My fiancee is going to the airforce, what to do?

[freechoice 0]

Hi, i'm brazilian and i've been in the usa for 3 years. I've been with my fiancee for almost 2 years. He decided to go to the airforce, he already sent his application and he will be going on january 07. We are planning to get married before them. But i have questions about how to work my visa because i have a student visa right now. So what is the procedure, what should we do????

[dwar49 0]

Him being in the air force doesnt change how you file. Read the FAQs and guidelines to get yourself started.

The only time it would make any difference would be if he was posted in your home country. since he has a lot of training to do before he goes anywhere that wont be a factor.

If you are planning on getting married you need to read up on the K-3 visa board on how to file when you are here on another visa already. There are rules pertaining to that and I am not up on them all.

Just know that him being in the air force does not change the rules.

also with him just going in there will be certain things he will have to do, one being to get approval from the air force (his commanding officer) to marry a foriegn national. Depending on what work he will be doing it will effect his security clearance. some clearances will not be issued to people who are married to foriegn nationals.

[TracyTN 237]

But if she is already here on a student visa, it could be more complex than simply filing for a fiancee or spousal visa.

I would consult with an immigration attorney (the miltary should have one available at little to no cost) and make sure you do this right.

[mrc 0]

Hi, i'm brazilian and i've been in the usa for 3 years. I've been with my fiancee for almost 2 years. He decided to go to the airforce, he already sent his application and he will be going on january 07. We are planning to get married before them. But i have questions about how to work my visa because i have a student visa right now. So what is the procedure, what should we do????

Well, I've been in the Air Force over 16 years now (I know, I look like a kid still). This could be a good thing as far as the processing of your paperwork is concerned. As a member of the Air Force, your husband would gain SOFA status if he is to be stationed at an overseas location. If you two are married, you would be able to join him with no problems. Likely, he would be stationed overseas for a couple of years...this would be plenty of time to adjudicate your visa petition. You would still be recognized as his dependent and you would have SOFA status at the overseas location, even if you don't have a visa to return to the U.S. Once your visa is approved, you would just go where he goes.

I have a friend that has been married to a Panamanian citizen for eight years. She went with him right after they got married to an overseas assignment and then this scenario played out for them. Her visa got approved, they went back to the U.S. and they are still married.

I hope this helps a little. Also, as his dependent, you will qualify for medical and other benefits. Plus, it should only help his I-134 as he'll have a military salary and would be able to qualify as making enough money to satisfy their monetary requirements.

Edited July 25, 2006 by mrc

[pink_cloud 0]

My husband is in the Air Force and has never heard of having to ask his commanding officer for permission to marry a foreign national. He asked a few of his colleagues and superiors and they have never heard of it either. Maybe that is only for very specific work types - it is certainly not a general rule.

I'd like to say having a spouse in the military speeds things up but it doesn't. This whole immigration process is basically just luck of the draw. You can marry your husband on a student visa and just apply for AOS afterwards - I have a friend doing this right now. Just don't expect to be able to exit the country and re-enter on your student visa after you have filed for AOS - you will need Advanced Parole like the rest of us :-( You will still benefit from all the perks of the military when you marry even if you are not a permanent resident (healthcare, military ID, military discounts). You can also travel outside of the US provided you are taking military transportation (I know a lot of people who have done this).

[freechoice 0]

I still a lot confused, because i mean should i marry him and still aply for a marriage visa or apply for a fiance visa like normal... or does all the documents and process is different? Does it change anything if we get married when he is in the airforce??

I just want to know which documents will i need, i the documents still the same as the fiancee or spouce ones or not, or is they are totally different!!

Thank you

[luvaLimey 0]

If you're already in the US, you don't need to apply for a fiance visa, since the purpose of that visa is to allow you to enter the country in order to marry and settle here.

You've already been in the US for 3 years on a student visa. I don't think that USCIS is going to suspect immigration fraud for you to adjust status after your marriage after being here for 3 years already.

Although you may want to consult an immigration attorney, if it were me, I'd go ahead and get married and then adjust your status.

[Kez/JWolf 6]

You dont need a K1 or a K3..... you need to file for AOS you will find all the information here http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...page=i130guide2

Take time to read it and then you will have a better idea of where you are going....

Kezzie

[sjoefl01 1]

You should marry soon and file to adjust status. He should not wait until he is in the Air Force.

Most people dont realize how much they give up when they join the military. There is a cost in personal freedom. You do nothing without the knowledge of your leaders. I personally know a man here that is being punished for marrying a foreigner without the blessing of his First Sergeant. They made him move into the barracks while his wife lives off base. This is punishment because he married secretly.

There is no particular problem with security clearances ( at least to secret )and being married to foreign nationals as long as you are honest and keep everybody posted.

Your husband has none of these requirements. He is not in the military. You should marry before he is sworn in.

As far as breaks for the military I think you are only responsible for 100% as opposed to the 125% poverty level guideline. That is about it. I am encouraging you to marry soon so that you can get adjusted while he is still available for the interview. If he is gone when the interview happens they will put the whole case on hold until he comes back. That is the break they think they are giving to you.

I completely disagree with the entire process for military men and women. We send them all over the world to fight for us and when they fall in love and want to marry some foreign person we treat them like their last name is Bin Ladin. I think the entire process should be trashed for members of armed services, and before you all ask. NO!!!! I am not in the service and never have been. I just think that these heros ought to have pretty much what they want.

My husband is in the Air Force and has never heard of having to ask his commanding officer for permission to marry a foreign national. He asked a few of his colleagues and superiors and they have never heard of it either. Maybe that is only for very specific work types - it is certainly not a general rule.

I'd like to say having a spouse in the military speeds things up but it doesn't. This whole immigration process is basically just luck of the draw. You can marry your husband on a student visa and just apply for AOS afterwards - I have a friend doing this right now. Just don't expect to be able to exit the country and re-enter on your student visa after you have filed for AOS - you will need Advanced Parole like the rest of us :-( You will still benefit from all the perks of the military when you marry even if you are not a permanent resident (healthcare, military ID, military discounts). You can also travel outside of the US provided you are taking military transportation (I know a lot of people who have done this).

[mrc 0]

You should marry soon and file to adjust status. He should not wait until he is in the Air Force.

Most people dont realize how much they give up when they join the military. There is a cost in personal freedom. You do nothing without the knowledge of your leaders. I personally know a man here that is being punished for marrying a foreigner without the blessing of his First Sergeant. They made him move into the barracks while his wife lives off base. This is punishment because he married secretly.

There is no particular problem with security clearances ( at least to secret )and being married to foreign nationals as long as you are honest and keep everybody posted.

Your husband has none of these requirements. He is not in the military. You should marry before he is sworn in.

As far as breaks for the military I think you are only responsible for 100% as opposed to the 125% poverty level guideline. That is about it. I am encouraging you to marry soon so that you can get adjusted while he is still available for the interview. If he is gone when the interview happens they will put the whole case on hold until he comes back. That is the break they think they are giving to you.

I completely disagree with the entire process for military men and women. We send them all over the world to fight for us and when they fall in love and want to marry some foreign person we treat them like their last name is Bin Ladin. I think the entire process should be trashed for members of armed services, and before you all ask. NO!!!! I am not in the service and never have been. I just think that these heros ought to have pretty much what they want.

My husband is in the Air Force and has never heard of having to ask his commanding officer for permission to marry a foreign national. He asked a few of his colleagues and superiors and they have never heard of it either. Maybe that is only for very specific work types - it is certainly not a general rule.

I'd like to say having a spouse in the military speeds things up but it doesn't. This whole immigration process is basically just luck of the draw. You can marry your husband on a student visa and just apply for AOS afterwards - I have a friend doing this right now. Just don't expect to be able to exit the country and re-enter on your student visa after you have filed for AOS - you will need Advanced Parole like the rest of us :-( You will still benefit from all the perks of the military when you marry even if you are not a permanent resident (healthcare, military ID, military discounts). You can also travel outside of the US provided you are taking military transportation (I know a lot of people who have done this).

It's not so much as you need permission. The Armed Services can't stop you from marrying. The problem lies with security issues. Marrying a foreign national could affect things like your clearance (especially those with Top Secret clearances). The DOD has invested thousands of dollars for an investigation (it cost 80K) for the initial processing of a TS clearance, so they don't want anything to jeopardize that. I have NEVER heard of anyone ever being denied the ability to get married.

There is a regulation (for every service) that outlines this process. In most cases, you don't have to do anything. But if you are stationed stateside and go to an overseas location to get married, there are some steps you must take to get married. Most of it is just procedure.

[sjoefl01 1]

From the web::

This doesn’t mean a couple with one foreign partner can’t get married or even live together. It only

means a stop at the unit’s Security Office is required prior to marriage/cohabitation. The couple

should be prepared to provide the names, addresses, citizenship and vocations of the intended spouse/

cohabitant and their immediate family members. The Security Office uses the information to request

authority for the couple to marry, or cohabitate, from the MAJCOM SSO.

Once the Security Office has all the requested information, authority is normally provided to the

requesting Security Office within a day or two.

After marriage/cohabitation, one last visit to the Security Office is required. This time to complete a

Single Agency Check (SAC) on the new spouse, or cohabitant, which is forwarded to the Defense

Security Service. Dependent upon the results of the SAC, favorable or not, will determine whether or

not the SCI indoctrinated person will remain eligible for access to SCI.

When making plans to get married (or live together) to a non-U.S. citizen, remember to notify the

Security Office first!

[Raqiwin 2]

You should marry soon and file to adjust status. He should not wait until he is in the Air Force.

Most people dont realize how much they give up when they join the military. There is a cost in personal freedom. You do nothing without the knowledge of your leaders. I personally know a man here that is being punished for marrying a foreigner without the blessing of his First Sergeant. They made him move into the barracks while his wife lives off base. This is punishment because he married secretly.

There is no particular problem with security clearances ( at least to secret )and being married to foreign nationals as long as you are honest and keep everybody posted.

Your husband has none of these requirements. He is not in the military. You should marry before he is sworn in.

As far as breaks for the military I think you are only responsible for 100% as opposed to the 125% poverty level guideline. That is about it. I am encouraging you to marry soon so that you can get adjusted while he is still available for the interview. If he is gone when the interview happens they will put the whole case on hold until he comes back. That is the break they think they are giving to you.

I completely disagree with the entire process for military men and women. We send them all over the world to fight for us and when they fall in love and want to marry some foreign person we treat them like their last name is Bin Ladin. I think the entire process should be trashed for members of armed services, and before you all ask. NO!!!! I am not in the service and never have been. I just think that these heros ought to have pretty much what they want.

My husband is in the Air Force and has never heard of having to ask his commanding officer for permission to marry a foreign national. He asked a few of his colleagues and superiors and they have never heard of it either. Maybe that is only for very specific work types - it is certainly not a general rule.

I'd like to say having a spouse in the military speeds things up but it doesn't. This whole immigration process is basically just luck of the draw. You can marry your husband on a student visa and just apply for AOS afterwards - I have a friend doing this right now. Just don't expect to be able to exit the country and re-enter on your student visa after you have filed for AOS - you will need Advanced Parole like the rest of us :-( You will still benefit from all the perks of the military when you marry even if you are not a permanent resident (healthcare, military ID, military discounts). You can also travel outside of the US provided you are taking military transportation (I know a lot of people who have done this).

I'm in the Air Force with a TS and I also haven't heard about asking permission to marry a foreign national. There are even a handful of folks in my unit that have foreign spouses or fiancees themselves! From what I've gathered so far in this thread is that different services will typically have different procedures. I agree in that there aren't many benefits to filing anything with USCIS other than when it comes to your Affidavit of Suuport. Namely, when you go for your AOS and use the I-864, yea, the 100% guideline is beneficial as opposed to the 125% guideline.

Until he joins the AF, you shouldn't have to worry about any perks associated with it and so just go on as though it wasn't an issue. Once he does make his first step into Uncle Sam's turf, keep in mind that his training will take 6 weeks for basic training and depending on his chosen AFSC (job he will be doing), it could be an additional few weeks to few months! Some may take even a year of training. So be aware of everything he will be doing if he does get into the AF. But rather than worry about military stuff, again, I agree with the others in this thread.....marry before he goes in. Then adjust your status. Good luck to ya!

[LoveLove 0]

my husband joined the navy after we got married.

there's certain jobs he couldn't get even though he was qulified for(which were most of good jobs) because I'm not USC.

however we got married before he joined the military so I don't know about getting married to non-usc when you're in service.

I heard a lot of people had to change jobs when they get married to non-usc..becuase of security clearance