pulls her by her arm to the car and yes quite harshly!!! Now a lady who had not seen or heard the carry on in the store appraoched us and asked John why he had hold of her arm and she was crying now(with temper I may add). Obviously we did not want to stand and explain to a total stranger what had happened, otherwise we would be doing this almost everytime we went shopping. So yes I did tell the lady to mind her own business!!!

John had to get Tracey into the car to calm down, otherwise she may of hit out at someone, she has done this before!!! She suffers with ADD and serious conduct disorder and DOES know right from wrong, she just can't control her temper when she can not have her own way.

So as I said I try not to judge as I did before. If I actually saw a mum/dad/carer slap there child full in the face or something similar then YES there would be no stopping me.

excuse any spelling mistakes don't have time to check them out

[danae 0]

I can however tell you it gets the point across, much better than "johnny you can't do this because bla bla bla". Now having a 17 year old down to a 12 year old, I wish I could turn back time and not be their buddy but a parent who had disciplined them in a manner that they would not have forgotten.

Next time you run into some smart alec 16 year old on your shopping outting, ask him/her if they were spanked as a child. Likely not, mommy probably learned parenting from a book.

Well, like I've been told before when debating the to-spank or not-to-spank issue, different things work for different parents... I needed absolutely no hitting to know what was inappropriate...just a look or a few words told me...ruh roh! I'm in trouble!! And no, my mum didn't learn her parenting from a book.

So just because someone wasn't spanked as a child, doesn't mean they turn out to be the smart ####### kids and adults...

I cant ever recall my parents shouting at me, let alone spanking me. If I ever did anything inappropriate they acted more disappointed than cross. But even this was rare. We have always been very close, and have never once had an argument. (I have never heard them argue either)

Im glad I was never hit as a child- I imagine it would have made me a very different person today. And I certianly wont be spanking my own children- nor treating them roughly for falling asleep!!

[Lizzy 0]

I would of said something, i have a 4 year olf daughter, if she wants to fall asleep so what!!! its good for her and quiet time for me.

Poor little mite.....i would of said something when i was getting of the bus. Children can not look out for themselves.

[incanada1234 0]

Poor little mite.....i would of said something when i was getting of the bus. Children can not look out for themselves.

Yeah, I wish I would have said something to the little girl at least. Or as Stina&Suj said, something about how beautiful her children were. Just SOMEthing.

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

Poor little mite.....i would of said something when i was getting of the bus. Children can not look out for themselves.

Yeah, I wish I would have said something to the little girl at least. Or as Stina&Suj said, something about how beautiful her children were. Just SOMEthing.

next time, just remind her that her kids will choose her nursing home

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Poor little mite.....i would of said something when i was getting of the bus. Children can not look out for themselves.

Yeah, I wish I would have said something to the little girl at least. Or as Stina&Suj said, something about how beautiful her children were. Just SOMEthing.

next time, just remind her that her kids will choose her nursing home

That is a really good line!!

"Your kids will be picking your nursing home"

[incanada1234 0]

Ha! Love it!

Charles, you do manage to come up with something witty every now and then. (usually "then")