co sponsorship is not ok

[changkaichick 0]

i had my interview this morning and

it was a nightmare. my fiance is currently working in a food place

and asked his sister to co sponsor this k1 visa.

i thought everything will be alright until the

co asked about his income. i told the co that i will work when

i get there. and he told me that i wll become a public charge

because my fiance cannot support me. and he asked me also

if my fiance is supporting me or maybe he mean if my fiance is sending me money.

i asked him if its always a big deal that a guy send money to his girl. the co told me that it would be

a plus factor because that means that he can support me no matter

what. so i told him that if a guy can not send money to his girl

would that be a visa denial?. he never answered that question. he

just told me that they are just preventing those immigrant to come

to the us as public charge. i asked him also if his sisters income would be

enough. and he told me that my fiance was the one who petitioned me over

so my fiance should be the one who take responsibility for me. he told me

if i can go back to present a good income from my fiance maybe

they will think about it. so after the interview i called my fiance

and i was crying. though the co didnt tell me if im approve or denied but he asked me

to present his latest payslip and my fiance should know from the

start what is the poverty line for applying the visa. i feel so hopeless

when my fiance told me that he cant find a decent job as of now.

i really dont know what to do. should i just wait that something will

happen miraculously? is it really a plus factor that guy send money

to his girlfriend? is it fair that they did something like that? i felt

the co underestimate my fiance. and also i got mad to think that

if the guy is much older and the girl is too young they wouldnt care

how young the girl is as long as the guy can support her so they will approve

the petition and no question. and because me and my fiance are both young.

it is not really fair. i feel sad now. pls help me to cheer up. (

[brij 0]

i had my interview this morning and

it was a nightmare. my fiance is currently working in a food place

and asked his sister to co sponsor this k1 visa.

i thought everything will be alright until the

co asked about his income. i told the co that i will work when

i get there. and he told me that i wll become a public charge

because my fiance cannot support me. and he asked me also

if my fiance is supporting me or maybe he mean if my fiance is sending me money.

i asked him if its always a big deal that a guy send money to his girl. the co told me that it would be

a plus factor because that means that he can support me no matter

what. so i told him that if a guy can not send money to his girl

would that be a visa denial?. he never answered that question. he

just told me that they are just preventing those immigrant to come

to the us as public charge. i asked him also if his sisters income would be

enough. and he told me that my fiance was the one who petitioned me over

so my fiance should be the one who take responsibility for me. he told me

if i can go back to present a good income from my fiance maybe

they will think about it. so after the interview i called my fiance

and i was crying. though the co didnt tell me if im approve or denied but he asked me

to present his latest payslip and my fiance should know from the

start what is the poverty line for applying the visa. i feel so hopeless

when my fiance told me that he cant find a decent job as of now.

i really dont know what to do. should i just wait that something will

happen miraculously? is it really a plus factor that guy send money

to his girlfriend? is it fair that they did something like that? i felt

the co underestimate my fiance. and also i got mad to think that

if the guy is much older and the girl is too young they wouldnt care

how young the girl is as long as the guy can support her so they will approve

the petition and no question. and because me and my fiance are both young.

it is not really fair. i feel sad now. pls help me to cheer up. (

Thanks for sharing your story. I am not actually in the position to brighten up your day coz I got a horrible one seriously. But, that sense about the financial capacity .. I guess it is not just the ONLY factor of being approved or denied. However,it's a major factor included in their standards i guess. But come to think of it, there's a good point there because it's true .. how can your fiance support you if he doesnt have a stable finances? Yes, you will work hard when u get there.. But of course your fiance needs to support you all the way when u get there. First, there's no guarantee you can get the job there that fast. What are your means then not to be a public charge? his sister? Well.. even if his sis is really kind.. CO's will not tolerate that. So, obviously the CO didnt react because he wants you to think more why it's not possible for him to say yes or no. Maybe he was thinking it's self explanatory. But who knows.. your fiance might get a great job and he can finally support you already.

[brij 0]

i had my interview this morning and

it was a nightmare. my fiance is currently working in a food place

and asked his sister to co sponsor this k1 visa.

i thought everything will be alright until the

co asked about his income. i told the co that i will work when

i get there. and he told me that i wll become a public charge

because my fiance cannot support me. and he asked me also

if my fiance is supporting me or maybe he mean if my fiance is sending me money.

i asked him if its always a big deal that a guy send money to his girl. the co told me that it would be

a plus factor because that means that he can support me no matter

what. so i told him that if a guy can not send money to his girl

would that be a visa denial?. he never answered that question. he

just told me that they are just preventing those immigrant to come

to the us as public charge. i asked him also if his sisters income would be

enough. and he told me that my fiance was the one who petitioned me over

so my fiance should be the one who take responsibility for me. he told me

if i can go back to present a good income from my fiance maybe

they will think about it. so after the interview i called my fiance

and i was crying. though the co didnt tell me if im approve or denied but he asked me

to present his latest payslip and my fiance should know from the

start what is the poverty line for applying the visa. i feel so hopeless

when my fiance told me that he cant find a decent job as of now.

i really dont know what to do. should i just wait that something will

happen miraculously? is it really a plus factor that guy send money

to his girlfriend? is it fair that they did something like that? i felt

the co underestimate my fiance. and also i got mad to think that

if the guy is much older and the girl is too young they wouldnt care

how young the girl is as long as the guy can support her so they will approve

the petition and no question. and because me and my fiance are both young.

it is not really fair. i feel sad now. pls help me to cheer up. (

so you weren't denied nor approved? what did you receive then? Is your case put in Administrative Review or processing as well?

[The_Sage1 2]

Does your fiance work full or part time? It probably would have helped if he did work full time if that's the case.

The USEM in Manila needs to make up their mind and stop deceiving people about co-sponsors. They sent out a letter stating that they accept co-sponsors on a case by case basis. So why they are telling people they don't accept them at all is beyond me.

[tallcoolone 102]

and also i got mad to think that

if the guy is much older and the girl is too young they wouldnt care

how young the girl is as long as the guy can support her so they will approve

the petition and no question.

That's Why I choose the Philippines

[The_Sage1 2]

I wrote my state senator about this issue of co-sponsorship. I just can't sit by and watch the consulates deceive people like this and do nothing. They say they accept co-sponsorship, and turn their backs at the interview and deny it.

[john_and_marlene 162]

I wrote my state senator about this issue of co-sponsorship. I just can't sit by and watch the consulates deceive people like this and do nothing. They say they accept co-sponsorship, and turn their backs at the interview and deny it.

When did the consulate in Manila ever say they accept cosponsors for K visas? Their official policy is that they do not. There are several members here on VJ to continue to insist that they do and continue to advise others that it is not a problem. For K visas, there is no specific income level required by statute. The CO has to decide the liklihood that the beneficiary will become a public charge. They have several tools to help them make that determination including tax returns, bank letters, employment letters, I-134. Any claim by a third party that they will help support the beneficiary is not legally binding based on an I-134 and the CO may or may not entertain the idea that others will actually provide support in the future. This sponsorship issue is often taken far too lightly--cosponsorship is more than a signature on a piece of paper. Do you truly believe that most cosponsors who sign an I-134 would actually provide money to support the beneficiary if asked? The I-134 is not legally binding and with increasing frequency more COs are either giving such a claim of support very little or no weight.

For those that believe they had a cosponsor accepted in Manila, they may have had a cosponsor I-134 and it may have even been given a little weight, but in the end, it is the determination by the CO regarding the liklihood that the beneficiary will actually not become a public charge and not any combined income levels on an I-134 that will make that determination.

If you feel deceived, it may be by those wrongly suggesting that the consulate in Manila accepts cosponsors. If you call the consulate directly they will tell you that they do not.

[The_Sage1 2]

Um, it's in a letter sent straight from the embassy themselves. It simply states that they accept co-sponsors on a case by case basis. In other words, they may or may not accept one...and it's up to the consulate to decide.

Saying they do OR do not accept co-sponsors is incorrect. It's up to the consulate to decide.

[john_and_marlene 162]

Um, it's in a letter sent straight from the embassy themselves. It simply states that they accept co-sponsors on a case by case basis. In other words, they may or may not accept one...and it's up to the consulate to decide.

Saying they do OR do not accept co-sponsors is incorrect. It's up to the consulate to decide.

And, now you feel deceived, because on a case by case basis you were denied?

[The_Sage1 2]

My fiance hasn't had her interview yet, but I am planning on using a co-sponsor. That's not the point. The point is that they are telling people they accept co-sponsors on a case by case basis, and then telling all the benificiaries being interviewed that they don't accept co-sponsors. That's called lying.

[George&Hazel 1]

I realize it is not in the cards for everyone, but why not go marriage route if there is an issue? This is what? The 2nd one of these in just a few days?

[Mr.&Mrs.A 0]

I have an E-mail directly from the US Embassy Manila stating their guidelines on "Co-Sponsors" I contacted them awhile back regarding this issue and one of the Consulates their responed to me. I will be glad to provide this e-mail to anyone that would like to read it.

As to the OP, tell your fiance to get a second job doing "anything" so he can provide an employment letter from each job totaling the necessary amount needed to pass. If it's just the 2 of you then his income only has to be around $18,200. he should be able to do this

The truth is a family of 2 in the USA only bringing in $18,200 per year is starving to death, so the guidelines are pretty easy to meet.

[annaprice 17]

My fiance hasn't had her interview yet, but I am planning on using a co-sponsor. That's not the point. The point is that they are telling people they accept co-sponsors on a case by case basis, and then telling all the benificiaries being interviewed that they don't accept co-sponsors. That's called lying.

thats why they say its a case to case basis. Its still up to them if they would accept or not.

[Otto 83]

Here is the letter/memo from USEM in regards to co-sponsorship. They do accept them - they just may not accept all of them.

LINK

[john_and_marlene 162]

Here is the letter/memo from USEM in regards to co-sponsorship. They do accept them - they just may not accept all of them.

LINK

Just as I suspected, I see nothing in that letter that says they accept cosponsors. I clearly states that they look at the totality of circumstances regarding the liklihood that the beneficiary will be provided for and that they can't put any weight to the I-134 as it is not binding. However, if they feel that there are others that they determine will truly respond to the financial needs of the beneficiary they can (but don't have to) take that into account.